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Garth Huber, 01/23/2025 06:22 PM

 
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                Jan 23/25 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
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                                (Notes by GH)
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                     Today: PionLT will be discussed first
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Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Nathan Heinrich, Vijay Kumar, Alicia Postuma,
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   Muhammad Junaid, Ali Usman, Nacer Hamdi
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JLab - Dave Gaskell
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Virginia - Richard Trotta
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CUA - Tanja Horn
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Ohio - Julie Roche
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FIU - Pete Markowitz
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CSULA - Konrad Aniol
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Nathan
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PionLT Lumi Studies
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- implemented Dave Mack's rate-dependent ELLT calculation
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  - ELLT from individual hodo plane gate widths (50ns) and rates
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  - implemented in Richard's scaler function for current cuts
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    - it's not used for current cuts, but this allows beam-off periods to be
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      removed from the rate calculation, tested and the beam-off removal only
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      affected the 5th decimal place
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  - can easily put the new ELLT calculation in the report file
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  - Ali offers to help Nathan w/ report files
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- calculated a few runs "by hand" to check
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  - Dave Mack's algorithm gets 12.3% for a high rate SHMS run but simple calc
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    gave 10.1% (3/4 rate=1.3MHz, S1X rate=3.4 MHz)
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  - will implement this ELLT calculation instead of simple calc and check if
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    get same LH2 boiling corr for HMS/SHMS scaler Lumi analysis
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    - simple calc resulted in too much scatter in SHMS at high rate to be
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      useful, could only get boiling from lower rate HMS data
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- before implementing DM ELLT calc, had applied rate-dependent correction
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  reported earlier to Tracked Singles Lumi data and found consistent
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  anti-boiling, so clearly the old ELLT and rate-dep correction is not the
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  right way to go
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Next steps:
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- *NB* will cross-check CPULT*ELLT=EDTM for runs where both quantities are
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  reliable
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- *NB* will also determine a new boiling corr and apply to COIN Lumi data
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Conclusion:
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- still lots of checks to do, but we're clearly moving forward
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  - optimistic that everything can be wrapped up before departure for WNPPC in
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    Banff on Feb 13
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Junaid
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Just returned from family trip to Pakistan, getting back to research now
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- while away, there has been some further optimization of HMS Matrix Elements
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  - will implmement, replay Heep and check
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  - after that, will start setting up for Pass-2 replay and Yield calclations
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Vijay
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Q2=0.425 data analysis
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- showed CoinTime plots from recent replay
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- offsets were wrong for certain runs, fixed now
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  - low epsilon, Center,Left1,Left2
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  - mid epsilon, Center,Left1,Left2
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  - high epsilon 5 settings still being replayed
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Next Steps:
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- still checking other cuts
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- *NB* still need to check that efficiencies, etc. are sensible for Q2=0.425
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  runs (i.e. checking for bad runs)
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Richard
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KaonLT L/T-separations
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- last week reported on Q2=3.0, W=2.32 setting, which needed a lot of iteration
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  work
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- after discussing further with Tanja, decided instead to look more closely at
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  Q2=3.0, W=3.14 and Q2=4.4 settings, in particular the Q2-dependence
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  - ratios for these settings not there yet
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  - Q2-dep seems to be an issue for high Q2 settings
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  - expecting to revise Q2-dep for LT,TT
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- later, will return to lower W settings, these will probably need extensive
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  changes to model
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Nacer
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KaonLT Low Q2 Yields
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- carefully goes through normalized yield calculation for one setting (low
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  epsilon, central SHMS)
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  - generally things look sensible, except for the SIMS normalized yield, which
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    seems exceptionally high (about 10^6 too high)
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- Discussion on what might be wrong with SIMC normalization
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  1) check if SIMC weights are correctly applied
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    - root tree is structured slightly differently between Heep and Physics runs
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     (more variables), maybe the wrong leaf was selected by mistake?
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  2) check if SIMC yield and Exp data are both normalized to 1 mC
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    - maybe a sign is missing on an exponent 10+3 instead of 10-3?
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  3) check what model SIMC is using
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    - Dave says default K+ model is still from Koltenuk's thesis (resonance
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      region)
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    - Garth used Tanja's parameterization for KaonLT run plan yields
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      sig_factorized2007, will send it to Dave for including in master branch
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    - *NB* Garth still has SIMC ntuples used for KaonLT run plan and compare
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       with Nacer's
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- MMk plots look very nice after cuts and dummy target subtraction
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  - pion leakthrough subtraction underneath Lambda and Sigma peaks look pretty
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    good
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  - possibly there are some negative counts to the right of the Sigma peak
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    (~1.22 GeV), could be a binning issue, need to check if it occurs
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    consistently for other settings
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  - 50 MeV shift between Data and MC was found and fixed
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    - recon.hcana was using mpi instead of mK
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    - there remains a small ~3 MeV shift between data and MC, which is applied
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      to the data so the Lambda peaks line up
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Alicia
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SHMS proton absorption Geant4 calculation
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- made some progress
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  - S2Y density had a typo and Geant4 had defaulted to zero density
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  - now get non-zero energy deposit for Cherenkov process in quartz bars
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Discussion of BSA paper referee comments
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- 4th referee seems to come from high energy physics, was clearly confused with
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  some issues dealing with small acceptance spectrometers that we should
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  address so that the paper appeals to a broader audience
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  - it would be helpful if we could refer to the SHMS NIM paper for some
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    details.  New DOE secretary has imposed a temporary embargo on any new DOE
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    publications, reports, or presentations, so the NIM paper can't be released
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    until the embargo is dropped (hopefully soon)
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  - in the meantime, Vijay suggests we could refer to the Hall C equipment manual
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- Alicia will implement our suggestions and have a second round of discussion
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  on the paper next week
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Next Meeting
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- Thur Jan 30 @ 15:30 Eastern/14:30 Regina
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  - KaonLT will go first
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