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Garth Huber, 02/13/2025 05:33 PM

 
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                 Feb 13/25 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
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                                (Notes by GH)
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                     Today: KaonLT will be discussed first
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Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Ali Usman, Muhammad Junaid, Vijay Kumar, Nacer Hamdi
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JLab - Dave Gaskell
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Ohio - Julie Roche
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CUA - Tanja Horn
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Virginia - Richard Trotta
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FIU - Pete Markowitz
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Vijay
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Continuing to set up Q2=0.425 PionLT analysis
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- shows diamond cut, center SHMS setting data shown
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- diamond vertices selected using a Python script similar to Jacob's script
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- the diamond seems a bit tight in comparison to low epsilon data, will adjust
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  the vertices a bit by hand to optimize
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  - also will confirm the cut is good for L1,L2,R1,R2 SHMS settings, the idea
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    is to use a single diamond cut for all 5 settings, so if the diamond is
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    shifted slightly for some settings, then the diamond needs to be made a bit
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    smaller in the direction away from the shift
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- will look at t-binning after diamond cut finalized
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  - -t_min is slightly higher than Q2=0.375 so bins will require some
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    adjustment
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  - had 8 t-bins for Q2=0.375, but L/T-sep failed for 8th bin due to poorer
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    statistics
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  - considering to have 7 t-bins for Q2=0.425, with 7th bin wider
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  - hopefully we will have some plots on t-binning at next meeting
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- last step will be to calculate experimental normalized yields
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- running SIMC simulations for Q2=0.425
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Richard
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Q2=4.4 W=2.74 KaonLT analysis
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- looked into different forms of Wfac:
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  - simple version:   Wfac=1/(W^2-M^2)**2
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  - more complicated: Wfac=1/(W^2-M^2)**(0.85*W^2-5.97*W+12.68)
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    this more complicated version is from a few months ago, where the
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    polynomial coefs came from a fit to all setting data
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  - in the polynomial, the <W> value for each t-bin was used
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  - GH: the purpose of Wfac is to flatten some of the variation of yield across
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    an individual diamond
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    - (W^2-M^2) needs to use <W> per t-bin, but the exponent really shouldn't
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      need to vary that rapidly
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    - suggest to compute the exponent using the W-central for each setting and
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      use that instead of the polynomial
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    - Richard agrees that using the full polynomial complicated the fitting,
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      will look into this
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  - Data/MC Ratios with simple Wfac: R=0.2-0.4 after 5 iterations
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    - with complicated Wfac: R=1-2 after 2 iterations
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Next step:
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- wants to see what different Wfac choices look like at other Q2
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  - hope to have 3 settings to compare next wek
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Ali
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- nearly done thesis writing, the plan is to get back to piDelta BSA
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  systematics and other missing parts of analysis while the thesis is being
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  reviewed by committee and external examiner
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Nacer
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Continuing to set up Low Q2 KaonLT analysis
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- looking closely at 4.9 GeV beam energy data, cut studies so far looked mostly
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  at 3.8 GeV data
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- shows plot of RFtime vs MMk
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  - also computing efficiency of RFcut as a diagnostic
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  - the RFcut appears to need adjustment, particularly at 4.9 GeV
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  - Junaid: suggests to compare 1D plots of RFtime at both energies
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    - the hcana RFtime offsets can be different between the two beam energies,
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      the 4.9 GeV offset should be checked
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    - also the width of the RFtime distribution can be slightly different
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      between the two beam energies
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  - Garth: the cut appears to be too tight for RFtime~0.2, some clear Lambdas
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    are being eliminated on this side, while the cut is too loose on the other
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    side RFtime~2, where lots of pion leakthrough is evident
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    - for the RFtime~0.2 cut, it is clearly too tight at both 3.8, 4.9 GeV,
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      while on the other side it seems only to need adjustment at 4.9 GeV
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    - Nacer will review cuts and calculate new cut efficiencies, with the
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      greater statistics compared to previous plots it is clear things need
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      further optimization
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  - Ali: when optimizing the RFcut, it's important to minize systematic
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    uncertainties
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    - if the RFcut is too tight, the cut efficiency will be lower, leads to a
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      larger systematic uncertainty
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    - if the RFcut is too loose, the pion leakthrough subtraction will be
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      larger, leading also to a larger systematic
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    - there is an optimal RFcut which balances the two systematics
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- shows CoinTime plots for both 3.8, 4.9 GeV
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  - cointime peaks line up very similarly for both energies, cut looks good
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- HMS Cherenkov cuts at both energies checked as well
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Next step (after adjusting RFcut):
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- need to make diamond cut on low epsilon, center SHMS data
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  - then confirm the cut is okay on Left, Right SHMS settings
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Junaid
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PionLT HMS optics matrix elements
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- implemented 5.8, 6.1, 6.7 GeV/c matrix elements from NPS analysis
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- expecting to receive new 5.6 GeV/c matrix elements soon
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- HMS theta, phi offsets
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  - using offsets from NPS analyis for 5.8, 6.1, 6.7 GeV/c
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  - for unsaturated region <5.5 GeV/c, using phi=0
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    - emailed Mark Jones re. what offsets to use, no reply yet
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    - Dave: agrees this zero offset seems strange, also contacted Mark about it
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      as needed also for SIDIS analysis, hopefully one of us gets a reply soon
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- Heep offsets with new HMS matrix elements
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  - Garth is running new Heep In-Plane offsets, job still running, should be
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    done soon
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    - will give global offsets using all 9 Heep settings
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    - can also make offsets for subsets of Heep settings if needed
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  - shows new OOP offsets compared to analysis with old matrix elements
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    - SHMS: -0.05 -> -0.155 mr  a slight change for SHMS
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    - HMS: +1.875 -> +1.90 mr   change is very small for HMS
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  - compare to KaonLT OOP offsets determined by GH
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    - SHMS: -0.11 mr   HMS: +2.51 mr
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    - good news that the SHMS offsets are more similar now, not sure why the
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      HMS offsets are so different
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    - one possibility is that the PMY data errors are treated differently
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      between Junaid and GH, Junaid is using actual errors (which is better),
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      while GH used estimated errors (based on scatter of data)
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      - GH errors could be off, but plots are visually similar
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      - KaonLT offsets also use old ME, but the HMS difference seems to be
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        stable against the optics change
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    - Junaid will compute errors in the new OOP offsets, which will indicate by
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      how many sigma the PionLT and KaonLT offsets differ
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- setting up for Pass-2 replay
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  - implemented Nathan's LH2 boiling correction
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  - still implementing new ELLT calculation in report files
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Next steps:
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- updated HeepCoin Data/MC ratios, including hopefully also Alicia's proton
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  absorption correction
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- Pass-2 full replays
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Garth
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- Richard, Nacer, GH met with Ioana and Gabi to give them an update on the
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  status of the KaonLT analysis, where to find Richard's replay data and
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  scripts
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- Nacer is at an early stage of L/T-sep analysis, so they can learn a lot from
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  each other as they progress
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- they won't be able to attend our Thursday meetings until classes end in ~2
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  months, can receive questions by email or other dedicated meeting in the
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  meantime
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Next Meeting
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- Thur Feb 20 @ 15:30 Eastern/14:30 Regina
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  - PionLT will go first
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