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Garth Huber, 02/27/2025 05:40 PM

 
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                 Feb 27/25 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
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                                (Notes by GH)
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                     Today: KaonLT will be discussed first
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Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Ali Usman, Alicia Postuma, Muhammad Junaid,
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   Nathan Heinrich, Nacer Hamdi
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FIU - Pete Markowitz
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Ohio - Julie Roche
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Virginia - Richard Trotta
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JLab - Dave Gaskell
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Alicia
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pi+n BSA revisions
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- please send your comments ASAP!
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- comments received so far from Dave Mack and Vijay
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- minor changes will be made to one figure and the text
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Simonetta Liutti comtacted GH that she is starting to work on pion GPDs and
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requests data
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- Alicia is helping put together a spreadsheet of sig0,L,T,LT,TT,LT' cross
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  sections for exclusive pi+,pi-,pi0,K+ reactions
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- Julie also received a request for pi0 data, will coordinate with Alicia
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- Simonetta also requested exclusive eta data
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  - Pete will make some inquiries regarding the CLAS eta data tables
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Vijay
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Unfortunately, I cannot make the meeting today. I'm changing my apartment and
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fully busy. However, I've decided to report my update through email.
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1) I've implemented the new diamond cuts in the analysis that determined for
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   the Q^2 =0.42 GeV^2.
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2) I've started the changing t binning for the analysis. It's a critical to
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   have similar statistics (including all settings) in all t bins.
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3) I want to check the ftave equation in the SigT cross-section for this
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   analysis.
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Hopefully, I'll have some plot from data and MC comparisons in the next
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meeting.
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Richard
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KaonLT High Q2 L/T-separations
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- Q2=4.4 after 10 iterations using same parameterization as last week
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  - highest -t bin has oscillations in R=Data/MC but lowest -t bin looks flatter
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    - GH: this indicates the parameterized t-dependence is probably different
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      than the data at high -t
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  - noted for some time that sigT is strongly negative for lowest -t bin
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    - this has been traced to a single phi bin with tiny errors
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    - if this point is removed, sigT is not so negative
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    - will do some investigation of this point, maybe there's some pion
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      contamination sneaking in that is driving the errors
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- Q2=5.5 after 10 iterations, same parameterization
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  - high epsilon has large R=Data/MC while small epsilon has small R
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  - similar issue with negative sigT in lowest -t bin, will check contamination
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    here as well
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- Pete: Q2=4.4, 5.5 both have nearly zero sigL,T for -t~0.75, is the cross
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  section really nearly zero there, seems puzzling that the cross section is so
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  small there
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  - Richard: not sure yet that's so believable.  Notice also that LT,TT are
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    fairly large for these bins
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Junaid
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PionLT Heep analysis
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- GH followed Dave's idea from last week and made two new sets of offsets
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  1) global fit of 9 settings from 5.5-9.9 GeV beam energy:
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     dthe  0.7000   dpe  1.0000   dthp  1.8000   dpp -0.8500
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     dE: -0.3000 -0.2000 -0.2000 -0.2000 -0.3778 -0.1556 -0.6000 -0.4889  0.4000
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  2) fit of just 10.6 GeV setting, where the HMS and SHMS angle offsets are
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     taken from (1) and only new momentum and beam offsets are fit:
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     dthe  1.5000   dpe -3.2000   dthp  1.4000   dpp  1.7000   dE -1.0000
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     units are 0.1% for momenta/energy, 1 mrad for angles
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- Heep distribution Data:MC comparo using these offsets
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  - 5.5-9.9 GeV:  PMx,PMy,W distributions overlap better
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    - PMz,EM not so much improved in comparison to "no offset"
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  - 10.6 GeV: PMz,E agreement is better than offsets used last week from
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    5.5-10.6 global fit
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- Junaid takes the pSHMS offset from the 10.6 fit and apply it also to 5.5-9.9
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  GeV, keeping all of the other offsets the same
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  - i.e. only pHMS will be different between 10.6 and the other beam energies
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    (presumably due to effect of saturation at HMS=5.8 GeV/c) all other
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    HMS,SHMS offsets the same.  The beam energy offsets remain different for
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    every energy.
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  - the agreement for PMz,EM is improved for all 5.5-9.9 GeV settings
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  - then does an investigation of global pSHMS offsets from +1.0 to +5.0, finds
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    that pSHMS offset of +4.5x0.1% gives noticeably better agreement for PMz,EM
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    everywhere
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    - the agreement between Data and MC distributions is now quite good
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  - Dave: puzzling that the Heepcheck analysis didn't give the correct pSHMS offset
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    - Garth: the offset fitting program predicts data-MC residuals for the
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      obtained offsets
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      - the observed residuals are much worse than predicted, particularly for
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        PMz,EM
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      - only reason can think of is that the Heepcheck program uses only the
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        centroids in its analysis, not the full data distribution
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      - looked over the Heepcheck program, everything looks correct in its
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        evaluation of the kinematic derivatives
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- Junaid will apply these offsets to the physics data
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  - will need to recheck the 10.6 setting after new HMS delta offset for 5.8
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    GeV/c setting is received, but hopefully that effect is small
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Nathan
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- no report, has been sick most of the week
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Nacer
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KaonLT Q2=0.5 analysis
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- new diamond cut, checking vs data for all SHMS settings at low and high
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  epsilon
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  - trying to find a cut that works for both Lambda and Sigma final states
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  - plot W-Q2 after all cuts, including MM, dummy subtraction, etc
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- cut looks very nice, will move next to t-binning
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  - for Lambda, will try 12 phi-bins, 6 t-bins
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  - Richard: tried to have >1000 events/t-bin, summed over both SHMS settings
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    at low epsilon, statistics were higher at high epsilon
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  - Ali: Sigma stats are much lower than Lambda, you will need fewer t-bins for
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    Sigma
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Next Meeting
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- Thur Mar 6 @ 15:30 Eastern/14:30 Regina
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  - PionLT will go first
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- NOTE: on Mar 9 USA moves to DST, so we will need to move to 16:30
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  Eastern/14:30 Regina for the period March 13-April 10
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  - after that, we can return to 15:30 Eastern for the convenience of our USA
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