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Garth Huber, 04/11/2025 03:48 PM

 
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                 Apr 10/25 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
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                                (Notes by GH)
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                     Today: KaonLT will be discussed first
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Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Nacer Hamdi, Alicia Postuma, Muhammad Junaid,
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   Nathan Heinrich, Vijay Kumar, Ali Usman
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JLab - Dave Gaskell
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Virginia - Richard Trotta
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FIU - Pete Markowitz
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CUA - Tanja Horn
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Ali
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pi+Delta0 BSA t-phi binning
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- revised binning for Q2=3.0, W=3.14 high statistics setting
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  - change from 2 to 3 t-bins, upper limit of good range remains 0.70
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  - bin limits: 0-0.33, 0.33-0.42, 0.42-0.70
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  - excluded region: 0.70-1.10
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- check phi coerage for these bins
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  - MM plots for each t-phi bin L,C,R SHMS settings look promising
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- Q2-3.0, W-2.32 setting
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  - change from 1 to 2 t-bins, upper limit remains 0.90
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  - bin limits: 0-0.6, 0.6-0.9
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  - excluded region: 0.9-1.10
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  - MM plots for each t-phi bin will have some challenges but Ali is confident
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  - definitely a drop in statistics from 1 bin, but good phi coverage
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- Nacer asks some questions about how the background near the Delta peak is
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  handled
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  - full MM region histo including pi+n peak is used for Background fit
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    - pi+n MC is fit to neutron peak
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    - SIDIS MC is fit to high MM region
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  - after the Bkd is fit, use zoomed in MM region for piDelta MC fit
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  - piDelta MC peak shape is compared to data after Bkd subtraction for
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    consistency
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- 2 higher Q2 settings will not be rebinned due to low statistics
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- Ali hopes to show Bkd subtracted fits for all 3 revised settings next week
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- while fitting MCs to data, will do some systematics checks in parallel (fit
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  dependence)
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Richard
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KaonLT high Q2 LT-separations
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- Q2=3.0, W=2.32 (same setting as Ali just showed, but K+ instead of pi+)
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  - had some difficulty getting 0th iteration to work for this setting
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  - ended up trying Q2=4.4 functional form instead of Q2=3.0, W=3.14 form and
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    it seems to work a bit better, now getting iterations to converge
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  - result is a huge difference in R=Data/MC ratio between high and low epsilon
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  - low epsilon R about 1 for t=0.40-0.75 bin
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  - high epsilkon R about 2 for same bin
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  - large change in ratio seems to be due to large change in SIMC yields
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    between high and low epsilon, while data yields are more consistent
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  - this seems to imply a significant change in L/T ratio between this setting
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    and Q2=4.4
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Vijay
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PionLT Q2=0.425 LT-separations
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- updated last t-bin edge to 0.60 from higher value discussed last week
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  - revised t-phi plots shown for low, mid, high epsilon
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- working on MM offset for all settings, i.e. match pi+n peak of data to MC
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  - old analysis script is breaking, it did too many tasks at once
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  - new script will be simpler
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  - plans to show MM plots next week
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Nacer
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KaonLT Q2=0.50 LT-separations
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- working on extracting yields per t-phi bin for Data and MC
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  - scripts are done, checked on some data runs
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- checking error propagation of ROOT
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  - confirmed that ROOT is propagating the statistical errors of the data
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    correctly, but it appears ROOT has some issues when the normalization
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    itself has an uncertainty
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    - i.e. Y=Counts/Qeff, the uncertainty in Qeff is not propagated correctly
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  - adding this uncertainty "by hand" in the code, code is checked and should
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    be correct now
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- will meet with Richard this week on updating weights each iteration w/o
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  rerunning SIMC
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Alicia
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Missing tracks Geant4 simulation
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- finished 1st draft of TechNote and got code running on the group's server
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  (lark), that part is relevant for improving the transportability of the code
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  with slightly different G4 versions
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- the TechNote will be sent shortly to Regina group and Richard, who should
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  check if the note provides good instructions for calculating the correction
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  for different analyses and that the code works correctly for them
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- started calculating missing tracks correction for KaonLT u-channel
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  p(e,e'p)omega data
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- still no update on BSA paper from PLB, hopefully soon
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Nathan
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Lumi study coincidence blocking correction
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- Dave will try to look at Nathan's CoinTime plots this weekend and get back to
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  him on this
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Junaid
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PionLT Q2=3.85, W=2.62 LT-separations
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- will change from 7 to 5 t-bins, as we discused last week and then calculate
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  yields
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  - yield calculation is different than Nacer's
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  - Junaid's version uses separate scripts for each part, while Nacer's is a
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    big all-in-one code (see Vijay's experience above)
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Next Meeting
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- Thur Apr 17 @ 15:30 Eastern/13:30 Regina
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  - PionLT will go first
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  ** NOTE THE NEW TIME **
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