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Sep 12/25 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
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(Notes by GH)
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Today: KaonLT will be discussed first
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Please remember to post your slides at:
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https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Kaon_LT_Meetings
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Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Nathan Heinrich, Nacer Hamdi, Muhammad Junaid,
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Alicia Postuma, Nermin Sadoun
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FIU - Pete Markowitz
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CUA - Tanja Horn, Chi Kin Tam, BC Munoz, Sameer Jain
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York - Stephen Kay
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Ohio - Julie Roche
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JMU - Ioana Niculescu
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JLab - Dave Gaskell
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Nacer
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KaonLT Q2=0.5 LT-separations
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- replicated sig_factorized_2007 model in physics_iterate.f
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- this model uses different cross-section units than the usual
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d2sigma/dt-dphi so a different Jacobian was needed
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- will use sig_factorized_2007 model for first iterations, which are still in
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progress
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pi+n BSA paper modifications
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- completed radiative correction systematic requested by referee
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- Asymmetries for radcor=ON/OFF are nearly identical
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- max discrepancy is 0.002 (or 0.35% of Asymmetry) for Q2=3.0, W=3.14
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- still running other settings, max discrepancy so far is 0.003 or 0.6% of
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Asymmetry
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- received reconstructed VR Regge model from CKY, now all models in Fig 6 use
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exact kinematics as data
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- this gives much better agreement with data at low -t
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- VR model is now also included in Fig 7
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- VR model gives good agreement with data
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- now both Regge-based models agree better with data than GPD model, which
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also addresses a question by referees
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- will try to smooth the theory curves in Fig 6, probably kinks are due to
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varying kinematics of data, the kinks are most noticeable in GPD model
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- planning to circulate both modified paper and referee comments early next
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KaonLT Lambda/Sigma/Lambda* ratios
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- looking at KaonLT Heepcheck analysis
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- having difficulty locating the offsets Richard used, found some
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discrepancies among GitHub files
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- *NB* both Alicia and Chi Kin will send what they're using
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KaonLT high Q2 analysis
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- lots of broken files in cache, replayed all 10 settings in Q2=3.0 W=3.14 and
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- for runs which were good before, the new file size is somewhat larger than
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Richard's (e.g. Run 5013: new=847MB old=713MB)
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- Ioana: also noticed some missing files in cache
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- Stephen: some farm jobs had failed and output was not properly closed
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- MM is identical
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- *NB* Garth: please also check #events between old and new versions
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- Nathan, Junaid: believe the correct GitHub to use is MASTER, not
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LTSep_Analysis_2022, which does not include most recent updates
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*NB* please check with Richard on this
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- Diamond cuts rechecked, low epsilon nicely centered in big epsilon diamond
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- *NB* Garth: please also compare the low epsilon Data and SIMC diamonds, if
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there is a shift between Data and MC, it's important to take the SMALLER of
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the low epsilon diamonds
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- MM-shift fits
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- fitting Lambda peak w/ Gaussian, same shift applied also to pion
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leakthrough data
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- see a small pi+n MM shape difference between pion leakthrough and pure pion
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samples
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- Ioana: leakthrough and clean pi+n samples have slightly different delta
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distributions, which accounts for the shape difference
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- SIMC negative weights
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- using what believes to be Richard's latest parameters
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- Left SHMS settings have negative weight, which is surprising, still
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checking with Richard on whether using the correct parameters
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- found that the weights are negative in a specific region of t-phi
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- for now, just reduce LT function parameter causing this, to give positive
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weight
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- also found that TT gives negative weight at high -t, outside expt
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acceptance
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- Garth: in this region the TT model is unphysical, but since it's outside
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the expt acceptance, it will have no impact upon the results
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PionLT Q2=3.85 LT-separations
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- making changes to LT-sep functions due to problems identified last week with
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- changed T=(p1/Q2)*exp(p2*Q2)*exp(p3/|t|)
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- TT also changed, first part of function is (p14/Q2)*exp(p15*|t|)+polynomial
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- with initial parameters (0th iteration) high epsilon Data/MC ratios are
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- 1st iteration: high epsilon Data/MC ratios near 1 but with significant
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phi-dependence similar to low epsilon
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- 2nd iteration: high epsilon ratio osc got stronger, ratios still centered
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near 1
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- some parameters in L,LT,Tt functions are held fixed during iterations
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- *NB* Garth: with the fixed params, LT,TT have no freedom in fitting Q2=dep,
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suggest to freeze one of the t-dep params and unfreeze the Q2-dep param
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- Nacer: suggests to fix exponential param to a small value and allow the
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polynomial term to float in fit
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- *NB* Garth: also please extend the model curves to end of t-range of data,
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and add curve of previous model to plots, so you can more easily see how
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PionLT Coin Blocking Studies
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- plot integration problems from last week fixed, calculating
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OUTSIDE-CUTS/FULL-RANGE ratio per setting, using CUT=30-130ns RawCoinTime
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- Plots of correction vs Rate go from near 1 at low rate to ~0.95 at high
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rate, lots of variation between settings at same rate
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- fitting with an exponential to get the time constant
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- get 53-83ns vs SHMS rate, depending on setting
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- Dave: this time constant is an effective dead time
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- implemented the correction into CoinLumi yields
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- *NB* something is wrong, curves vs. Current are steeper instead of
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shallower, need to recheck
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- changed RawCoinTime cut to 30-100ns from 30-130ns based on narrower
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- this gives a larger correction, up to 10%, still working on it
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- Garth: it's important to confirm that the correction is ~1 at very low
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rate, where there would be no blocking
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- Dave: what were the HMS+SHMS gate widths?
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- Dave finds https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3892668
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which has HMS=30ns and SHMS=50ns widths
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- *NB* Nathan needs to look more carefully at logbook and check for other
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entries
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- Garth: the obtained time constant and gate widths should be approximately
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consitent with each other, as they're effectively measuring the same thing
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- also investigating effect of including GoodTrack and GoodStartTDC cuts in
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this analysis, Mark Jones had suggested using both cuts
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- if the GoodTrack cut is removed, the correction is up to 20%
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- Dave: there will be additional inefficiencies caused by these cuts
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- as long as they are treated separately, so that this study is
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uncorrelated from them, it should be okay to keep the cuts
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Next Meeting
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- Fri Sept 19 @ 11:00 Eastern/9:00 Regina
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- PionLT will go first
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** NOTE THE NEW TIME **
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- this time will be in effect until USA daylight savings time change, after
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