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Garth Huber, 01/12/2026 12:14 PM

 
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                 Jan 8-9/26 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
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                                (Notes by GH)
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                    Today: PionLT will be discussed first
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Thursday: Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Muhammad Junaid, Alicia Postuma, Nathan Heinrich,
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   Nermin Sadoun
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CUA - Sameer Jain, Tanja Horn, Chi Kin Tam
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FIU - Pete Markowitz
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Junaid
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Q2=3.85, W=2.02 analysis
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- PID: should an Aerogel cut be used or not?
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  - tried cuts >0, 0.5, 1.5, 3.0, 5.0 npe
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    - low epsilon: no real difference in events away from pi+n MM peak
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    - high epsilon: a bigger difference, looks like losting more events in peak
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      than background though
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  - conclusion: won't apply an Aerogel cut
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  - *NB* W=2.62 data set had a >1.5 npe cut, Nathan should recheck if this is
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    needed
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- MM offsets and Diamond cut finalized
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- working next on t-binning
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Nathan
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PionLT Lumi report
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- finished tracking systematic uncertainties
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  - plotted HMS, SHMS effs vs S1X rate
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  - found mean & stddev of residuals from linear fit to get scale and random
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    systematics
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  - random syst: ~10-6 so can safely ignore
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  - scale syst: ~0.1% HMS, ~0.2% SHMS
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    - a one -sided uncertainty, means we might be over-estimating the tracking
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      effs
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    - *NB* Garth: looking more carefully at the scatter of the points in the
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      plots, suggests to take the uncertainty as +/- anyways, there are more
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      points below than above the linear fit, but the scatter of the points on
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      both sides of the line (particularly around 300 kHz) is about the same
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  - info added to Lumi report
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- will send Lumi report to email list for comments, and eventually post on
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  RedMine and Hall-C docDB
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Nermin
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PionLT LD2 analysis
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- first step: reviewing Das' PID study for a single LD+, LD- setting from last
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  year
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  - his study was based on 4 runs of each SHMS polarity
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- CoinTime plots: no offset is applied, will do so
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- SHMS-CAL: will use <0.8 cut
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- SHMS-NGC: will use <2.4 npe cut, particularly important for pi- settings
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Next steps:
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- will reply all LD2 data
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- then do PID study, find detector efficiencies and estimate pi- purity
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Sameer
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KaonLT CoinTime blocking
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- was using 3/4xELREAL for CoinRate
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  - switched to 3/4x3/4, as suggested by Nathan
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- needed to adjust time in Rate calculation for beam-off periods, as
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  otherwise the rate is underestimated (sometimes significantly)
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  - *NB* however this is not yet implemented for all Rate plots
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- *NB* Nathan: the Q2=5.5 plot of CoinBlock vs Rate has some significant
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  outliers that need investigation, likely something in the analysis failed
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  that needs fixing
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- should use EDTM-LT for Coin data, CPU*ELLT for Singles
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Friday: Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Nathan Heinrich, Muhammad Junaid, Alicia Postuma,
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   Vijay Kumar, Nermin Sadoun
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CUA - Chi Kin Tam, Tanja Horn, Sameer Jain
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JMU - Gabriel Niculescu
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CSULA - Konrad Aniol
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Chi Kin
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KaonLT Q2=3.0, W=3.14 LT-sep
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- investigated MM resolution discrepancy Data vs SIMC
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  - plot ssdelta vs ssxpfp for SHMS center, low and high epsilon
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  - plot x'tar vs MM
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    - in both cases, looked for correlations, didn't find anything significant
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  - also checked optics matrix element files
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    - HMS: hms_recon_conf_opt2018
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      - Junaid says this is the correct one
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    - HMS: shms_newfit_xptar_april2020
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  - studied MC resolution parameter sigma_res=3.5 to 4.5
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    - 3.5 seemed best one for left-high epsilon setting
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    - center-low epsilon: 4.0 seems better
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    - center-high epsilon: tried 1.0 to 10.0
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      - data is much wider than MC, but the effect is t-dependent
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  - decision: will use modified resolution factor only for Lambda background
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    subtraction, not for the MC yield calcs
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- updated Lambda background fit procedure
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  - when resolution is not a problem:
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    - fit Gausian to both data and SIMC to find peak and apply MM offset
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    - calculate separate chi-square for peak and sideband regions, and optimize
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      chi-square separately for each region
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    - seems to work, but needs some individual attention that everything is
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      working correctly
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  - when resolution is a problem
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    - looks more objectively at the sideband regions and change fit by hand
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- LT-sep results:
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  - sigL shows a nice trend with t, but the 2nd t-bin is a bit low compared to
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    3rd t-bin
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    - looking at background subtraction to check
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    - Data/MC ratios look fairly resonable at low, high epsilon, generally
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      1.0+/-0.25 with some mild phi-oscillations
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  - however, when adjusting background subtraction to move the 2nd t-bin to the
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    1-3 bin trend, the 1st t-bin moves by ~50%(!)
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    - *NB* this points to a large background subtraction systematic uncertainty
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      that needs to be understood
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  - Data vs MC kinematic comparison plots
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    - some significant deviations noted, particularly for HMS-delta, yptar
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- reran SIMC for all 5 settings
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  - need to make sure diamond cut is correct
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Alicia
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- BSA press release
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  - some discussion on modifications to the figures to be used
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Vijay
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PionLT Low Q2 LT-sep
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- reanalyzed unseparated cross sections with CoinTime cut width varied +/-10%,
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  and computed the difference from the nominal cut:
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  - low epsilon: 3.25%
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  - mid epsilon: 1.4%
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  - high epsion: 1.5%
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  - Garth: suggests a scale syst unc of 1.5% for all data and an
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    epsilon-dependent uncertainty of 1.8% that will affect primarily sigL (with
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    delta-epsilon) magnification
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Next Meetings
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- we will continue with the current meeting schedule for now, can adjust once
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  people better know their 2026 timetables
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- Thurs: Jan 15 @ 16:00 Eastern/15:00 Regina
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  - KaonLT will go first
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- Fri: Jan  16 @ 11:00 Eastern/10:00 Regina
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  - we will continue where we left off
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