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Garth Huber, 02/27/2026 06:15 PM

 
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                Feb 26-27/26 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
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                                (Notes by GH)
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                    Today: KaonLT will be discussed first
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Thursday: Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Alicia Postuma, Nacer Hamdi, Muhammad Junaid,
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   Nermin Sadoun
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FIU - Pete Markowitz
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Ohio - Julie Roche
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Virginia - Richard Trotta
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JLab - Dave Gaskell
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CUA - Sameer Jain, Chi Kin Tam, Tanja Horn
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CSULA - Konrad Aniol
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Nacer
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KaonLT Q2=0.5 LT-sep
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- Lambda: changed t-binning to fill in gap between lowest 2 t-bins
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  - divided 1st t-bin in half, now 9 bins:
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    -t=0.075, 0.082, 0.087, 0.093, 0.099, 0.105, 0.112, 0.122, 0.140
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  - Data/MC ratios look good after 7 iterations
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  - 2nd t-bin sigL slightly higher than 1st bin by ~1 sigma, first t-bin went
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    down a bit
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  - Richard: notes that sigT has pole term formula in it, while sigL does not
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    - Nacer will try with the pole term in sigL
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- Sigma0: results not shown last week, Data/MC ratios look good
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  - kinematic plot comparisons look good too
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  - sigL essentially zero over whole t-range
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- will also rerun w/o MM shift to see how big of a difference it makes
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  - Garth will look into kinematics equation, to find implied t-shift when MM
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    is shifted
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Junaid
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PionLT Q2=3.85, W=2.62
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- also added another low t-bin, divided first 2 bins into 3 bins
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  - the new point is mid-way between bins 1,3
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  - Garth: the gap between the 2 highest t-bins is quite large, suggests to
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    also divide last 2 t-bins into 3 bins, so all bins have roughly equal
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    spacing
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  - Data/MC ratios look better for high epsilon than low epsilon
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- planning to start systematic studies next week
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Richard
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KaonLT high Q2 yield comparisons with Chi Kin
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- CKT and RT met at JLab and figured out the SIMC discrepancy, yields now match
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  - 2 issues were found:
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    - cut mismatch, CKT hadn't implemented an Aerogel tray geometry cut
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    - miscommunication on which files were used
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- effect of various cuts on SIMC yields:
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  - MM + t: ~20% decrease from no cut
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    + acceptance: ~50%
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    + HGC hole cut: ~65%
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    + diamond cut (low epsilon): ~80%
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- plans for full replay of KaonLT data
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  - will start w/ best setting (Q2=3.0, W=3.14) and work down
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  - adding a new branch w/ only CoinTime cuts (no PID) for detector syst
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    studies
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  - will explicitly add PID cuts in analysis and vary them for studies
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- plans for KaonLT systematic studies
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  - also will start with Q2=3.0, W=3.14 and work down
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  - Phase 1: check now data yields change
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    - compare data yield results due to different bkd subtraction procedures
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     (RT vs CKT)
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   - vary MM, acceptance, HGC hole cuts, and check variation across t-bins,
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     SHMS-settings, and epsilon-settings
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  - Phase 2: Radiative corrections ON/OFF, check how SIMC yields change
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Chi Kin
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KaonLT drafting paper: intro, iterations procedure, text not yet on OverLeaf
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- systematics study: Q2=3.0 W=3.14
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  - Dave: should not widen acceptance cuts into regions of poorly understood
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    ME, only narrow them
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  - Garth: similarly don't make diamond wider, as then parts of the low epsilon
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    diamond will be empty, only narrow
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    - also does not see the point of varying t-binning, this will change the
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      t-central of the bin and of course the cross section will change
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Alicia
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Slides for Phi-007 Expt Readiness Review
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 - did MM resolution studies, demonstrating we understand the expected Phi-007
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   MM resolution, based on KaonLT p(e,e'p)omega data
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 - proton arm momentum much lower in Phi-007 than KaonLT, TOF separation will
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   be beter, so K+ leakthrough will be less
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 - Phi-007 MM resolution expected to be 1.8x worse than KaonLT, based on
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   magnetic optics properties
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omega LT-sep
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- ssypfp big spike at zero resolved
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  - issue was a few runs when reprocessing data
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  - did not have to replay data, only redo python processing after replay
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    - the issue was that not all variables were enabled for some runs
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- the omega MC of ssyptar dist is somewhat narrower than Bkd subtracted data
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  - Dave: a possible issue is that SIMC does not incorporate collimator
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    punchthrough for protons, only for pions
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    - will try to locate Mark Jones' old proton punchthrough code for us
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- in general, the Sum-MC kinematic distributions are in reasonable agreement
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  with data
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  - need 2-4x more Pythia MC statistics
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Friday: Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Nathan Heinrich, Vijay Kumar, Muhammad Junaid,
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   Nacer Hamdi, Nermin Sadoun, Alicia Postuma
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FIU - Pete Markowitz
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JMU - Ioana Niculescu, Gabriel Niculescu
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Glasgow - Kathleen Ramage, Rachel Montgomery
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Virginia - Richard Trotta
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CUA - Tanja Horn
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Nermin
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PionLT LD2- PID study
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- last week showed that NGC had very low NPE, looked into recalibrating
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  - went through Cameron's NGC calib script
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- Run 12035
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  - placed Pcal cut to select electron sample
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  - cuts placed on approximate boundaries of 4 NGC mirrors
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  - apply SHMS cut: -10% < delta < +22%
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  - optained new NGC gain factors via Poisson fit of fADC spectra
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- statistics looked a bit low, so tried script on Runs 12026, 29, 35
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  Gain Parameters:
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  PMT1: 3.38   PMT2: 1.735   PMT3: 6.37   PMT4: 4.91
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  - Nathan: these are much smaller gain values than he had (about 10) so it
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    explains the observed low NPE
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  - Garth: surprised how poorly these PMTs were gain matched
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  - Nacer comments about PCAL spectrum:
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    - 2 peaks around 1, 1.2
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      - Nathan: these are most likely an electron and a pi- in the calorimeter
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        at the same time.  The other option could be a miscalibration for some
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	data
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    - peak around 2
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      - Nathan: this is 2 electrons in the calorimeter at same time
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- after calibration, now gets a more reasonable NGC distribution from 2-6 NPE,
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  more similar to what Das had in his setting (~4 NPE)
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- NS will try to get a NGC calibration using even more runs to get better
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  statistics for the Poisson fit
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- will also do a NGC efficiency calculation for electrons
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Kathleen
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PionLT LD+ PID study
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- looking at Q2=1.6, W=3.08, Ebeam=6 GeV, theta_SHMS=5.50deg
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- CoinTime study
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  - with no PID cuts, hard to see prompt CoinTime peak, due to the very high
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    rate with SHMS at small angle
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  - then applied PID cuts, prompt peak is clear, shifted prompt peak to zero
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  - did random subtraction using 3 peaks to left and right of prompt peak
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- RFtime study
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  - selected main peak for pi+nn events
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- refining HMS and HMS cuts
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PionLT Low Q2 systematics studies
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- completed model systematics for Q2=0.375
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  - this week, varied sigLT and sigTT models by 1 error bar and looked at
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    variation in sigL,T
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    - 1st t-bin is more sensitive than the others, results only in a drop in
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      the cross section
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    - for the other t-bins, sigL,T goes up or down, depending on the model
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      change
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  - this means a 1-sided systematic error (from model dep) will be applied
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- compute the combined uncertainties to apply to the data
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- it would be good if the model syst could be studied also for Q2=0.425
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PionLT Q2=3.85, W=2.62 cross checks with Junaid's analysis
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- showed plots from the analysis scripts
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- next step is to compare yield totals, and kinematic plots with Junaid
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- Nathan and Sameer had a 3 hour meeting on Wednesday on Lumi analysis
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Gabriel
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Alternative PID and channel ID for KaonLT
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- leaky pi+ has a different distribution than Lambda,Sigma0, so a subtraction
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  pi+n data might not be ideal
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- first showed a fit of 2 skewed Gaussians to MM data
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  - did 10,000 fits and found the Lambda,Sigma0 yield for each fit
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  - made a frequency plot of yields obtained from the 10k fits, found this led
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    to a 10-15% variation in yield
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  - Nacer: many of the skewed Gaussian fits produce a small peak near MM=1.11
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    that seems unphysical
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- then explained Quality-factor fitting (Q-fit) based on recent paper by
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  Williams, Bellis and Meyer: arXiv:0809.2548v3 [nucl-ex]
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  - it is a generalization of the SideBand subtraction method
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  - compute the "Distance" between 1 event and another, using 7 variables:
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    Ebeam, (delta, xptar, yptar)_SHMS, (delta, xptar, yptar)_HMS
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  - select 1000 nearest neighbors to each event, do a MM fit of Gaussian peak
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    and linear background for Lambda and Sigma0 regions, and find fitted signal
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    fractions of Signal and Background
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  - use the signal fraction to calculate the Quality-factor for the event
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  - instead of incrementing data histogram by 1, increment it by the
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    Quality-factor
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  - the idea is to get a MM plot of just the Lambda, Sigma0 peaks with no
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    background underneath
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  - compared Q-fit Lambda, Sigma0 yields to standard fit of MM histogram, they
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    agree nicely, much smaller errors than 2 skewed Gaussian fit
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Next steps:
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- plans to adapt Q-fit method to excited hyperon identification, and write a
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  paper on the method
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- also preparing the analysis framework for general release  
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Next Meetings
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- Thurs: Mar 5 @ 16:00 Eastern/15:00 Regina
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  - PionLT will go first
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- Fri: Mar 6 @ 11:00 Eastern/10:00 Regina
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  - we will continue where we left off
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- NOTE: this will be the last week at these times.  After this, we move to the
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  summer schedule
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  Thurs: 16:00 Eastern/14:00 Regina
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  Fri:   11:00 Eastern/ 9:00 Regina
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