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Alicia Postuma, 03/19/2026 06:09 PM

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3 537 Garth Huber
h1. *KaonLT/PionLT Weekly Meetings*
4 1 Richard Trotta
5 293 Garth Huber
KaonLT/PionLT collaboration analysis meetings. Please add your talk to the meeting ahead of time. Add the newest meeting to the top of the list!
6 262 Richard Trotta
7 645 Vijay Kumar
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8 284 Vijay Kumar
9 1253 Alicia Postuma
h2. 2026 Meetings
10 961 Garth Huber
11 1248 Vijay Kumar
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12 1 Richard Trotta
13 1327 Abdennacer Hamdi
h3. March 12-13, 2026
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15 1335 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
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** Modified u-phi binning
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** Extending shape study to each individual bin
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** attachment:uChan_mar19.pdf
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h3. March 12-13, 2026
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24 1329 Garth Huber
* Garth's notes attachment:mtg_26mar12-13.txt
25 1327 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
26
** First look at sigT(Sigma/Lambda) using two approaches.
27
** Investigated the first two t-bins in sigL, no issue seen in pion subtraction up to now.
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** attachment:20260312_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
29 1330 Garth Huber
* Kathleen
30 1331 Garth Huber
** attachment:LD2+_DetectorCuts.pdf
31 1332 Nermin Sadoun
* Nermin
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** attachment:NGC_Calib.pdf
33 1333 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
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** Working on u-phi binning for omega
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** attachment:uChan_mar12.pdf
36 1327 Abdennacer Hamdi
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39 1317 Abdennacer Hamdi
h3. March 05-06, 2026
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41 1321 Garth Huber
* Garth's notes attachment:mtg_26mar5-6.txt
42 1320 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
43
** attachment:kaonlt-3.6.pdf
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** found unphysical events in data in center settings. Solution is to apply Garth's calculation of t-shift originated from MM-shift.
45 1318 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
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** Rebinned t. Divided the t-distribution into 7 bins.
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** attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_Prod_Analysis_7tbinning.pdf
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** Calculated Unsep and Sep L/T/LT/TT cross-sections.
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** attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_Prod_Analysis_LT_Sep_xsection_7tbin.pdf
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** attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_Prod_Analysis_Rosenbluth_Sep_xsection_7tbin.pdf
51 1317 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
52
** Swapped the cross section model with pole term in sigT to sigL, the results look very similar, with a very small improvement with sigT containing the pole term.
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** verified the separated cross sections difference with and without the missing mass shift, leading to RMSE of ~ 4%. It seems to better keep the mass shift, with the corresponding t-shift.
54
** explore the difference in the Raw Coin time distributions between Winter18 and Autumn18 parameter files.
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** attachment:20260305_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
56 1322 Garth Huber
* Garth
57 1323 Garth Huber
** t-shift codes attachment:tshift_kaonff.f attachment:tshift_piff.f attachment:linux_suppl.inc
58 1324 Nermin Sadoun
* Nermin
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** attachment:NGCerCalibrationforLD2-5march26.pdf
60 1325 Kathleen Ramage
* Kathleen
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** attachment:LD2+_timingCuts.pdf
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** Initial timing and PID cuts for LD2+.
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64 1317 Abdennacer Hamdi
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66 1290 Vijay Kumar
h3. February 26-27, 2026
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68 1294 Garth Huber
* Garth's notes attachment:mtg_26feb26-27.txt
69 1309 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
70 1319 Muhammad Junaid
** Rebinned t. Divided the first two t-bins into 3 (total 6tbins).
71 1310 Muhammad Junaid
** attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_Prod_Analysis_tbinning.pdf
72 1309 Muhammad Junaid
** Calculated Unsep and Sep L/T/LT/TT cross-sections.
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** attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_Prod_Analysis_LT_Sep_xsection.pdf
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** attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_Prod_Analysis_Rosenbluth_Sep_xsection.pdf
75 1311 Vijay Kumar
76 1294 Garth Huber
* Gabriel
77 1295 Garth Huber
** Q-fit method of extracting Lambda, Sigma0 yields
78 1296 Garth Huber
** slides: https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/1221
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** original paper: attachment:0809.2548v3.pdf
80 1302 Nermin Sadoun
* Nermin
81
** attachment:NGCer_Calibration_LD2.pdf
82 1309 Muhammad Junaid
83 1315 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
84
** attachment:kaonlt-2.26.pdf
85
** first study of SIMC yield systematic uncertainty (Q2=3.0,W=3.14)
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87 1316 Richard Trotta
* Richard
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting2_26-2_27_2026.pdf
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** Issues in yield comparisons were successfully fixed through a combination of cut mismatching, SIMC differences, and some miscommunication (e.g., what cuts files actually were using). 
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** Full replays are beginning soon. First setting expected to be finished next week.
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* Alicia
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** Missing mass resolution calculation for phi-007 ERR
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95 1290 Vijay Kumar
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97 1277 Abdennacer Hamdi
h3. February 19-20, 2026
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99 1279 Garth Huber
* Garth's notes: attachment:mtg_26feb19-20.txt
100 1277 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
101 1280 Garth Huber
** Found the optimal models for sig_T, sig_L, sig_LT, sig_TT that produce the best Data/SIMC ratios ~ [0.8, 1.2].
102 1277 Abdennacer Hamdi
** attachment:20260219_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
103 1312 Vijay Kumar
104 1303 Nermin Sadoun
* Nermin
105 1304 Nermin Sadoun
** attachment:PionLD2-sitting26feb19.pdf
106 1314 Vijay Kumar
107 1277 Abdennacer Hamdi
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109 1271 Vijay Kumar
h3. February 12-13, 2026
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111 1273 Richard Trotta
* Richard's notes: attachment:mtg_26feb13.txt
112 1271 Vijay Kumar
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114 1 Richard Trotta
115 1271 Vijay Kumar
h3. February 5-6, 2026
116 1263 Richard Trotta
117 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard's notes: attachment:mtg_26feb5-6.txt
118 1279 Garth Huber
* Nermin Sadoun:
119 1287 Garth Huber
**  PID study for LD2-: attachment:Pion_Electroproduction_LD2minus.pdf
120 1289 Garth Huber
121 1272 Vijay Kumar
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122 1263 Richard Trotta
123 1259 Vijay Kumar
h3. January 29-30, 2026
124 1263 Richard Trotta
125 1270 Vijay Kumar
* Richard's notes: attachment:mtg_26jan29-30.txt
126 1259 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
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** Performed 2-2 iterations after changing the +-10 coin cuts. The separated cross sections are similar without iterations.
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** Dave said, not understanding why we need these changes (coint time ones). 
129 1260 Vijay Kumar
** We need to have group discussions on this.  
130 1259 Vijay Kumar
** attachment:Vijay_Jan30_26.pdf
131 1262 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
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** Updated pion subtraction : omit if there is only noise at MM \approx 0.938.
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** Cross section in progress : Reweight inconsistency between Richard and I in 0-th iteration.
134 1 Richard Trotta
** attachment:kaonlt-1.29.pdf
135 1263 Richard Trotta
* Nermin
136 1266 Nermin Sadoun
** Did Randoms subtraction for Missing mass for LD2+
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** Updated PID cuts for LD2+
138 1 Richard Trotta
** attachment:Pion_PID_LD2_30Jan26.pdf
139 1326 Garth Huber
140 1276 Richard Trotta
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141 1259 Vijay Kumar
142 1258 Garth Huber
h3. January 22-23, 2026
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_26jan22-23.txt
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148 1253 Alicia Postuma
h3. January 15-16, 2026
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150 1255 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_26jan15-16.txt
151 1253 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
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** Potential solution for Pythia issue at Q2=3, W=2.32
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** attachment:uChannel_Postuma_Jan16.pdf
154 1254 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
155
** PonLT summer 2019 systematic uncertainty studies.
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** attachment:Vijay_Jan16_26.pdf
157 1256 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
158
** Diamond cut by overlapping all (data, simc) diamond fit --> mismatch in Right high e, Q^2=3.0, W=2.32
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** Kaon LT separated xsect for Q^2=4.4, W=2.74, inconsistency with Richard's result. To be checked.
160 1 Richard Trotta
** attachment:kaonlt-1.15.pdf
161 1257 Richard Trotta
* Richard
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting1_15-1_16 2026.pdf
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** Ratios, kinematics plots, and cross-sections were shown for Q2=3.0/W=2.32, Q2=4.4/W=2.74, Q2=5.5/W=3.02 using the same parameters.
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** There are still some issues discussed by Kin that need to be resolved before they are finalized.
165 1307 Nermin Sadoun
* Nermin
166 1 Richard Trotta
** attachment:Efficiency_PionLD2-sitting16jan26.pdf
167 1326 Garth Huber
168 1253 Alicia Postuma
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170 1248 Vijay Kumar
h3. January 08-09, 2026
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172 1249 Muhammad Junaid
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_26jan8-9.txt
173 1250 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
174 1249 Muhammad Junaid
** Slides: attachment:Q3p85_W2p02_LTSep_PreAnalysis_08_01_2026.pdf
175 1 Richard Trotta
** Looked at Aerogel Cut for physics setting Q2 = 3.85, W = 2.02. Aerogel cut is not making any difference to MMpi.
176 1256 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
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** Check correlation between MM and SHMS variables, etc
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** matrix element files checked : low momentum for HMS
179 1 Richard Trotta
** HMS and SHMS distribution disagreement in SIMC / data after iteration. 
180 1256 Chi Kin Tam
** Slides: attachment:kaonlt-1.8.pdf
181 1306 Nermin Sadoun
* Nermin
182 1 Richard Trotta
** attachment:PionLD2_random_subtrations8Jan26.pdf
183 1326 Garth Huber
184 1253 Alicia Postuma
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h2. 2025 Meetings
187 1231 Richard Trotta
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190 1245 Garth Huber
h3. December 18-19, 2025
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192 1246 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25dec18-19.txt
193 1247 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
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** attachment:kaonlt-12.19.pdf
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** attachment:main_0000.pdf, attachment:main_0001.pdf, attachment:main_0002.pdf, attachment:main_0003.pdf
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** under-subtraction in Left high e settings
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** Huge mismatch in resolution between SIMC and data in Center high e
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** temporary solved by fitting to norm * (smeared SIMC) + bkg
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** SIMC resmult study --> increase from 3.5 to 4.5 matches width in high t bin but not lowest t bin.
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** MM vs SHMS variables correlations, see main*.pdf
201 1245 Garth Huber
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204 1236 Richard Trotta
h3. December 11-12, 2025
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206 1238 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25dec11-12.txt
207 1236 Richard Trotta
* Richard
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting12_11-12_12.pdf
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** Lowered the event threshold for accepted t-phi bin yields to be >=1 (previously >=25). This fixed a majority of the "bad" ratio bins, resulting in a nice set of ratio plots for Q2=3.0, W=2.32. There are still some outstanding bins and errors need to be investigated before final results.
210 1243 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
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** attachment:Q3p85_W2p02_LTSep_PreAnalysis_11_12_2025.pdf
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** Adjusted Aerogel Cut for physics setting Q2 = 3.85, W = 2.02. Calculated Aerogel efficiency > 85%.
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** Adjusted Diamond cut for physics setting Q2 = 3.85, W = 2.02.
214 1240 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
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** attachment:Postuma-uChan-Dec12.pdf
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** Updated u-channel statistics estimate
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** Pythia experimentation (odd behaviour at W=2.32)
218 1241 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
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** attachment:kaonlt-12.12.pdf
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** Updated background fit by simultaneouly fit norm * SIMC + Cheb. 
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** Slightly improved yield ratio in high t bin
222 1242 Garth Huber
* Gabriel
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** different method to determine kinematic offsets from physics data
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** attachment:GNiculescu_klt_kinematic_offsets_25dec09.pdf
225 1236 Richard Trotta
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228 1231 Richard Trotta
h3. December 4-5, 2025
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230 1232 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25dec4-5.txt
231 1234 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
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** attachment:Q3p85_W2p02_LTSep_PreAnalysis_05_12_2025.pdf
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** Checked Aerogel Cut for physics setting Q2 = 3.85, W = 2.02.
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** Determined MM offsets and cut for physics setting Q2 = 3.85, W = 2.02.
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** Determined Diamond cut for physics setting Q2 = 3.85, W = 2.02.
236 1231 Richard Trotta
* Richard
237 1233 Garth Huber
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting12_4-12_5.pdf
238 1231 Richard Trotta
** Improved t-phi bin by bin empirical fits which corrects (or removes) bad fits more consistently
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** Updated the uncertainty calculation for the empirical fits to use the covariance.
240 1235 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
241
** attachment:kaonlt-12.5.pdf
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** add polynormial fit to background using the side bands.
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** Slight improvement on yield ratio.
244 1239 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia 
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** Showed geometric Aerogel-RF PID cut 
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** Only a few slides - added to PDF for Dec 11/12 update
247 1231 Richard Trotta
248 1199 Muhammad Junaid
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250 1221 Muhammad Junaid
h3. November 28, 2025
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252 1229 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25nov28.txt
253 1221 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
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** attachment:PionLT_KaonLT_Collab_Meeting_28_11_2025.pdf
255 1 Richard Trotta
** Used 1.2 <= RF cut <= 3.4 for physics setting Q2 = 3.85, W = 2.02, t = 0.49.
256 1224 Muhammad Junaid
** Calculated RF cut efficiency (~ 0.998) for physics setting Q2 = 3.85, W = 2.02, t = 0.49.
257 1223 Muhammad Junaid
** Calculated pion absorption factor (~ 0.955) for physics setting Q2 = 3.85, W = 2.02, t = 0.49.
258 1225 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
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** attachment:20251128_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
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** Tried different models for sigT, while cancelling sigL, sigLT, sigTT
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** Found an optimal model for sigT, next will be to come up with an optimal sigL.
262 1227 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
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** attachment:u_channel_dvcs_feasibility.pdf
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** Feasibility of u-channel DVCS extraction: could get upper limit from several settings
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** This is an available project, I am leaving it for now
266 1230 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
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** attachment:kaonlt-11.28.pdf
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** attachment:Q3p0_W3p14_center_high.csv
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** attachment:Q3p0_W3p14_center_low.csv
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** attachment:Q3p0_W3p14_left_high.csv
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** attachment:Q3p0_W3p14_left_low.csv
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** attachment:Q3p0_W3p14_right_high.csv
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** corrected mm shift to simc peak
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** counts per bin are recorded
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** refining background subtraction under the the Lambda peak
276 1228 Alicia Postuma
277 1221 Muhammad Junaid
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279 1214 Richard Trotta
h3. November 20-21, 2025
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281 1217 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25nov20-21.txt
282 1218 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
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** attachment:PionLT_KaonLT_Collab_Meeting_12_11_2025.pdf
284 1222 Muhammad Junaid
** Calculated pion absorption factor (~ 0.965) for physics setting Q2 = 3.85, W = 2.62, t = 0.21.
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** Calculated RF cut efficiency (~ 0.998) for physics setting Q2 = 3.85, W = 2.62, t = 0.21.
286 1214 Richard Trotta
* Richard
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting11_20-21_25.pdf
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** Analysis of the bad t-phi bins for Q2=3.0/W=2.32 was shown. 
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** The old one Chebyshev fit was replaced with two (quadratic+Chebyshev) to handle bad fits per t-phi bin better.
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** A breakdown of the next analysis steps was also discussed.
291 1215 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
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** attachment:20251121_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
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** Data/SIMC ratio is improved, with sigma_T only and the rest terms cancelled sigma_L, sigma_LT, sigma_TT.
294 1214 Richard Trotta
** the sigma_T model does not fit well the data.
295 1220 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
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** attachment:kaonlt-11.21.pdf
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** Fix reweighting by using average theta calculated from average Q^2, W and t instead of directly taking from `P_kin_secondary_th_xq`.
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** Data/SIMC ratio is improved, especially in the first t bin, but still need refinement due to mm mismatch with SIMC and background subtraction.
299 1226 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia 
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** attachment:u_channel_dvcs_prelim.pdf
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** Paper is submitted
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** Enabled missing mass squared in the latest replay
303 1244 Garth Huber
* Vijay
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** attachment:Vijay_25Nov21.pdf
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** systematic check of pion blocking correction
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** kinematic and acceptance plots for 2 Q2=0.425 settings
307 1216 Vijay Kumar
308 1214 Richard Trotta
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310 1208 Richard Trotta
h3. November 13-14, 2025
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312 1212 Garth Huber
* Garth and Richard's Notes attachment:mtg_25nov13-14.txt
313 1208 Richard Trotta
* Richard
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting11_13-14_25.pdf
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** Using the same functional forms as Q2=4.4, W=32.74
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** Ratios look fairly flat with little structure. There are 2-3 bins that dip and need investigation
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** The distributions look okay overall, but more iterations will be needed (currently only 3). The delta distributions, in particular, are a bit off.
318 1209 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
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** The PionLT 2019 summer data analysis now includes updated cross-section results after applying the pion coin blocking and pion absorption corrections.
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** attachment:Vijay_Nov014_25.pdf
321 1213 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
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** attachment:kaonlt-11.14.pdf
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** modified binning to extend lowest and highest t bin coverage. counts reported.
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** Q3p0_W3p14 : 0-th iteration results look well but updated parameters lead to negative weights. Investigation on-going.
325 1209 Vijay Kumar
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327 1208 Richard Trotta
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329 1206 Garth Huber
h3. November 6-7, 2025
330 1199 Muhammad Junaid
331 1206 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25nov6-7.txt
332 1199 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
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** Slides: attachment:LTSep_Analysis_06_Nov_2025.pdf
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** Ratios are much closer to 1, and interference oscillations are reduced.
335 1200 Muhammad Junaid
** Comparison plots look good.
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** Ratio Plots: attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_ProdCoin_iter13_ratios.pdf
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** Unsep xsect Plots: attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_ProdCoin_iter13_unsep_xsect.pdf
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** Comp Plots: attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_ProdCoin_iter13_comp.pdf
339 1201 Richard Trotta
* Richard
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting11_6_25.pdf
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** After the changes to simc vertex variables, a new set of functional forms were found that work quite well for Q2=4.4, W=2.74
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** There is still a bit of fluctuation in the cross sections so more iterations are needed to stabilize these. 
343 1203 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
344 1 Richard Trotta
** attachment:20251107_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
345 1203 Abdennacer Hamdi
** L,T,LT,TT cross section models optimization continue.
346 1204 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
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** The coin blocking study of the PionLT summer 19 data is completed. 
348
** attachment:Vijay_Nov05_25.pdf
349 1207 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
350
** attachment:kaonlt-11.7.pdf
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** Yields are consitent with Richard's result on Q^2=4.4,W=2.74 settings except for the treatment of pion and other bkg subtraction.
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** mm peak too small in Lowest t bin in Q^2=3.0, W=3.14 left lowe setting. Better binning in t is needed.
353 1203 Abdennacer Hamdi
354 1193 Richard Trotta
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h3. October 30-31, 2025
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358 1196 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25oct30-31.txt
359 1197 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
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** Slides: attachment:LTSep_Analysis_30_Oct_2025.pdf
361
** Fixed phi (data and SIMC) conversion to 0 - 360 deg scale.
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** Added 360 to the phi<0.
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** Ratios are much closer to 1, and interference oscillations are reduced.
364 1198 Muhammad Junaid
** Plots: attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_ProdCoin_iter05.pdf
365 1193 Richard Trotta
* Richard
366
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting10_31_25.pdf
367
** Fixed an issue in my user simc which gave incorrect theta/phi vertex values.
368
** New results show oscillation in ratios, interference terms need adjustment.
369 1194 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
370
** attachment:20251031_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
371
** Corrected the phi range mismatch between vertex and reconstructed phi angle.
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** The data/SIMC yields for lambda have improved and the interference bumps are reduced.
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** First look at data/SIMC yields for sigma and the ratios are near 1 with some exceptions.
374 1195 Abdennacer Hamdi
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376 1119 Muhammad Junaid
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378 1190 Garth Huber
h3. October 23-24, 2025
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25oct23-24.txt
381 1191 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
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** Doing missing mass shape studies on other settings
383
** Found odd Pythia distribution at Q2=3, W=2.32 (lowest W in data)
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** Plots: attachment:uchan-pythia-oct23.pdf
385 1192 Alicia Postuma
386 1190 Garth Huber
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388 1185 Garth Huber
h3. October 16-17, 2025
389 1183 Abdennacer Hamdi
390 1185 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25oct16-17.txt
391 1183 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
392
** Slides: attachment:20251017_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
393 1184 Richard Trotta
** introduced LT and TT interferences, but the data/simc ratios became further from unity. 
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* Richard
395 1183 Abdennacer Hamdi
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting10_16_25.pdf
396 1186 Vijay Kumar
** Adding Q2 dependence to functional forms using power-law scaling.
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* Vijay
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** The PionLT summer 2019 coincidence time blocking correction study.
399 1187 Vijay Kumar
** attachment:Vijay_Oct017_25.pdf 
400 1188 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
401 1189 Chi Kin Tam
** Slides: attachment:kaonlt-10.17.pdf
402 1188 Chi Kin Tam
** Numerical issue of cross section when -t is out of experimental range, e.g. -t > 0.7. Added a cut on -t for SIMC vs data comparison.
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** Comparison with Richard's yields on Q^2=4.4, W=2.74 settings. Results are consistent for lowe settings but deviate a lot in highe settings. 
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405 1183 Abdennacer Hamdi
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407 1177 Abdennacer Hamdi
h3. October 10, 2025
408 1173 Garth Huber
409 1182 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25oct10.txt
410 1181 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
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** Slides: attachment:LTSep_Analysis_10_Oct_2025.pdf
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** Iteration v23: attachment:Iteration_v23.pdf
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** Added an extra |t| dependence term in sigmaLT and SigmaTT. Ratios indicate cos2phi oscillations. Sigma LT looks fine, but sigmaTT needs to be changed.
414 1176 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
415
** Slides: attachment:20251010_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
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** Compared SIMC abd Data missing mass plots, and SIMC lambda is well aligned with Data
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** pion subtraction is good
418 1180 Richard Trotta
* Richard
419
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting10_10_25.pdf
420
** Fit for both Q2 settings together (at W=2.22) for Fpi-2 look really good using the FiSAMi algorithm.
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** Q2=4.4, W=2.74 are in a preliminary finalized state with everything looking very good with the current parameterization and functional forms. 
422 1178 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
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** Updated the pion and proton absorption and yield correction factors spreadsheet with their errors. 
424 1179 Vijay Kumar
** These corrections should be used for PionLT summer 2019 data.
425
** These should be final numbers as well.
426 1178 Vijay Kumar
** attachment:Vijay_Pion_Proton_Absorption_Corr_sheet.pdf
427 1188 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
428 1189 Chi Kin Tam
** Slide: attachment:kaonlt-10.10.pdf
429 1188 Chi Kin Tam
** added a missing mass cut on comparison of HMS and SHMS variables. Distributions shape are reasonable. 
430 1178 Vijay Kumar
431 1176 Abdennacer Hamdi
---
432
433
h3. October 3, 2025
434
435 1173 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25oct03.txt
436 1175 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
437
** Slides: attachment:LTSep_Analysis_03_Oct_2025.pdf
438
** Iteration v17: attachment:Iteration_v17.pdf
439
** Added a exponential factor in |t| term. Ratios indicate oscillations. Sigma TT looks fine, but sigmaLT needs to be changed.
440
** Iteration v18: attachment:Iteration_v18.pdf
441
** Modified sigma LT term. Still seeing oscillations. Sigma TT looks fine, but sigmaLT needs to be changed.
442 1174 Richard Trotta
* Richard
443
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting10_3_25.pdf
444
** Early stages of testing my LT fit algorithm on separated xsect data. The Fpi-2 data is the initial check, with more to follow.
445 1188 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
446
** Slides: attachment:kaonlt-10.3.pdf
447
** updated replay files with the recent CUTS and PARAMS files
448
** Lt iteration : Change to uniform binning, yield ratios are fairly flat but the cross section calculation is wrong and that the comparison with SIMC needs a cut on missing mass.
449 1174 Richard Trotta
450 1173 Garth Huber
---
451
452 1161 Abdennacer Hamdi
h3. September 26, 2025
453
454 1163 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25sep26.txt
455 1166 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
456
** Slides: attachment:LTSep_Analysis_26_Sep_2025.pdf
457
** Iteration v11: attachment:Iteration_v11.pdf
458 1167 Muhammad Junaid
** Added a parameter to the denominator in the |t| term. Ratios have a bump in the middle. Sigma TT looks fine, but sigmaLT needs to be changed.
459 1166 Muhammad Junaid
** Iteration v12: attachment:Iteration_v12.pdf
460
** Added a parameter in the |t|^power term. Ratios indicate oscillations. Sigma TT looks fine, but sigmaLT needs to be changed.
461 1161 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
462
** Slides: attachment:20250926_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
463
** When we evaluate the functional form of sigm_L for -t value in SIMC, in particular at low -t bins, which are beyond the range of data, we obtain high values of sigm_L leading to bigger discrepency between SIMC and data yields.
464
** Data/SIMC ratios at low -t bins are improved by limiting the parameter in the exponential of sigm_L.
465
** sig_LT and sig_TT are set to zero. 
466 1164 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
467
** attachment:uchan-update-sep26.pdf
468
** Updates on u-channel shape study
469
** Asymmetry, meson production ratios likely not a feasible measurement 
470 1165 Alicia Postuma
471 1161 Abdennacer Hamdi
---
472
473 1154 Abdennacer Hamdi
h3. September 19, 2025
474
475 1158 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25sep19.txt
476 1168 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
477
** Slides: attachment:LTSep_Analysis_19_Sep_2025.pdf
478
** Iteration v10: attachment:Iteration_v10.pdf
479
** Changed |t|^power terms in sigmaLT and sigmaTT. Ratios indicate oscillations. Functions need to be changed.
480 1154 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
481
** Slides: attachment:20250919_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
482 1 Richard Trotta
** Data/SIMC are very close to 1, after correction to the separated cross section functional forms, sig_LT and sig_TT are set to zero. 
483 1155 Abdennacer Hamdi
** Due to sinusoidal behavior in the yields ratio, we will need to include the interference terms in the cross section
484 1156 Vijay Kumar
485 1154 Abdennacer Hamdi
---
486
487 1150 Garth Huber
h3. September 12, 2025
488
489
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25sep12.txt
490 1169 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
491 1171 Muhammad Junaid
** Slides: attachment:LTSep_Analysis_04_Sep_2025.pdf
492
** Iteration v7: attachment:Iteration_v7.pdf
493
** Added sigmaLT and sigmaTT terms.
494 1151 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
495 1152 Chi Kin Tam
** Slides: attachment:update-2025.9.12.pdf
496 1151 Chi Kin Tam
** replayed all 10 settings in Q2=3.0 W=3.14 and Q2=2.1, W=2.95
497
** small shape difference in missing mass for the proton peak from true pion and misidentified pion.
498
** modified diamond fit function
499
** modified \sigmaLT term to avoid negative CS in Left settings, to be optimized.
500 1153 Abdennacer Hamdi
501 1150 Garth Huber
---
502
503 1142 Garth Huber
h3. September 4, 2025
504
505
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25sep04.txt
506 1146 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
507
** Slides: attachment:LTSep_Analysis_Sep_4_2025.pdf
508
** Added W_factor to functional forms. 
509 1147 Muhammad Junaid
** Set sigma_LT and sigma_TT terms to zero. Getting ratios close to 1.
510 1144 Chi Kin Tam
* Kin
511 1145 Muhammad Junaid
** Slides: attachment:missing-mass-fit-9.4.2025.pdf
512
** Gaussian fit to Lambda peak, consistent result for all runs in Q^2=3.0, W=3.14
513
** Subtract background from Sigma peak by modeling it with a "crystalball function":https://www.jlab.org/primex/weekly_meetings/slides_2009_07_17/dmitry/crystalball.html
514 1142 Garth Huber
515
---
516
517 1141 Garth Huber
h3. August 28, 2025
518
519
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25aug28.txt
520 1148 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
521
** Slides: attachment:LTSep_Analysis_Aug_28_2025.pdf
522
** Getting ratios around 35. 
523
** Looking into scripts to figure out the issue.
524 1141 Garth Huber
525
---
526
527 1139 Garth Huber
h3. August 21, 2025
528
529
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25aug21.txt
530 1149 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
531
** Slides: attachment:LTSep_Analysis_Aug_21_2025.pdf
532
** Changed sigma_L functional form from Tanja's to Peter's version.
533 1139 Garth Huber
534
---
535
536 1131 Nathan Heinrich
h3. August 14, 2025
537
538 1138 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25aug14.txt
539 1131 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
540
** Away at doctor's appointment, but there is spirit.
541
** working on write up for RefTimes study, as well as Lumi study
542
** Slides with details: attachment:CoinLumiUpdate20250814.pdf
543 1132 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
544
** Due to challenging fit of the separated cross sections, we cancelled the interference terms for now, LT and TT.
545 1133 Abdennacer Hamdi
** The fits seems converging, but the data/SIMC ratios after couple of iterations although fairly flat, are far from unit.
546 1132 Abdennacer Hamdi
** Slides: attachment:20250814_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
547 1137 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
548 1136 Alicia Postuma
** Modifying figures for PLB resubmission
549
** attachment:asym_paper_edits_aug14.pdf
550 1132 Abdennacer Hamdi
551 1131 Nathan Heinrich
---
552
553 1129 Garth Huber
h3. August 7, 2025
554
555
* Tanja's Notes attachment:mtg_25aug07.txt
556 1130 Richard Trotta
* Richard
557
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting8_7_25.pdf
558
** Tried out a few empirical background fits which improved the results quite a bit. There are few, if any bad bins, with ratios looking pretty flat. Going forward, a 2nd order Chebyshev will be used. With and without pion subtraction was also tested with small differences, but pion subtraction will remain to get a better empirical fit.
559 1134 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
560
** Test the new SIMC weight calculation script during the iterations, by a small variations, +/-5% and +/-10%,  in the separated cross section fits.
561
** The results are consistent, and small variation in the parameters lead to small variations in the Data/SIMC ratio.
562
** attachment:20250807_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
563 1136 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
564
** Working on implementing referee comments from PLB
565
** Looking for perspectives from the group: attachment:asym_paper_edits_aug7.pdf
566 1135 Abdennacer Hamdi
567 1129 Garth Huber
---
568
569 1124 Richard Trotta
h3. July 31, 2025
570 1119 Muhammad Junaid
571 1125 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jul31.txt
572 1 Richard Trotta
* Junaid
573 1122 Muhammad Junaid
** Was using the wrong variables to calculate SIMC weights. Fixed weight calculation script.
574 1121 Muhammad Junaid
** Working on iterations using Tanja's functional forms.
575 1 Richard Trotta
** attachment:PionLTMeeting_LTSep5.pdf
576 1124 Richard Trotta
* Richard
577
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_31_25.pdf
578
** Expanded the MM range to clearly show the proton leak through (especially at left/right settings at both epsilons). The HGCer leak through is not as problematic as initially assumed, which is good. Focus will be on fitting this background.
579 1126 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
580
** attachment:20250731_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
581
** First look at the first iteration and functional forms fit optimization.
582 1128 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
583
** attachment:simc-pythia-july31.pdf
584
** Pythia+SIMC events compared to data. Good reproduction of background
585 1127 Garth Huber
586 1107 Richard Trotta
---
587
588 1112 Alicia Postuma
h3. July 24, 2025
589
590 1115 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jul24.txt
591 1112 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
592
** attachment:pythia-simc-jul24.pdf
593
** Successfully ran Pythia events through SIMC, albeit at very low efficiency
594 1113 Alicia Postuma
* Ivan
595
** Updated statistical errors on ALU for non-neglible subtractions
596 1114 Alicia Postuma
** Alicia's derivation: attachment:asym-err-derivation.pdf (Ivan derived the same on paper, posting digital version)
597 1123 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
598
** Ran 01st iteration. Ratios are so high.
599
** Found an error in the weight calculation script.
600
** attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_iter01.pdf
601 1112 Alicia Postuma
602
---
603
604 1107 Richard Trotta
h3. July 17, 2025
605
606 1108 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jul17.txt
607 1107 Richard Trotta
* Richard
608
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_17_25.pdf
609
** Using the same functional forms and parameterization as last week showed very nice results when all phi settings were included for Q2=4.4, W=2.74
610
** There is still some refinement to the functional forms, but overall things are almost ready for this setting.
611 1109 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
612
** Analysis update: progress on both Xphasespace and Pythia approaches to background modelling
613
** attachment:uchannel_updates_july17.pdf
614
** Theory update: summary of discussions with Bill at JLab regarding the interpretation of u-channel results
615
** attachment:uchannel_notes_july17.pdf
616 1110 Alicia Postuma
* Ivan
617
** Setting up for systematic studies on K+ BSA
618
** attachment:KaonLT_Zhenchuk_July17.pdf
619 1117 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
620
** Ran 00th iteration to calculate new params.
621 1118 Muhammad Junaid
** Working on weight calculation script.
622 1117 Muhammad Junaid
** attachment:PionLTMeeting_LTSep4.pdf
623 1111 Alicia Postuma
624 1105 Richard Trotta
---
625
626
h3. July 10, 2025
627
628 1106 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jul10.txt
629 1105 Richard Trotta
* Richard
630
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_10_25.pdf
631
** The pion subtraction procedure has been refined, leading to a noticeable improvement in the cross-section ratios at Qยฒ = 4.4 GeVยฒ and W = 2.74 GeV (center setting only).
632
** Tighter MM_K cuts were applied, yielding a modest additional improvement in the ratios.
633
** Some bins still exhibit contamination. However, incorporating all kinematic settings should mitigate this to some extent. If residual sigma contamination persists, a dedicated sigma fit may be necessary once all settings are fully examined.
634 1116 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
635
** ran 00th iteration to extract new params.
636
** Working on weight calculation script.
637
** attachment:PionLTMeeting_LTSep3.pdf
638
639 1098 Richard Trotta
640
---
641
642 1104 Alicia Postuma
h3. July 3, 2025
643 1098 Richard Trotta
644 1099 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jul03.txt
645 1098 Richard Trotta
* Richard
646
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_3_25.pdf
647
** The functional forms last week work fairly well for all Q2 settings (minus 2.115 which needs to be rerun as the cut root files were removed from volatile).
648
** The pion subtraction has significant improvement on fits and will be the focus over the next week. 
649 1100 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
650
** Started LTSep analysis with Tanja's functional forms
651 1103 Alicia Postuma
** attachment:PionLTMeeting_LTSep2.pdf
652 1098 Richard Trotta
653 1046 Richard Trotta
---
654
655 1090 Abdennacer Hamdi
h3. June 26, 2025
656
657 1095 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jun26.txt
658 1093 Richard Trotta
* Richard
659
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_26_25.pdf
660
** attachment:OldFits_6_25_2025.pdf
661 1097 Richard Trotta
** attachment:Cauchy_Schwarz_LT_Proof_v2.pdf
662 1094 Richard Trotta
** Resolved a minor bug in the pion subtraction uncertainty calculation and refined the pion scaling factor to enhance subtraction accuracy. Additionally, a new formulation for the unseparated cross section was implemented, based on the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality and constrained by L,T>0.
663 1 Richard Trotta
** Using the updates described above, new models were constructed for Q2=4.4 and W=2.74. Comparisons between data and SIMC show good agreement, with stable ratios and solid cross section fits. While further refinements are needed, this model provides a strong foundation.
664
* Nacer
665
** first look at KaonLT, Q2=0.5 GeV2, unseparated and separated cross sections.
666 1096 Richard Trotta
** attachment:20250626_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
667 1104 Alicia Postuma
* Ivan
668
** Kaon BSA updates: Q2=0.5, W=2.40 and all 10.6 GeV run period data
669
** attachment:KBSA_Zhenchuk_June26.pdf
670 1090 Abdennacer Hamdi
671
---
672 1091 Abdennacer Hamdi
673 1085 Alicia Postuma
h3. June 20, 2025
674 1087 Alicia Postuma
675 1088 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jun20.txt
676 1085 Alicia Postuma
* Ivan
677 1086 Alicia Postuma
** Kaon BSA summary of work to date
678
** attachment:KaonBSA_Zhenchuk_Jun20.pdf
679 1101 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
680 1102 Muhammad Junaid
** Did Rosenbluth fitting on Q2=3.85 Setting
681 1101 Muhammad Junaid
** attachment:PionLTMeeting_LTSep1.pdf
682 1085 Alicia Postuma
683 1089 Garth Huber
---
684
685 1081 Richard Trotta
h3. June 5, 2025
686
687 1082 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jun05.txt
688 1081 Richard Trotta
* Richard
689
** attachment:theta_changes_3p0_2p32.png
690
** Corrections to the calculation of ฮธ, using the proper ฮ› mass, yield more reasonable values. However, the LT and TT terms require adjustment to accurately account for these changes. A more pronounced t-dependence is now evident and must be better described.
691 1083 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
692
** Pion and proton absorption studies are completed.
693
** attachment:Vijay_update_June05_25.pdf
694
695 1081 Richard Trotta
---
696
697 1077 Garth Huber
h3. May 29, 2025
698
699
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25may29.txt
700 1078 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
701 1079 Vijay Kumar
** Pion and Proton absorption studies are conducted.
702 1078 Vijay Kumar
** attachment:Vijay_update_May29_25.pdf
703 1080 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
704
** Plotted ratios vs phi.
705
** attachment:PionLT_ratios_vs_phi_distribution.pdf
706 1078 Vijay Kumar
  
707 1077 Garth Huber
---
708
709 1072 Richard Trotta
h3. May 22, 2025
710
711 1076 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25may22.txt
712 1072 Richard Trotta
* Richard
713
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_22_25.pdf
714
** Although the Qยฒ = 3.0, W = 3.14 ratio appears promising at first glance, the kinematic and acceptance plots clearly indicate that the older functional form provides a superior fit. Encouragingly, the three key scaling pointsโ€”Qยฒ/W = 3.0/2.32, 4.4/2.74, and 5.5/3.02โ€”continue to use this form consistently. These will be the main focus in preparation for the upcoming Hall A/C meeting in June.
715 1074 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
716
** working to determine the pion absorption correction factor for the data Yield correction.
717
** compared some of the variables with the Alicia ones to understand that things are working for me.
718 1075 Vijay Kumar
** found HGC and AGC peaks are not in my plots. attachment:Vijay_update_May22_25.pdf
719 1074 Vijay Kumar
720 1072 Richard Trotta
---
721
722 1070 Richard Trotta
h3. May 15, 2025
723
724 1071 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25may15.txt
725 1070 Richard Trotta
* Richard
726
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_15_25.pdf
727
** Qยฒ = 3.0 (W = 2.32) and Qยฒ = 4.4 (W = 2.74) are currently in a relatively stable state. While some refinements remain, their overall condition is solid. 
728
** A detailed breakdown of all systematic uncertainties, along with estimated timelines, was also reviewed.
729
730
---
731
732 1059 Richard Trotta
h3. May 8, 2025
733
734 1069 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25may08.txt
735 1059 Richard Trotta
* Richard
736
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_8_25.pdf
737 1060 Richard Trotta
** A dip in the unseparated cross section at 180ยฐ was traced to a ROOT issue: while a cut on the NTuple successfully excluded bad data in the TGraph, the TF2 fitting function ignored the cut; this was resolved by applying the cut directly in the Fortran script before loading into ROOT.
738 1059 Richard Trotta
** Remaining tasks include reanalysis and re-parameterization at multiple Q2/WQ2/W settings, complete SIMC and replay runs, and finalizing a systematics study in preparation for the upcoming Hall A/C meeting.
739 1061 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
740
** See attached plots for SIMC and data yields  comparison for each setting.
741
** attachment:center_lowe_kinematics_lambda.pdf
742
** attachment:left_lowe_kinematics_lambda.pdf
743
** attachment:center_highe_kinematics_lambda.pdf
744
** attachment:left_highe_kinematics_lambda.pdf
745
** attachment:right_highe_kinematics_lambda.pdf
746
** attachment:center_lowe_kinematics_sigma.pdf
747
** attachment:left_lowe_kinematics_sigma.pdf
748
** attachment:center_highe_kinematics_sigma.pdf
749
** attachment:left_highe_kinematics_sigma.pdf
750
** attachment:right_highe_kinematics_sigma.pdf
751 1063 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
752
** attachment:PreLTSep_Analysis.pdf
753
** Calculated physics yields for each phi-bin of each t-bin. Looks good.
754
** Calculated simc yields for each phi-bin of each t-bin. Looks good.
755
** Calculated DATA/SIMC yields and made comparisons plots.
756
** attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_loweps_center_Comp_Plots.pdf
757
** attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_higheps_center_Comp_Plots.pdf
758 1061 Abdennacer Hamdi
759 1059 Richard Trotta
---
760
761 1055 Nathan Heinrich
h3. May 1, 2025
762 1056 Richard Trotta
763 1058 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25may01.txt
764 1055 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
765
** presented the current status of the coin RF time cuts for lumi.
766
** got some strange shapes, plots contained here attachment:CTimeRefPlots_pass1.zip
767 1056 Richard Trotta
** going to investigate further
768
* Richard
769 1057 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_1_25.pdf
770 1056 Richard Trotta
** The large interference terms have been attributed to zero or negative unseparated cross-section values observed at angles near 180 degrees.
771 1066 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
772 1065 Muhammad Junaid
** Calculated physics yield for "Q2=3.85, W=2.62, t=0.21"
773
** Need to check the errors.
774
** attachment:LTSep_Analysis_v4.pdf
775 1056 Richard Trotta
776
---
777 1055 Nathan Heinrich
778 1047 Vijay Kumar
h3. April 24, 2025
779 1046 Richard Trotta
780 1051 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25apr24.txt
781 1046 Richard Trotta
* Richard
782
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_24_24.pdf
783
** Improved ratios at Qยฒ = 3.0 and W = 2.32, with the previously exaggerated TT now under control. Fits are largely acceptable, though interference contributions are still too large.
784 1 Richard Trotta
** For Qยฒ = 3.0, W = 3.14, the ratios are excellent and the kinematic agreement is strong; however, the fit quality is still notably poor.
785 1047 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
786
** Performed the missing mass offset study for the Q2 = 0.42 GeV2 data.
787
** Still 3 settings at high epsilon have some issues to fix.
788
** attachment:Vijay_update_April24_25.pdf  
789 1048 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
790
** Replayed 10.6 GeV data for proton mass, helicity enabled
791
** Preliminary PID / MMp plots:
792
** attachment:uchannel_updates_apr24.pdf
793 1052 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
794 1053 Muhammad Junaid
** Calculated physics yield for "Q2=3.85, W=2.62, t=0.21"
795 1052 Muhammad Junaid
** Need to check the errors.
796
** attachment:LTSep_Analysis_v4.pdf
797 1054 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
798
** Looking into Coin Reference times to see if there is an effect on the rate dependence.
799
** Found some strange shapes in the raw coin time distributions: attachment:RefTimesPass0.zip
800
** checking if calling the "coin time ref cut" file in the replay script changes anything. Looks like it does: attachment:RefTimesPass1.zip
801 1067 Muhammad Junaid
802 1037 Richard Trotta
---
803
804 1041 Richard Trotta
h3. April 17, 2025
805
806 1044 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25apr17.txt
807 1041 Richard Trotta
* Richard
808
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_17_24.pdf
809 1042 Richard Trotta
** Qยฒ = 3.0, W = 2.32 analysis is progressing well. The t-dependence of the ratios is flat, with minimal structure, consistent with the same functional form used at Qยฒ = 4.4 and 5.5. Some tuning of the W-dependence is still needed to bring the ratios closer to unity. Kinematics and acceptances between data and SIMC are closely matched. However, an unusually large LT/TT cross-section has been observed and warrants further investigation.
810 1043 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
811
** attachment:uchannel_updates_apr17.pdf
812
** Preliminary look at u-channel data at Q2=3, W=3.14, high epsilon
813 1045 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
814
** Selected t-range from 0.16 to 0.50.
815
** Divided t-distribution into 5 bins.
816
** attachment:LTSep_Analysis_v3.pdf
817 1041 Richard Trotta
818
---
819
820 1040 Garth Huber
h3. April 10, 2025
821 1 Richard Trotta
822 1040 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25apr10.txt
823 1037 Richard Trotta
* Richard
824
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_9_24.pdf
825
** At Qยฒ = 3.0 and W = 2.32, the ratios appear to be converging when using the functional forms derived from Qยฒ = 4.4 and 5.5. Additional iterations are needed to confirm this trend, but the current functional forms seem to perform well across all three Qยฒ settings.
826 1038 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
827 1039 Vijay Kumar
** The all polar plots for the three epsilon data at Q2 = 0.42 GeV^2.
828 1038 Vijay Kumar
** attachment:Vijay_April10_2025.pdf
829
830
831
832 1010 Abdennacer Hamdi
---
833
834 1029 Richard Trotta
h3. April 3, 2025
835
836 1035 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25apr03.txt
837 1029 Richard Trotta
* Richard
838
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_3_24.pdf
839
** The setting Qยฒ = 5.5, W = 3.02 aligns well with the functional form used at Qยฒ = 4.4, W = 2.74. However, statistics are limited at this Qยฒ, and the kinematic coverage extends into higher |t| values (tโ‚˜โ‚โ‚“ โ‰ˆ 0.9). To improve the statistical reliability, tโ‚˜โ‚โ‚“ will be reduced, which should yield slightly improved ratios in the upper bin. This high-|t| behavior is consistent with observations at Qยฒ = 3.0, W = 2.32 and Qยฒ = 4.4, W = 2.74. Focus will now shift to the Qยฒ = 3.0, W = 2.32 setting.
840 1034 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
841
** Made the polar plot (tcos(phi) vs tsin(phi)) from the higher epsilon settings.
842
** Draw the circles with the exact same radii as the t bins width. 
843
** Last circle may be changed later. attachment:tvsphiQp425W2p2.png
844 1031 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
845
** Checked t-ti Resolution.
846 1030 Vijay Kumar
** Plotted tvsphi distribution to check the full phi coverage. Selected t-range from 0.16 to 0.50.
847
** Divided t-distribution into 7 bins. Need to do 5 bins. 
848
** attachment:LTSep_Analysis_v2.pdf
849
850 1029 Richard Trotta
851 1033 Muhammad Junaid
---
852
853 1036 Garth Huber
h3. March 27, 2025
854 1020 Vijay Kumar
855 1026 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25mar27.txt
856 1020 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
857
** Made polar plots (tcos(phi) vs t sin(phi)) from the full phi coverage of the epsilon (high epsilon).
858
** This epsilon has five experimental settings (Righ1, Right2, Center, Left1 and Left2).
859
** Make this polar plot for each setting and also combine one (adding all five settings).
860
** These plots have all the requred cuts.    
861
** attachment:Vijay_Mar27_2025.pdf
862 1021 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
863
** attachment:LTSep_Analysis_v1.pdf
864 1023 Muhammad Junaid
** Calculated Missing Mass offsets and cut (0.90 < MMpi <1.06) for Physics Setting - Q2=3.85, W=2.62, t=0.21 (2 epsilons)
865 1021 Muhammad Junaid
** attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_PionProd_MMCut.pdf
866
** Finalized Diamond cut.
867 1022 Muhammad Junaid
** attachment:Q3p85_W2p62_t0p21_ProdCoin_DiamondCut.pdf
868 1024 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
869
** attachment:20250327_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
870 1025 Abdennacer Hamdi
** Looked at merged settings for high epsilon data for different -t bins for both lambda and sigma resonances, to verify the coverage in phi.
871 1027 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
872
** attachment:shmsPA_Postuma_Mar27.pdf
873
** Significant progress on SHMS geant4
874
** Number of total stopped tracks agrees with spreadsheet, but missed 3/4 triggers does not
875
** A large number of secondary particles still cause a 3/4 trigger
876
** Simulation output updated to allow PID on tracks
877 1028 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
878
** showed plots with interesting puzzle. After applying Dave Mack's eLT + CPULT as Gaskel had requested last time (calling this pass14).
879
** After doing that we lose any consistent trends with any rate that I've investigated. Plots: attachment:LumiPass14.zip
880 1020 Vijay Kumar
881
---
882
883 1015 Vijay Kumar
h3. March 20, 2025
884 1016 Richard Trotta
885 1019 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25mar20.txt
886 1016 Richard Trotta
* Richard
887
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_20_24.pdf
888 1015 Vijay Kumar
** A decent set of functional forms have been selected for Q2=4.4, W=2.74. Before finalizing these, these functional forms will be tested on Q2=5.5/W=2.95 then Q2=3.0/W=2.32. These three share an x=0.4 so thus vital for the scaling studies.
889
* Vijay
890
** The diamond cut determined from the low epsilon, Center setting did not work properly for SIMC.
891
** I studied the diamond cut for low epsilon, left1 and left2 settings and found the same problem (SIMC diamond is not happy with the data diamond).
892
** I studied the data offsets that need to be applied in SIMC too.
893
*** I tested this study for low epsilon, Center setting and the SIMC diamond slightly improved.  
894
** attachment:Vijay_Update_March20_25.pdf
895 1017 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
896
** attachment:20250320_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
897
** t-binning width in data is compared to the width of delta t (ti-t) in simc.
898
** t-binning width in data is compared to -t vs. Phi to check the coverage.
899 1018 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
900
** attachment:LumiUpdate2025-03-20.pdf
901
** presented the mystery of HMS rate dependence in coin lumi data.
902
** More plots coming later
903
904 1015 Vijay Kumar
---
905
906 1011 Garth Huber
h3. March 13, 2025
907 1010 Abdennacer Hamdi
908
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25mar13.txt
909
* Nacer
910 1012 Vijay Kumar
** attachment:20250313_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
911
** Study an optimal t-binning for lambda and sigma kaon LT data. 
912
* Vijay
913 1010 Abdennacer Hamdi
** Studied the t binning and diamond cuts for the Q2 = 0.42 GeV2 data.
914
** attachment:Vijay_updates_Mar13_2025.pdf
915 1003 Richard Trotta
916
---
917
918
h3. March 6, 2025
919
920 1004 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:25mar06.txt
921 1003 Richard Trotta
* Richard
922
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_6_24.pdf
923
** Fixed issue with lowest t-bin for sigT. There was pion contamination that was causing oversubtraction. The tmin was increased, which fixed that issue. 
924 1009 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
925
** attachment:HeeP_Studies_Ratios.pdf
926
** HeePCoin ratios look good and are close to 1.
927
** HeeP Ratio plots - attachment:HeeP_Studies_Ratios_Plots.pdf
928 1003 Richard Trotta
929 961 Garth Huber
---
930
931 991 Abdennacer Hamdi
h3. February 27, 2025
932
933 992 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25feb27.txt
934 991 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
935
** attachment:20250227_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
936
** Diamond cut (W vs Q^2) study for lambda and sigma resonances for each data setting
937 993 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
938
** attachment:PionLT_Meeting_Update_v3.pdf
939 994 Muhammad Junaid
** Finalized HeePCoin Offsets.
940 998 Muhammad Junaid
** Applied global offsets to BE from 5.9GeV-9.9GeV and applied separate offsets to 10.6GeV.
941 997 Muhammad Junaid
** Plots without offsets- attachment:HeePCoinPlots_nooffset.pdf
942 995 Muhammad Junaid
** Plots with calculated offsets- attachment:HeePCoinPlots_withoffset.pdf
943 996 Muhammad Junaid
** Plots with modified offsets- attachment:HeePCoinPlots_withoffsetP0p47.pdf
944 994 Muhammad Junaid
945 991 Abdennacer Hamdi
---
946
947 990 Garth Huber
h3. February 20, 2025
948 1 Richard Trotta
949 990 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25feb20.txt
950 988 Richard Trotta
* Richard
951
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting2_20_24.pdf
952 989 Richard Trotta
** Comparison of Q2=5.5 and 4.4 with a t-dependent set of functional forms (incorrect sigT causes this). There is nice consistency between the two. Updating to the best set of functional forms is the next step for a comparison across Q2=3.0(W=3.14),4.4, 5.5 for next week.
953 999 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
954 1001 Muhammad Junaid
** attachment:PionLT_Meeting_Update_v2.pdf
955 999 Muhammad Junaid
** Need to calculate two sets of offsets, one for beam energies 5.9GeV-9.9GeV and other for 10.5GeV.
956 1002 Muhammad Junaid
** Plots without offsets- attachment:HeePCoinPlots_nooffset_v1.pdf
957
** Plots with calculated offsets- attachment:HeePCoinPlots_withoffset_v1.pdf
958 999 Muhammad Junaid
 
959 988 Richard Trotta
---
960
961
h3. February 13, 2025
962
963 986 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25feb13.txt
964 985 Richard Trotta
* Richard
965
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting2_13_24.pdf
966
** Adjusted W dependence for Q2=4.4, W=2.74 for better ratios.
967 987 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
968
** Calculated OOP offsets. Got +1.875mr for HMS and -0.155mr for SHMS
969
** attachment:PionLT_Meeting_Update_13_02_25.pdf
970 985 Richard Trotta
971
---
972
973 978 Richard Trotta
h3. February 6, 2025
974
975 980 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25feb06.txt
976 978 Richard Trotta
* Richard
977
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting2_6_24.pdf
978
** Q2=4.4, W=2.74 shows very nice agreement between data and SIMC with simplified functional forms of T and TT. The ratios are stable and fairly flat but seem to settle at R~0.2. The W dependence may need to be adjusted.
979 979 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
980
** attachment:20250206_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
981
** Q2=0.5, W=2.4, Central Low epsilon data compared to SIMC for both lambda and sigma missing mass ranges.
982 981 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
983
** attachment:geant4slides.pdf
984
** Presentation on the SHMS geant4 progress. Simulation is mostly complete, attempting to verify output
985 983 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
986 982 Muhammad Junaid
** Updated HMS optics matrix from NPS optics group for 5.9, 6.1 and 6.7 GeV.
987
** Work in progress for 5.6 GeV.
988
** Implemented zeroth order CMOP matrix elements for 5.9, 6.1 and 6.7 GeV.
989 983 Muhammad Junaid
** attachment:HMS_Optics_update_v1.pdf
990 984 Muhammad Junaid
991 978 Richard Trotta
---
992
993
h3. January 30, 2025
994 977 Garth Huber
995
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jan30.txt
996
997
---
998
999 969 Abdennacer Hamdi
h3. January 23, 2025
1000 1 Richard Trotta
1001 970 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jan23.txt
1002 969 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1003
** First look at data and SIMC yields for kaon LT at 3.8 GeV, Q^2 = 0.5, W = 2.40, Central low E
1004
** SIMC yields are wierdly high 
1005 976 Nathan Heinrich
** attachment:20250123_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1006
* Nathan
1007
** looking into applying Dave Mack's rate corrections in lumi data https://hallcweb.jlab.org/doc-private/ShowDocument?docid=1063
1008 1013 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1009 1014 Vijay Kumar
** Coincidence timing information updates for Q2 = 0.42 GeV2 data.
1010 1013 Vijay Kumar
** attachment:Vijay_Jan23_2025.pdf
1011 969 Abdennacer Hamdi
1012
---
1013
1014 968 Garth Huber
h3. January 16, 2025
1015
1016
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jan16.txt
1017 972 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
1018 1006 Garth Huber
** Showed Lumi Singles scaler yields after applying boiling correction
1019 972 Nathan Heinrich
** attachment:CombinedPlotHMS_LH2_Scalar.pdf attachment:CombinedPlotHMS_rate_LH2_Scalar.pdf attachment:CombinedPlotLH2_Singles_Rate_Scalar.pdf attachment:CombinedPlotLH2_Singles_Scalar.pdf attachment:CombinedPlotSHMS_LH2_Scalar.pdf attachment:CombinedPlotSHMS_rate_LH2_Scalar.pdf
1020
** tentative rate correction of 0.029+-0.002 %/MHz obtained
1021 973 Nathan Heinrich
1022 968 Garth Huber
---
1023
1024 965 Garth Huber
h3. January 9,2025
1025
1026 967 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jan09.txt
1027 971 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
1028 1008 Garth Huber
** Presented updated Lumi Singles Scaler Yields for both HMS and SHMS
1029 975 Nathan Heinrich
** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2695 https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2696 https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2697 https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2698 https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2699 https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2670
1030 971 Nathan Heinrich
** found a boiling correction of (2.8 +- 0.17 (stat) +- 0.69 (sys)) %/100uA
1031 974 Nathan Heinrich
1032 965 Garth Huber
---
1033
1034 961 Garth Huber
h3. January 2, 2025
1035
1036 964 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_25jan02.txt
1037 962 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1038
** attachment:20250102_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1039
1040
---
1041
1042 685 Abdennacer Hamdi
h2. 2024 Meetings
1043 684 Abdennacer Hamdi
1044 952 Abdennacer Hamdi
---
1045
1046 956 Abdennacer Hamdi
h3. December 19, 2024
1047
1048 959 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24dec19.txt
1049 956 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1050 958 Richard Trotta
** attachment:20241219_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1051
* Richard
1052
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting12_19_24.pdf
1053
** Using center data only, nice ratios have been found. There are good chi2 for L,LT but TT, and especially, TT need improvement which is evident from ratios.
1054 956 Abdennacer Hamdi
1055
---
1056
1057 952 Abdennacer Hamdi
h3. December 12, 2024
1058
1059 955 Richard Trotta
* Richard's Meeting Notes attachment:mtg_12dec24.txt
1060 954 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1061
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting12_12_24.pdf
1062
** t-range: Adjusted from 0.15-0.6 to 0.16-0.6.
1063
** Binning Scheme: Changed to 5 bins in t and 10 bins in phi. Increased the number of events per bin.
1064
*** Outcome: Significant reduction in pion leakage for the lowest t-bin.
1065
** Upper t-range: Need to reduced from 0.6 to 0.5 to address high-background issues in the highest t-bin.
1066 952 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1067 953 Abdennacer Hamdi
** attachment:20241212_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1068 949 Richard Trotta
1069
---
1070
1071
h3. December 5, 2024
1072
1073 950 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24dec05.txt
1074 949 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1075
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting12_5_24.pdf
1076 951 Garth Huber
** A MM shift to the lambda peak was implemented. 
1077 949 Richard Trotta
** It was found that in the lowest t-bin (<0.2) there is a significant pion background. This greatly lowers the statistics in this bin. 
1078
1079 887 Richard Trotta
---
1080
1081 946 Richard Trotta
h3. November 21, 2024
1082
1083 948 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24nov21.txt
1084 946 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1085
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting11_21_24.pdf
1086
** The MM peaks for high and low epsilon show a shift by ~10 MeV. The shift is different for high and low but consistent for all Q2 except Q2=3.0, W=2.32. The beam energy will be checked first and if things look fine then an offset will be applied on a run by run basis (plus for SIMC).
1087 947 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1088
** HeeP singles data/simc ratios deviate from 1.
1089
** the W distribution left and right tales are not produced in SIMC, and vary for each beam energy settings.
1090
** attachment:20241121_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1091 948 Garth Huber
1092 946 Richard Trotta
---
1093
1094 908 Garth Huber
h3. November 14, 2024
1095 1 Richard Trotta
1096 948 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24nov14.txt
1097
* Nathan
1098 910 Garth Huber
** showed plots of lumi status. More work needs to be done
1099 912 Nathan Heinrich
** attachment:CombinedPlotCarbon.pdf attachment:CombinedPlotCoin.pdf attachment:CombinedPlotHMS_LH2.pdf attachment:CombinedPlotHMS_LH2.pdf attachment:CombinedPlotLH2_ALL.pdf attachment:CombinedPlotLH2_Singles.pdf attachment:CombinedPlotSHMS_LH2.pdf
1100 908 Garth Huber
1101
---
1102
1103 911 Garth Huber
h3. November 7, 2024
1104
1105
* Dave's Notes attachment:mtg_24nov07.txt
1106
1107
---
1108
1109 907 Garth Huber
h3. October 31, 2024
1110
1111
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24oct31.txt
1112 941 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1113 943 Muhammad Junaid
** Working on SHMS PID study for pions attachment:SHMS_PID_Studies_v3.pdf
1114
** Did study on "EBeam=7.937, Q2=3.85, W=3.07, x=0.31, ฮธ_SHMS=5.50 (Right)" & attachment:SHMS_PID_plots_v3.pdf
1115 941 Muhammad Junaid
1116 907 Garth Huber
1117
---
1118
1119 905 Garth Huber
h3. October 24, 2024
1120
1121
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24oct24.txt
1122 906 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1123
*** final results for both HMS and SHMS HeeP singles for 3.8 GeV beam energy. attachment:20241024_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1124 942 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1125
** Working on SHMS PID study for pions attachment:SHMS_PID_Studies_v2.pdf
1126
** Did study on "EBeam=8.479, Q2=2.12, W=2.05, x=0.38, ฮธ_SHMS=21.22 (Center)" & attachment:SHMS_PID_plots_v2.pdf
1127 906 Abdennacer Hamdi
1128 905 Garth Huber
---
1129
1130 901 Richard Trotta
h3. October 17, 2024
1131
1132 904 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24oct17.txt attachment:MJones-HCANA-DC-update.pdf
1133 901 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1134
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting10_17_24.pdf
1135
** Breakdown of different sigTT for Q2=3.0, W=3.14. It is determined that using Marco's thesis form of sigTT will be the best generally.
1136 902 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1137
** attachment:20241017_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1138 903 Abdennacer Hamdi
** HeeP coin ratios are good, still waiting for proton absorption from Geant.
1139 902 Abdennacer Hamdi
** Heep singles HMS are consistent with 1, still checking SHMS
1140 938 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1141
** Working on SHMS PID study for pions attachment:SHMS_PID_Studies_v1.pdf
1142 939 Muhammad Junaid
** Did study on "EBeam=5.986, Q2=3.85, W=2.02, x=0.55, ฮธ_SHMS=15.79 (Center)" attachment:SHMS_PID_plots_v1.pdf
1143 940 Muhammad Junaid
1144 901 Richard Trotta
---
1145
1146 895 Vijay Kumar
h3. October 10, 2024
1147
1148 900 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24oct10.txt
1149 899 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1150
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting10_10_24.pdf
1151
** Ratios and xsects for all Q2 settings with adjusted W factor. Overall things look pretty good (Q2=5.5 still needs some investigation) with ratios fairly flat around unity for all settings and xsects looking promising.
1152 895 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1153
** The HMS delta systematic uncertainty study has been completed using the unseparated cross-section.
1154
** The volume systematic uncertainty for the Q2=0.38โ€‰GeV2 analysis has been determined by taking the quadrature sum of all contributing variables.
1155 897 Vijay Kumar
** In summary, the volume systematic uncertainty is 1.3% - 6.5%. attachment:Vijay_Oct10_2024.pdf  
1156 898 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
1157
** presented status of PionLT Coin Lumi analysis.
1158
** Some cuts need to be modified and random subtraction needs to be done
1159
** attachment:PionLTCoinLumi_Pass1.pdf
1160 937 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1161 945 Muhammad Junaid
** Implemented Mark's SHMS 3/4 Hodosocpe efficiency updates to HCANA and param files.
1162 937 Muhammad Junaid
** Getting Efficiencies > 99% attachment:Hodo_3_of_4_Effciency_Study.pdf
1163
1164
1165 895 Vijay Kumar
---
1166
1167
h3. October 3, 2024
1168 890 Vijay Kumar
1169 894 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24oct03.txt
1170 892 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1171
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting10_3_24.pdf
1172
** Finally resolved issue with ratios sitting between 0.2-0.6 by adjusting the W term.
1173 890 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1174
** Working to complete the volume systematic uncertainty study. The only HMS delta systematic uncertainty is in progress.
1175
** attachment:Vijay_Oct3_2024.pdf
1176
1177
---
1178
1179 889 Garth Huber
h3. September 26, 2024
1180
1181
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24sep26.txt
1182 891 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
1183
** Responding to referee comments: computing pion PID efficiency and purity
1184
** Discovered small amount of proton leakthrough -> added lower cut MMpi>0.91
1185
** attachment:BSA_Postuma_Sep26.pdf
1186 935 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1187
** looked at SHMS beta distribution attachment:HeeP_Studies_study_v9.pdf
1188
** No need to use HMS beta cut.
1189 936 Muhammad Junaid
1190 889 Garth Huber
---
1191
1192 887 Richard Trotta
h3. September 18, 2024
1193
1194 888 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24sep19.txt
1195 887 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1196
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting9_18_24.pdf
1197
** Running Vijay's pion Q2=0.38 setting worked nicely using the kaon scripts but there is an issue with the MM location that needs to be sorted out.
1198 934 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1199
** Calculated ratios using 3/4HodoEFF>99% attachment:HeeP_Studies_study_v8.pdf
1200
1201 884 Abdennacer Hamdi
1202
---
1203
1204
h3. September 12, 2024
1205
1206 885 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24sep12.txt
1207 884 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1208
** attachment:20240912_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1209 886 Ali Usman
* Ali
1210
** Updated Missing Mass shape study plots
1211 1 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Sept_12_2024.pdf
1212 933 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1213
** Calculated ratios using missing mass cut attachment:HeeP_Studies_study_v7.pdf
1214 886 Ali Usman
1215 684 Abdennacer Hamdi
---
1216
1217 882 Richard Trotta
h3. September 5, 2024
1218
1219 883 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24sep05.txt
1220 882 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1221
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting9_5_24.pdf
1222
** The ratios seem to still be settling at values between 0.3-0.6 for all Q2. I outline some ideas for debugging this issue.
1223 932 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1224
** Update on SHMS 3/4 Hodosscope efficiency attachment:Hodo_3_of_4_Effciency_Study_v2.pdf
1225
** Need to use ptof_tolerance = 2 in param files.
1226 882 Richard Trotta
1227
---
1228
1229 877 Garth Huber
h3. August 29, 2024
1230
1231
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24aug29.txt
1232 878 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1233
** attachment:20240829_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1234
** HeeP data/simc ratio improvements after missing mass cut MMp<0.11 GeV/c^2.
1235 881 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan and Zach
1236
** Zach's last meeting
1237
** presented final set of plots using CPULT + estimated ELT where EDTM was strange for 2022 Lumi data.
1238
** found that CPULT was not working properly in HMS only runs, but was fine in SHMS data.
1239
** Plots: attachment:Yield_2022_HMS_C_Final_EDTM.pdf attachment:Yield_2022_HMS_C_Final_ELT.pdf attachment:Yield_2022_HMS_LH2_Final_EDTM.pdf attachment:Yield_2022_HMS_LH2_Final_ELT.pdf attachment:Yield_2022_SHMS_C.pdf attachment:Yield_2022_SHMS_C_Final.pdf attachment:Yield_2022_SHMS_LH2_before.pdf attachment:Yield_2022_SHMS_LH2_Final.pdf
1240 930 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1241
** looked at SHMS 3/4 Hodoscope efficiency attachment:Hodo_3_of_4_Effciency_Study_v1.pdf
1242
1243 882 Richard Trotta
1244 877 Garth Huber
---
1245
1246 875 Garth Huber
h3. August 22, 2024
1247 1 Richard Trotta
1248 875 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24aug22.txt
1249 927 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1250 931 Muhammad Junaid
** Calculated HeeP ratio after fixing raster parameters attachment:HeeP_Studies_study_v6.pdf
1251 944 Muhammad Junaid
** Peaks are sharp now attachment:New_raster_plots1.pdf
1252 928 Muhammad Junaid
** Ratios are high. Need to check HMS and SHMS Hodoscope 3/4 efficiencies  
1253 875 Garth Huber
1254
---
1255
1256
h3. August 15, 2024
1257
1258 874 Garth Huber
* Dave/Alicia's Notes attachment:mtg_24aug15.txt
1259 873 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1260
** attachment:heep_ratio.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_3p8_Offset.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_4p9_Offset.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_6p2_Offset.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_8p2_Offset.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_10p6_Offset.pdf
1261
** HeeP ratios are consistent with my previous results (slight changes from improvements to HMS cherenkov/calorimeter efficiency). There are some inconsistencies between Nacer and me, specifically with the SHMS Hodo efficiencies. My replays were from Dec. 2023, so I want to rerun all replays to double-check consistency between my results.
1262
** Q=4.4/W=2.74 results were included in the KaonLT global comparison from last week. Q2=3.0/W=2.32 were running and slides will be posted when these are finished up to get the KaonLT global comparison for all Q2 (minus Q2=0.5).
1263 869 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1264 872 Abdennacer Hamdi
** Heep data/simc study continue
1265 871 Abdennacer Hamdi
** SHMS 3/4 Hodo and EDTM live time different from Richard's results for the same beam energies.
1266 869 Abdennacer Hamdi
** More details attachment:20240815_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1267 926 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1268
** Checked raster parameters attachment:HeeP_Studies_study_v5.pdf
1269
** Flipped raster y parameters sign and tilt decreased attachment:E10p549_HeePCoin_RasterCheck_Uncut_Distributions.pdf
1270
1271 869 Abdennacer Hamdi
1272 1 Richard Trotta
---
1273 869 Abdennacer Hamdi
1274 875 Garth Huber
h3. August 7, 2024
1275 861 Richard Trotta
1276 868 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24aug07.txt
1277 861 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1278
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting8_7_24.pdf
1279
** Q2=2.115, 3.0 (W=3.14), 5.5 were plotted vs -t (scaled to W=3.0) as well as vs Q2 (for fixed t). There is nice consistency between settings for L/LT/TT, but T has an odd shape that needs to be investigated.
1280
** This study will be expanded to include all Q2 settings which should fill out the comparison and narrow down a proper T description. 
1281 863 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1282
** attachment:20240807_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1283
** HeeP data/simc ratio is in order of 1.6% and 4% for 3.8 GeV and 4.8 GeV data respectively. Unfortunately, it the discrepancy is higher for 6.2, 8.2 and 10.6 GeV, which needs more investigation.
1284 865 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1285
** Changed the SigLT and SigTT functional forms to improve the yield ratio plots.
1286
** The new forms are: SigLT = p1*exp(p2*t) + p3/t, SigTT = p1*exp(p2*t) + p3/t.
1287
** The updated ratio plots are attached. 
1288 867 Vijay Kumar
** attachment:375_781.png, attachment:375_629.png, attachment:375_286.png 
1289 865 Vijay Kumar
** I'll catch up on the analysis after my final thesis defense, and then submit the final version to the FGSR office!
1290 924 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1291
** Fixed error calculation and getting reasonable values attachment:HeeP_Studies_study_v4.pdf
1292
** Checked raster parameters attachment:E6p395s1_HeePCoin_RasterCheck_Uncut_Distributions.pdf
1293
** Need to check signs
1294 865 Vijay Kumar
1295 876 Garth Huber
---
1296
1297 857 Vijay Kumar
h3. July 31, 2024
1298
1299 860 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24jul31.txt
1300 859 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1301
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_31_24.pdf
1302
** Using old log entries from Fpi, I have fit the Q2/W/theta dependence per t-bin.
1303 857 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1304
** The systematic uncertainties in the separated cross-sections due to SHMS and HMS volumes have been determined.
1305
** The effect of varying individual acceptance cuts (delta, xptar, yptar) by ยฑ10% at a time on the separated cross-sections has been analyzed.
1306
** The net effect on the separated cross-sections was determined by summing the uncertainties in quadrature for all six cuts (delta, xptar, yptar, each has two cuts).
1307
** For SHMS
1308
*** SigL: Varies between 0.1% and 0.8%    
1309
*** SigT: Varies between 0.1% and 1.2%
1310 858 Vijay Kumar
** For HMS:
1311 857 Vijay Kumar
*** SigL:Varies between 19% and 28%    
1312
*** SigT:Varies between 14% and 19%
1313
** Detailed spreadsheets outlining the uncertainties for both spectrometers are attached.
1314
*** attachment:Q1SHMSAcceptanceStudy_July31_24.ods
1315
*** attachment:Q1HMSAcceptanceStudy_July31_24.ods
1316 923 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1317
** Checked error calculation and needs to be fixed attachment:HeeP_Studies_study_v3.pdf
1318
** Need to check raster parameters.
1319
1320 857 Vijay Kumar
1321
---
1322
1323 855 Richard Trotta
h3. July 25, 2024
1324
1325 856 Garth Huber
* Dave's Notes attachment:mtg_24jul25.txt
1326 855 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1327
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_25_24.pdf
1328
** Q2=2.115 is in line with the other Q2s now. There are still some t-dep and Q2-dep that needs to be figure out to improve ratios.
1329 922 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1330
** Calculated HeeP Ratios attachment:HeeP_Studies_study_v2.pdf
1331
** Errors are big. Need to recheck the error calculation on the ratios.
1332
1333 855 Richard Trotta
1334
---
1335
1336 853 Richard Trotta
h3. July 18, 2024
1337
1338 854 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24jul18.txt
1339 853 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1340
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_16_24.pdf
1341
** New functional form used based off fpi. The transverse term likely needs a |-t| dependence as seen by the ratios.
1342
1343 919 Muhammad Junaid
1344 853 Richard Trotta
---
1345
1346 847 Vijay Kumar
h3. July 11, 2024
1347
1348 852 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24jul11.txt
1349 1 Richard Trotta
* Nathan and Zach
1350
** presented update on the Lumi analysis. attachment:PionLTmeetingjuly112024.pdf
1351
** good news, Carbon is flat. Medium news, funny outliers in the carbon.
1352 851 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1353
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_11_24.pdf
1354
** Comparison of xsects for Q2=2.115,3.0,5.5 shows a fairly constistent trend across -t, but the ratios are still not satisfactory and a new functional form is likely required.
1355
* Vijay
1356
** The effect of SHMS acceptance variation (ยฑ10% of the nominal values of delta, xptar, and yptar) on the separated cross-section is studied.
1357
** attachment:Q1SHMSAcceptanceStudy.ods
1358 917 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1359
** Calculated HeeP Ratios attachment:HeeP_Studies_study_v1.pdf
1360
1361 851 Richard Trotta
1362 847 Vijay Kumar
---
1363
1364 840 Vijay Kumar
h3. June 27, 2024
1365 834 Garth Huber
1366 845 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24jun27.txt
1367 846 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1368
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_27_24.pdf
1369
** Finding the correct parameterization for Q2=5.5 is still being investigated. A breakdown of the plots and issues in finding a correct one is shown.
1370 843 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay 
1371 842 Vijay Kumar
** Added LT and TT in the systematic uncertainty studies.
1372 839 Vijay Kumar
*** The systematic uncertainties due to the scanning of missing mass cuts and the effects of the radiative tail have been evaluated for the Qยฒ = 0.38 GeVยฒ data.
1373
*** I calculated the RMS of the variation in SigL and SigT for all eight cuts that were scanned, and also compared them with the standard cut. attachment:Q1MMpiCutStudy_June27_24.ods
1374
*** I turned off the radiative tail flag in the SIMC input files for all the kinematics of the Qยฒ = 0.38 GeVยฒ data, and then compared the SigL and SigT values. attachment:Q1RadiativeStudy_June27_24.ods
1375 913 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1376
** Finalized HeeP Offsets signs 
1377
** OOP offsets with existing signs are doing good job attachment:HeeP_Studies_offsetsigns.pdf
1378 839 Vijay Kumar
1379 916 Muhammad Junaid
---
1380
1381 839 Vijay Kumar
h3. June 19, 2024
1382
1383 834 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24jun19.txt
1384 835 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1385 836 Vijay Kumar
** The systematic uncertainties due to the scanning of missing mass cuts and the effects of the radiative tail have been evaluated for the Qยฒ = 0.38 GeVยฒ data.
1386
** I calculated the RMS of the variation in SigL and SigT for all eight cuts that were scanned, and also compared them with the standard cut. attachment:Q1MMpiCutStudy.ods
1387
** I turned off the radiative tail flag in the SIMC input files for all the kinematics of the Qยฒ = 0.38 GeVยฒ data, and then compared the SigL and SigT values. attachment:Q1RadiativeStudy.ods
1388 837 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1389 838 Muhammad Junaid
** Finalized In-plane HeePCoin offsets study.
1390 837 Muhammad Junaid
** Need to implement In-Plane (momentum, energy and angle) offsets with positive sign.
1391
attachment:PionLT_HeeP_Studies_in_plane_offset_Final.pdf
1392
attachment:PionLT_HeeP_Studies_in_plane_offset_plots_Final.pdf
1393 834 Garth Huber
1394
---
1395
1396 830 Richard Trotta
h3. June 13, 2024
1397
1398 833 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24jun13.txt
1399 830 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1400
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_13_24.pdf
1401
** 0th iteration for Q2=5.5,W=3.02 were shown. The t-range and binning needs to be adjusted, but this Q2 setting is behaving better than 2.115.
1402
1403
---
1404
1405 822 Garth Huber
h3. June 6, 2024
1406 1 Richard Trotta
1407 822 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24jun06.txt
1408 823 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1409
** Finished HMS Cer and Cal efficiency studies.
1410
** Got 0.9981 for HMS Cer and 0.9981 for HMS Cal.
1411
** attachment:PionLT_HMS_Detector_efficiencies.pdf
1412
** Working on HeeP In-Plane Offsets. Did the first comparison.
1413 1 Richard Trotta
** Momentum offsets should be applied in 1% unit.
1414
** attachment:PionLT_HeeP_Studies_v1.pdf
1415
** attachment:HeePCoin_Offset_Study_withoffset_v1.pdf
1416 824 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1417
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_6_24.pdf
1418
** Function form for sigL and sigT were changed. Only small changes seen in sep xsect (only 1 iteration)
1419 825 Richard Trotta
** "Globus file sharing information":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Globus_File_Sharing
1420 824 Richard Trotta
** Ali, Vijay, and I discussed systematics. We will concentrate on pt-to-pt first.
1421
* Vijay
1422
** Pion missing mass scanned for the cut dependence study.
1423
** attachment:Vijay_update_June6_2024.pdf
1424 826 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1425 827 Abdennacer Hamdi
** Heep coin study for 3.8 GeV and 4.9 GeV.
1426 826 Abdennacer Hamdi
** attachment:20240606_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1427 828 Ali Usman
* Ali
1428 829 Ali Usman
** Missing Mass Shape Study for pi-Delta BSA analysis is complete for all kinematics
1429 828 Ali Usman
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_June_6_2024.pdf
1430 824 Richard Trotta
1431 818 Vijay Kumar
---
1432
1433
h3. May 23, 2024
1434
1435 814 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24may23.txt
1436 813 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1437
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_23_24.pdf
1438
** Iterating on Q2=2.115,W=2.95; still in progress. Kinematic Q2/W vs t plots were fit for both Q2=2.115/W=2.95 and Q2=3.0/W=3.14 to get an idea of their dependence for implimentation on functional forms of xsects.
1439 815 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1440
** Updated beam energy values from Mark's wiki page.
1441
** Got updated Heepcoin In-plane offsets.
1442
** attachment:HeeP_Studies_inplane_offset.pdf
1443 817 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
1444
** Checked up on BCM calibration Quadratic correction in BCM2
1445
*** All data with fit parameters from low current fits, no Quadratic term: attachment:refit_bcm2_2021a_noQuad.png, attachment:refit_bcm2_2022_noQuad.png
1446
*** All data with fit parameters from low current fits, with Quadratic term: attachment:refit_bcm2_2021a_Quad.png, attachment:refit_bcm2_2022_Quad.png
1447
*** All data, refit leaving quadratic terms fixed and allowing linear terms to move: attachment:refit_bcm2_2021a_Quad_fit.png, attachment:refit_bcm2_2022_Quad_fit.png
1448
** Nathan's opinion is to use old terms for 2022, and the new terms for 2021
1449
** New lumi scan plots: attachment:Yield_6-4HMS_C.pdf attachment:Yield_6-4SHMS_C.pdf attachment:Yield_9-2pt1_C.pdf attachment:Yield_9-2pt2_C.pdf
1450 1 Richard Trotta
1451 876 Garth Huber
---
1452
1453 808 Garth Huber
h3. May 16, 2024
1454
1455
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24may16.txt
1456 810 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1457
** Updated beam energy values from Markโ€™s wiki page in standard.kinematics.
1458
** Updated the report template files for BCM2 current values.
1459 811 Muhammad Junaid
** Re-calculated the errors for out-of-plane offset. Added systematic error to error calculation.
1460
** Finalized Out-of-Plane Offset got +1.90mr for HMS and -0.07mr for SHMS.
1461 808 Garth Huber
** attachment:PionLT_HeeP_Studies_Out_of_plane_offset.pdf
1462 812 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
1463
** posted updated Lumi scan plots:
1464
** attachment:Yield_6-4HMS_C.pdf attachment:Yield_6-4SHMS_C.pdf attachment:Yield_9-2pt1_C.pdf attachment:Yield_9-2pt2_C.pdf
1465 813 Richard Trotta
1466
---
1467 808 Garth Huber
1468 799 Vijay Kumar
h3. May 09, 2024
1469
1470 806 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24may09.txt
1471 799 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1472 807 Garth Huber
** Cross-section plots for Q^2 = 0.38 GeV^2 data that I made for my thesis. attachment:Vijay_update_May9_2024.pdf
1473 801 Tanja Horn
* Richard
1474
** Unseparated and separated cross sections for Q^2 = 3 GeV^2 and W=3.14 GeV. attachment:KaonLT-update-05092024.pdf
1475 804 Ali Usman
* Ali
1476 805 Ali Usman
** Update on pi-Delta BSA analysis. Finished shape study for Q2 = 5.5 and 4.4. Extracted asymmetry for both settings and it's looking very good.
1477 804 Ali Usman
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_May_9_2024.pdf
1478 801 Tanja Horn
1479 799 Vijay Kumar
---
1480
1481 796 Vijay Kumar
h3. May 02, 2024
1482
1483 798 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24may02.txt
1484 797 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1485
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_2_24.pdf
1486 796 Vijay Kumar
** 17 iteration results for Q2=3.0, W=3.14. Parameterization was done with only center data in a t-range of 0.1 to 0.3. Iterations were fit with a 1D fit (removing Q2 dependence).
1487
* Vijay
1488
** LT sep analysis update. attachment:Vijay_May2_2024.pdf
1489
1490
---
1491
1492 792 Vijay Kumar
h3. April 25, 2024
1493
1494 795 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24apr25.txt
1495 792 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1496 794 Vijay Kumar
** Obtained all preliminary four separated cross-section terms at Q2=0.38 GeV2.
1497 792 Vijay Kumar
** Yield ratio (exp/simc) plots for all three epsilon values are included. 
1498 793 Vijay Kumar
** Acceptance and kinematics plots (thesis plots) from the center setting at epsilon=0.629 are also provided. attachment:Vijay_Apr25_2024.pdf
1499 792 Vijay Kumar
** Next Plan for 3-4 Weeks:
1500 795 Garth Huber
*** I have a tight deadline from our FGSR office to complete my thesis.
1501 792 Vijay Kumar
1502
---
1503
1504 787 Garth Huber
h3. April 18, 2024
1505
1506
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24apr18.txt
1507 791 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1508 790 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_18_24.pdf
1509
** I am confident that the output of recon_hcana and data match fairly well and that iterations are the next step to optimize this.
1510 787 Garth Huber
1511 788 Garth Huber
---
1512
1513 779 Vijay Kumar
h3. April 11, 2024
1514
1515 786 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24apr11.txt
1516 781 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1517
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_11_24.pdf
1518
** Mismatch between xptar for data/simc has been resolved by removing RF cut. Offset in t-distribution for data/simc has been resolved by fixing an error in recon_hcana (wrong mass used in detected particle calculation). Fixes to iterations, ongoing.
1519 1 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
1520 786 Garth Huber
** Extracted preliminary Sig_L and Sig_T cross-sections
1521 779 Vijay Kumar
** Working to improve the extracted cross-sections. attachment:Vijay_April_11_2024.pdf
1522 782 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1523 785 Abdennacer Hamdi
** Final cuts optimized for kaon events selection, detail attachment:20240411_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1524 779 Vijay Kumar
1525 788 Garth Huber
---
1526
1527 774 Nathan Heinrich
h3. April 4, 2024
1528
1529 777 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24apr04.txt
1530 774 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
1531
** Update on Lumi, working on set of Lumi data that has BCM calibrated
1532 775 Nathan Heinrich
** Found that we'll need zero current offset and that there were offsets already applied: attachment:lumiUpdate2024-04-04.pdf
1533 774 Nathan Heinrich
*** Full set of plots: attachment:Yield_9-2pt1Carbon.pdf attachment:Yield_9-2pt1Carbon.pdf
1534 776 Ali Usman
* Ali
1535
** Update on pi-Delta BSA analysis. Plots include missing shape study and asymmetry for Q2 = 3.0, W = 3.14 (low t).
1536
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Apr_4_2024.pdf
1537 778 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
1538
** Finalizing asymmetry results after error meeting
1539
** attachment:AsymmetryErrors2.pdf
1540 788 Garth Huber
1541 774 Nathan Heinrich
---
1542
1543 770 Garth Huber
h3. April 2, 2024
1544
1545
* Special meeting to discuss BSA uncertainties
1546
* Garth's Notes attachment:bsa_24apr02.txt
1547 771 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia's slides attachment:Asym_errors.pdf
1548 770 Garth Huber
1549
---
1550
1551 754 Richard Trotta
h3. March 28, 2024
1552
1553 767 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24mar28.txt
1554 754 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1555
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_28_24.pdf
1556
** SHMS xptar had an odd distribution. Upon further inspection, the RF cut was the cause. There is a correlation between xptar and the RF which must have a path length correction. For KaonLT data (>Q2=0.5), the RF will no longer be used.
1557 756 Abdennacer Hamdi
* Nacer
1558 767 Garth Huber
** The RF time cut is the most efficient event selection among PID cuts, particularly to select kaons (lambda peak) and suppress pions (neutron peak) for 3.8 GeV and 4.9 GeV kaon LT data, see attachment:20240328_kaonLT_event_selection_nacer.pdf
1559 768 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
1560
** Updated asymmetry plots: attachment:Asym_Postuma_Mar28.pdf
1561 772 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1562
** Made HeePCoin plots for offset studies.
1563
** attachment:HeePCoin_Offset_Study.pdf
1564 773 Muhammad Junaid
1565 788 Garth Huber
---
1566 754 Richard Trotta
1567 748 Nathan Heinrich
h3. March 21, 2024
1568
1569 753 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24mar21.txt
1570 748 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
1571 750 Nathan Heinrich
** Got lumi script running. Initial plots of lumi: attachment:Yield_9-2C.pdf
1572 749 Nathan Heinrich
** Still need to do alot of bug fixing
1573 751 Ali Usman
* Ali
1574
** Update on pi-delta BSA analysis.
1575 752 Ali Usman
** A comparison b/w SIDIS and RHO is done to see which one fits the data better. SIDIS wins the race since RHO results in a bad fit.
1576 751 Ali Usman
** Will be able to do 2 t-bins for higher statistic data (Q2 = 3.0, W = 3.14)
1577
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Mar_21_2024.pdf
1578 769 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
1579
** Implemented delta correction in hcana: attachment:Asym_Postuma_Mar21.pdf
1580 748 Nathan Heinrich
1581
---
1582
1583 736 Vijay Kumar
h3. March 14, 2024
1584
1585 740 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24mar14.txt
1586 736 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1587
** Good news, got all yield ratio plots correct.
1588
** Got an Unseparated cross-section.
1589
** Got a Separated cross-section.
1590 737 Vijay Kumar
** Excited to have the first LT sep plots today. attachment:Vijay_update_Mar14_24.pdf
1591 743 Ali Usman
* Alicia
1592 741 Alicia Postuma
** Missing mass cut values for asymmetry: MMpi<1.01+/-0.02
1593
** Determined reasonable delta correction
1594
** Trying to compile hcana to implement delta correction there
1595
** attachment:Asym_Mar14.pdf
1596 743 Ali Usman
* Ali
1597 745 Ali Usman
** Preliminary plot for pi-Delta MM shape study (Q2 = 3.0, W = 3.14 center). This includes all the MC with new resolution factor.
1598 742 Ali Usman
** attachment:Q3p0W3p14center_pos.pdf
1599 746 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1600
** Updated ltsep package for PionLT
1601
** Added ngcer variables to ltsep package.
1602
** Updated RF offset for HeePCoin PionLT data
1603
** Updated HeeP Coin scripts.
1604
** Finalized HeePCoin PID cuts.
1605
** attachment:HeePCoin_PID_Study.pdf
1606 788 Garth Huber
1607
---
1608 736 Vijay Kumar
1609 721 Nathan Heinrich
h3. March 7, 2024
1610 722 Nathan Heinrich
1611 725 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24mar07.txt
1612 723 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
1613 1 Richard Trotta
** Made Quick PID efficiency plots for SHMS NIM paper. Found HGC zero bin entries still an issue. "NIMpaperPidPlots.pdf":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2394 
1614 722 Nathan Heinrich
** Without zero bin cut: "SHMS_Pion_PIDeffPlots_16504.pdf":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2395 with zero cut: "SHMS_Pion_PIDeffPlots_16504_v2.pdf":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2396
1615 724 Richard Trotta
** Lumi without zero bin cut: "SHMS_Electron_PIDeffPlots_16759.pdf":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2397
1616
* Richard
1617
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_7_24.pdf
1618
** Fixed issue with shrinking xsect on each iteration. The issue was a mistake in absolute error being mistaken for relative error when calculating xsect error.\
1619
** Pion subtraction implemented with not much change in xsect beyond lowest t-bins. Smaller t-bins see a 50% reduction with MM cut
1620
** Iteration script works, now just trying to find best parameterization. Particularly for Q2=3.0, W=2.32 where eps_low>eps_hi
1621 742 Ali Usman
* Ali
1622
** SIMC resolution study is complete. The final resolution factor for SHMS DC is 3.5.
1623
** Good agreement between data and MC in each t-bin. Higher Q2 data has better agreement.
1624
** Also checked target quantities with and without resolution tunning. No issues in reconstruction with resultion tunning.
1625
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Feb_15_2024.pdf
1626 722 Nathan Heinrich
1627
---
1628 721 Nathan Heinrich
1629 713 Vijay Kumar
h3. February 29, 2024
1630 1 Richard Trotta
1631 715 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24feb29.txt
1632 714 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1633
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting2_29_24.pdf
1634
** Issue with iteration script where cross section error decreases with each iteration. Still being investigated
1635
** Unseparated cross-section plots are coming along; still work to be done on improving them.
1636
** Interesting sigL/T vs t behavior with lower W values (very tentative)
1637 713 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay 
1638 716 Garth Huber
** I found an interesting plot of pion and kaon form factors at high Q2 from lattice QCD in the ICTS workshop. The speaker of the talk was Swagato Mukherjee (BNL).  
1639 713 Vijay Kumar
 attachment:Lattice_form_factor.pdf
1640 717 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
1641
** Update on delta correction to missing mass: not necessary in every setting
1642
** Need to determine exactly what correction to apply for HMS momentum > 5.0
1643
** attachment:Postuma_MissMass_Feb29.pdf
1644 726 Garth Huber
* Nacer
1645
** Tracking efficiency quality check finalized for 3.8 GeV and 4.9 GeV data, and the corresponding run lists are updates see the talk attachment:20240229_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1646 730 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1647
** Selected 9 HeeP Coin settings out of 15 to do HeeP Studies
1648 732 Muhammad Junaid
** Prioritize on the basis of physics momentums and angles settings
1649 730 Muhammad Junaid
** attachment:HeeP_Studies_PionLT.pdf
1650 713 Vijay Kumar
1651 789 Garth Huber
---
1652
1653 711 Richard Trotta
h3. February 22, 2024
1654
1655 712 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24feb22.txt
1656 711 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1657
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting2_22_24.pdf
1658
** Model cross-sections were compared for most of the Q2s. There were several iterations which included a +0.2 term to the t-dependence of sigL. sigT now used the model from Tanja's "global analysis":https://journals.aps.org/prc/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevC.85.018202 which is coming along. Pion subtraction still needs to be incorporated and things should improve further from there.
1659 718 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
1660
** Still trying to implement delta correction to missing mass
1661
** attachment:Postuma_MissMass_Feb22.pdf
1662 735 Muhammad Junaid
* Junaid
1663
** Updated DEF file (Included NGC variables)
1664
** Updated DEF-Cut files for HeeP, Lumi, Prod and pTRIG6 data (Included ngcer cuts).
1665
** Generated BCM currents for PionLT data.
1666
** Replayed PionLT data Pass1_v2 (included BCM current params)
1667
** Finalized Tracking Efficiencies for PionLT data (HeeP, Lumi, Prod and pTRIG6) - Removed outliers
1668
** attachment:Efficiency_Studies_PionLT.pdf
1669 789 Garth Huber
1670
---
1671 711 Richard Trotta
1672 704 Richard Trotta
h3. February 15, 2024
1673
1674 705 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24feb15.txt
1675 707 Garth Huber
* Garth's GitHub meeting Notes attachment:GitHub_mtg_24feb14.txt
1676 704 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1677
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting2_15_24.pdf attachment:dsig_totstaterror_calc.pdf
1678
** Properly Calculated Statistical Uncertainties
1679
*** Ali and I went through and properly implemented statistical uncertainties (double-checked with Garth on Monday). This included updating HMS cerenkov and calorimeter efficiencies that needed to use a "golden singles run" to avoid contamination. A bug in the ratio per bin was fixed so that proper average ratio per bins were found.
1680
** SIMC Aerogel/HGCer geometric cuts were implemented.
1681
** Particle Subtraction Script was updated. Just need pion samples from Ali.
1682
** Beginning Unsep-xsect Systematic Studies
1683
** Continued issues with generating new parameterization
1684
*** Unsep xsect fits are starting to look good, but the script to generate improved parameterization generates insane fits. Likely a change to the model is needed. In particular, sigT will need adjustments.
1685 708 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
1686
** Summary of next steps in asymmetry analysis
1687
** Discussion of missing mass using delta correction: unable to reproduce hcana MMpi - learned that this is expected. Will implement a version of Richard's code from recon_hcana 
1688
** Exploring -t dependence of different data and simc files
1689
** Slides: attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_2024-1.pdf
1690 704 Richard Trotta
1691 709 Ali Usman
* Ali
1692
** Update on the SIMC resolution study for Kaon-LT 10.6 GeV data.
1693
** SIMC SHMS DC resolution was tunned to have better agreement b/w data nnd MC. A large resolution multiplication factor of 9 is used. This will hopefully decrease with improvement in data resolution.
1694
** SIMC HMS DC resolution (suggested by Dave G.) doesn't make a huge difference.
1695 710 Ali Usman
** The resolution of MC looked worse than data after t-bining. This will be improved with a lower multiplication factor.
1696 709 Ali Usman
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Feb_15_2024.pdf
1697
1698 704 Richard Trotta
---
1699
1700 702 Richard Trotta
h3. February 8, 2024
1701
1702 703 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24feb08.txt
1703 702 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1704
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting2_8_24.pdf
1705
** SIMC Weight
1706
*** In order to get Ydata/Ysimc to be even close to unity I needed to divide the SIMC weight by 10^6. I was applying the weight for the histograms but not binned data. 
1707
** SIMC MM
1708
*** The long radiative tail from simc MM has mostly been resolved by using the correct decay length and properly recalculating the MM using recon_hcana.
1709
** MM PID Analysis
1710
*** Played around with MM cuts to see PID of leak through/higher K+ channels.
1711
*** Increasing aerogel cut from aero > 3.0 to > 4.5 should resolve some of the issues, but more probably needs to be done.
1712
** MM cut: Yield Comparison
1713
*** Using an MM cut of 1.10 < MM < 1.18 produced shockingly consistent yields for Q2=2.115
1714
1715
---
1716
1717 700 Richard Trotta
h3. February 1, 2024
1718
1719 701 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24feb01.txt
1720 700 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1721
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting2_1_24.pdf
1722
** Daveโ€™s Delta Adjustments
1723
*** Dave's adjustment to HMS delta to correct for the hsxpfp correlation is implimented.
1724
** The weight iteration script is working, but there is an issue with either the SIMC weight or unit charge which is causing me to include a 10^-6 factor in the SIMC weight which messes up the rest of the iteration scripts.
1725
1726
---
1727
1728 696 Richard Trotta
h3. January 25, 2024
1729
1730 697 Garth Huber
* Garth/Richard Notes attachment:mtg_24jan25.txt
1731 696 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1732
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting1_24_24.pdf
1733
** Issues with dummy runs
1734
*** The dtype error for some dummy runs was caused by empty trees when applying the CT cuts.
1735
*** The source of these fails cuts was because the CT offset applied at the replay level was skipped for these runs and thus the CT peak was not where the cut expected.
1736
** Weird t-distribution
1737
*** Multiple peaks seen in the t-distribution were caused by various particle leakthrough.
1738
*** This was cleaned up a bit by implimenting a HMS cer cut > 1.5, but there are still significant particles that need to be cleaned up.
1739
** Fixed binning issue
1740
*** Issue with the binning script was causing many average kin per bin values to be zero. 
1741
*** The scripts were completely rewritten and things look very nice now.
1742
** Separated Xsects Script
1743
*** Finished debugging the script that separates the cross section. 
1744
*** The binning issue was hiding other FORTRAN related issues, in particular, with the input files that are generated.
1745
** SIMC MM
1746
*** Very broad and long tail on kaon MM generated by SIMC. Still under investigation.
1747
** SIMC High Q2
1748
*** There were negative MM and other variables being generated by SIMC for high Q2 settings.
1749
*** Likely caused by sigT going negative. By setting some of sigT's parameterization to zero, the issue should be resolved. Still under investigation.
1750 698 Garth Huber
* Dave
1751
** HMS delta-hsxpfp correction for KaonLT data 
1752
** attachment:DG_24jan25_hms_hsxpfp.pdf
1753 699 Garth Huber
1754 696 Richard Trotta
---
1755
1756 1 Richard Trotta
h3. January 11, 2024
1757
1758 690 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24jan11.txt
1759 694 Garth Huber
* Garth's GitHub meeting Notes  attachment:GitHub_mtg_24jan10.txt
1760 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1761
** attachment:D1_2024WinterHallCTalk.pdf
1762
** Most bad runs (i.e. those replays/analysis files that failed for various regions) for Q2=2.1 have been properly run. There are still a few outstanding runs that need to be further investigated.
1763
** Equations for the xsect iteration script have been properly adjusted to match those found in the fortran script of SIMC (physics_iterate.f).
1764
** Testing with Q2=2.1 is underway with a minor bug with efficiency calculation that needs to be resolved. Once this is done, this setting will test the xsects iteration and separated xsects scripts.
1765 692 Garth Huber
* Dave 
1766 695 Garth Huber
** HMS delta-hsxpfp correction for P_HMS=5.292GeV/c  attachment:DG_24jan11_hms_hsxpfp.pptx attachment:DG_24jan11_hms_hsxpfp.pdf
1767 689 Richard Trotta
1768
---
1769
1770
h3. January 4, 2024
1771
1772 693 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_24jan04.txt
1773 689 Richard Trotta
* Nacer: beta SHMS calibration attachment:20240104_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1774 688 Richard Trotta
1775
---
1776
1777 683 Garth Huber
h2. 2023 Meetings
1778
1779
---
1780
1781 678 Vijay Kumar
h3. December 21, 2023
1782 666 Vijay Kumar
1783 681 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23dec21.txt
1784 680 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1785
** attachment:FinalHeepOffsets_v3.pdf
1786
*** Updated heep plots without HGCer cuts, very small change (order of ~0.1 MeV). Also updated with almost final efficiencies (missing Hodo uncern).
1787
** attachment:10p6_Prod_2023_12_18.pdf attachment:8p2_Prod_2023_12_18.pdf attachment:6p2_Prod_2023_12_18.pdf attachment:4p9_Prod_2023_12_18.pdf attachment:3p8_Prod_2023_12_18.pdf
1788
*** Plots of efficiencies per energy.
1789
** attachment:heep_yield.pdf
1790 682 Vijay Kumar
*** Heep yield plots without uncertainty. Statistical uncertainty is done, but systematic needs to be finished.
1791 677 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay (updated on Dec 27, 2023 (Heep plot))
1792 679 Vijay Kumar
** The final summary of the lumi and elastic studies in summer 2019 data. attachment:PionLT_Smmer19_Lumi_elastic_Studies_Dec21_2023.pdf
1793 677 Vijay Kumar
** Next Plan: Physics analysis (LT separation) for Q2 = 0.38 GeV2 in the summer 2019 data.
1794
1795
---
1796
1797
h3. December 14, 2023
1798
1799 675 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23dec14.txt
1800 666 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1801
** The summary of lumi and elastic studies in summer 2019 data.
1802
** Carbon Relative Yield: shows a flat line with the -0.243/100uA% slope.
1803
** LH2 Relative Yield: shows a slope of -5.06/100uA%.
1804
** Average Elastic Cross-Section: determined to 0.9915+-0.0136. 
1805 669 Vijay Kumar
** I've compared the study with previous ones. attachment:PionLT_Smmer19_Lumi_elastic_Studies.pdf
1806 672 Vijay Kumar
** Next plan: Replay the physics data with determined offsets for the physics analysis. 
1807 676 Garth Huber
* Nacer: beta SHMS calibration attachment:20231214_kaonLT_nacer.pdf
1808 670 Vijay Kumar
1809 666 Vijay Kumar
---
1810
1811 662 Richard Trotta
h3. December 7, 2023
1812
1813 665 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23dec07.txt
1814 662 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1815
** attachment:FinalHeepOffsets_v2.pdf
1816 664 Richard Trotta
** No Offsets: "10p6":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2266 "8p2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2262 "6p2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2263 "4p9":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2264 "3p8":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2265
1817
** Offsets: "10p6":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2261 "8p2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2257 "6p2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2258 "4p9":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2259 "3p8":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2260
1818 663 Richard Trotta
** There was an oversight in the BPM params and they were not pushed to the proper git repo. The offsets had to be redone and the new final offsets are implimented.
1819
** Full Replay Pass 3 is underway.
1820 662 Richard Trotta
1821
---
1822
1823 657 Nathan Heinrich
h3. November 30, 2023
1824
1825 661 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23nov30.txt
1826 657 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
1827
** Update on Coin Reference time cuts: attachment:RefTimes_Update_2023-11-30.pdf
1828 658 Richard Trotta
** Cuts decided, quality checks on data and implementation to be done
1829
* Richard
1830 660 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLT_FinalHeepOffsets.pdf
1831 658 Richard Trotta
** Finalized KaonLT Offsets (including OOP)
1832
** In the process of including new offsets in a new replay batch. Should be finished by the end of the weekend.
1833 657 Nathan Heinrich
1834
---
1835
1836 644 Ali Usman
h3. November 16, 2023
1837 647 Vijay Kumar
1838 653 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23nov16.txt
1839 644 Ali Usman
* Ali
1840
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Nov_16_2023.pdf
1841
** CoinTime / Beta Leakage Study is now finished. Mark's suggestion to change ptof_tolerance variable from 100 to 2 has fixed the bad beta events. The efficiency for 10.6 and 6.2 / 8.2 GeV Heep dta is almost identical. No need to correct for bad beta / CoinTime events.
1842 648 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1843
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting11_16_23.pdf
1844
** Fixing the SHMS momentum offset and playing around with some decent offsets for all energies besides 10p6. Final numbers are being determined.
1845 649 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1846
** The 'Out of Plane offset' for the summer 2019 data has been comprehensively examined and verified. 
1847
** It has proven to be highly effective in addressing the pmy variables of the summer 2019 dataset. attachment:Heep_pmy_summer19_offset.pdf
1848 650 Vijay Kumar
1849 644 Ali Usman
---
1850 646 Vijay Kumar
1851 640 Garth Huber
h3. November 9, 2003
1852
1853
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23nov09.txt
1854
* Richard
1855 641 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting11_9_23.pdf
1856
** A variety of heep offsets were applied, provided by Garth's global results. It is shown that adapting the 5 beam energy global offsets with varying the SHMS momentum offset allows for the best emiss peak positions.
1857
** OOP offsets are also looked at, but there is an obvious issue with their implementation that needs to be resolved.
1858 654 Garth Huber
* Garth
1859 655 Garth Huber
** PMY fit to determine OOP offsets, for 3 different sets of beam energies attachment:offset_pmy2c.pdf
1860 656 Garth Huber
1861 640 Garth Huber
---
1862
1863 636 Richard Trotta
h3. November 2, 2023
1864
1865 638 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23nov02.txt
1866 636 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1867 637 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting11_2_23.pdf
1868 636 Richard Trotta
** Garth's global high energy offsets were applied. There is a shift in emiss with dpp offset of -0.1%
1869
1870
---
1871
1872 642 Garth Huber
h3. October 24, 2023
1873
1874 643 Garth Huber
* Richard/Tanja/Dave Notes attachment:mtg_23oct24.txt
1875 639 Garth Huber
1876
---
1877
1878 627 Vijay Kumar
h3. October 17, 2023
1879
1880 635 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23oct17.txt
1881 631 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1882 632 Richard Trotta
** "kaon_xsects_Q2p1W2p95":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2210
1883
** By setting the parameters for the interference terms to zero, the spike in data between 220-300 deg has been removed, and all ratios are within ~10. The weight iteration script is being debugged and thoroughly checked.
1884 627 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1885
** The testing of global fitting parameters (offsets) for the summer 2019 data (Garth study) has been completed. 
1886 630 Vijay Kumar
** It has been determined that employing a single set of offsets for all energies within the summer 2019 dataset does not adequately address all variables.
1887 629 Vijay Kumar
** Nonetheless, the W variable exhibits a strong agreement with the SIMC for energies of 2.7 and 4.5 GeV. However, at 3.6 GeV, a slight over-correction is observed.
1888 627 Vijay Kumar
** attachment:Vijay_Oct17_23.pdf
1889
1890
---
1891
1892 633 Richard Trotta
h3. October 16, 2023
1893
1894 634 Richard Trotta
* "Notes from Cointime Leakage Meeting":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2211
1895 633 Richard Trotta
** Attendance: Alicia P., Ali U., Garth H., Richard T.
1896
1897
---
1898
1899 623 Richard Trotta
h3. October 10, 2023
1900
1901 626 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23oct10.txt
1902 623 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1903 624 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting10_10_23.pdf
1904 625 Richard Trotta
** As expected, the bifurcation seen in the CT vs beta (E=10.6) is almost non-existent when kaon PID cuts are applied. This is likely due to the lower statistics compared to what Alicia showed with pion PID. A correction should be applied regardless which will determined by the pion data.
1905 623 Richard Trotta
1906
---
1907
1908 620 Richard Trotta
h3. October 3, 2023
1909
1910 622 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer/Richard Notes attachment:mtg_23oct03.txt
1911 620 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1912
** attachment:kaon_xsects_Q2p1W2p95.pdf
1913 621 Richard Trotta
** There are some issues with the Right SIMC setting returning zeros, which is part of the cause of the odd values. This is still being debugged, it is unclear if this is a binning or simc issue.
1914 622 Garth Huber
* Plots from post-meeting on CoinTime "leakage"
1915
** attachment:cointime_mmpi_10p6.pdf
1916
** attachment:heep_coin_time_10p6.pdf
1917
** attachment:ctime_vs_beta.pdf
1918
** attachment:cointime_beta_10p6.pdf
1919 613 Richard Trotta
1920
---
1921
1922
h3. September 26, 2023
1923
1924 617 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23sep26.txt
1925 613 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1926
** attachment:kaon_unsep_xsects_Q2p1W2p95.pdf
1927
** Fixed issues with the binning. Adapting parameter optimization code for iterating weights of SIMC
1928
** Ratio for low eps of 2.1 looks good (all within 0.1-2.0), but high eps is all over the place.
1929 614 Garth Huber
* Alicia
1930 618 Alicia Postuma
** Explored coin time: interesting feature depends on missing mass
1931
** attachment:log_ctime.pdf dark blue: no MM cut, green: loose MM cut, red: tight MM cut
1932
** attachment:mmcointime.pdf 2D plot of coin time vs MM
1933 613 Richard Trotta
1934 491 Vijay Kumar
---
1935
1936 612 Garth Huber
h3. September 19, 2023
1937
1938 617 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23sep19.txt
1939 619 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
1940
** Finalizing asymmetry analysis: three unresolved questions on PID/event selection
1941
** attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_Sep16.pdf
1942 612 Garth Huber
1943
---
1944
1945 609 Garth Huber
h3. September 12, 2023
1946
1947 617 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23sep12.txt
1948 611 Garth Huber
* Follow-up meeting on LTsep procedure attachment:LTsep_mtg_23sep13.txt
1949 609 Garth Huber
1950
---
1951
1952 605 Vijay Kumar
h3. September 07, 2023
1953
1954 616 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23sep07.txt
1955 1 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
1956 606 Garth Huber
** SHMS hodoscope individual bar efficiency (pion) studied (Efficiency vs Run Number and Efficiency vs Coin trigger Rate) for all the production Runs. attachment:Vijay_Sep07_2023.pdf
1957
* Richard
1958 607 Richard Trotta
** "HMS Current Carbon":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2118
1959
** "HMS Current LH2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2119
1960
** Finalized slopes for luminosity analysis from linear regression of HMS electron data from carbon and LH2. Carbon is flat (m0=1.688e-05ยฑ4.305e-04) and LH2 has a slope of ~8%+/-2% (m0=-7.899e-04ยฑ1.829e-04)
1961 608 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
1962
** Preliminary Q2 scan: attachment:Scan_prelim.pdf
1963 605 Vijay Kumar
1964
---
1965
1966 600 Richard Trotta
h3. August 31, 2023
1967
1968 603 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23aug31.txt
1969 600 Richard Trotta
* Richard
1970
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting8_31_23.pdf
1971 602 Richard Trotta
** "Regression HMS carbon current":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2072
1972
** "Regression HMS carbon rate":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2074
1973
** "Regression HMS LH2 current":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2071
1974
** "Regression HMS LH2 rate":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2073
1975
** "Regression SHMS carbon current":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2075
1976
** "Regression SHMS carbon rate":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2076
1977
** "Regression SHMS LH2 current":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2077
1978
** "Regression SHMS LH2 rate":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2078
1979 600 Richard Trotta
** Luminosity analysis is finally complete. Results are consistent with Carlos Yero!
1980 604 Garth Huber
* Alicia
1981 608 Alicia Postuma
** Binning Monte Carlo: attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_BinMC2.pdf
1982 604 Garth Huber
* Garth
1983
** In-plane offset global constrained fit attachment:results_summary_23aug28.txt
1984
** Out-of-plane offset plot attachment:offset_oop.pdf
1985 600 Richard Trotta
1986
---
1987
1988 595 Vijay Kumar
h3. August 24, 2023
1989
1990 599 Garth Huber
* Garth/Nacer Notes attachment:mtg_23aug24.txt
1991 595 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
1992 598 Vijay Kumar
** All efficiencies for the PionLT summer 2019 data, that are required for the cross-section study, have been studied. attachment:Vijay_update_Aug24_2023.pdf
1993 596 Vijay Kumar
** Starting soon the elastic cross-section study for the finalization.
1994 595 Vijay Kumar
1995
1996
---
1997
1998 591 Garth Huber
h3. August 17, 2023
1999
2000
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23aug17.txt
2001 593 Garth Huber
* Alicia
2002 592 Alicia Postuma
** Several updates: pi-delta BSA and binning for pi-neutron analysis
2003
** attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_PiDelta.pdf
2004
** attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_Binning2.pdf
2005
** Also discussion of error analysis: will use unsimplified version of asymmetry error.
2006 594 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
2007
** Slides from conlsion of hgcer calibration https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2063
2008 591 Garth Huber
2009
---
2010
2011 589 Richard Trotta
h3. August 10, 2023
2012 1 Richard Trotta
2013 590 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23aug10.txt
2014 589 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2015
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting8_10_23.pdf
2016
** t/phi binning of kinematics is looking a bit odd. The procedure is broken down here.
2017 592 Alicia Postuma
* Alicia
2018
** Working on binning data for pi-neutron asymmetry
2019
** attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_Binning1.pdf
2020 589 Richard Trotta
2021
---
2022
2023 588 Garth Huber
h3. July 27, 2023
2024
2025
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23jul27.txt
2026
2027
---
2028
2029 581 Vijay Kumar
h3. July 20, 2023
2030
2031 587 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23jul20.txt
2032 581 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
2033
** The HMS calorimeter efficiency study is completed from all the โ€˜Heep coin dataโ€™ (3 beam energy) of the summer 2019 run period. attachment:Vijay_July20_2023.pdf
2034 584 Vijay Kumar
** The final number of this is *{color:green}@0.9979 ยฑ 4.004e-05@*.  
2035 585 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2036 586 Richard Trotta
** "kaon_FullAnalysis_Q5p5W3p02_lowe":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2028 "kaon_FullAnalysis_Q5p5W3p02_highe_no_hgcer_cut":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2030 "kaon_FullAnalysis_Q5p5W3p02_highe":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2029
2037 585 Richard Trotta
** Peter's kaon PID suggestions are implemented, and the samples are almost there. These include aero>4, RF>+/-0.5, hgcer hole cut. Note: these are with just the spring hole cut (for testing). The proper fall hole cut will be added soon.
2038 581 Vijay Kumar
2039
---
2040
2041 580 Garth Huber
h3. July 13, 2023
2042
2043
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23jul13.txt
2044
2045
---
2046
2047 577 Garth Huber
h3. July 6, 2023
2048
2049
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23jul06.txt
2050 578 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
2051 582 Vijay Kumar
** The HMS Calorimeter efficiency study from all the production data at Q2 = 0.38 GeV. attachment:Vijay_July6_2023.pdf
2052 577 Garth Huber
2053
---
2054
2055 570 Richard Trotta
h3. June 28, 2023
2056
2057 573 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23jun28.txt
2058 576 Garth Huber
* Richard's Notes from meeting with Peter attachment:peter_mtg_23jun25.txt
2059 572 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
2060
** EDTM Live Time testing for the Lumi study from summer 2019 data is done.
2061
** attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting_Jun28_2023.pdf
2062 570 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2063
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_28_23.pdf
2064
** Incorporated Peter (and other's) bcm correction. Some things look better, but there are issues with some TLT values, which is throwing yields off. 
2065
2066
---
2067
2068 569 Garth Huber
h3. June 22, 2023
2069 568 Richard Trotta
2070
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23jun22.txt
2071 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2072 570 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_22_23.pdf
2073
** Adjusted aerogel cut for kaons to 3.0 from 1.5 because of a suggestion by Peter. This eliminates a bit more protons that slip through.
2074 568 Richard Trotta
2075
---
2076 562 Richard Trotta
2077 574 Garth Huber
h3. June 15, 2023
2078
2079
* Dave's Notes attachment:mtg_23jun15.txt
2080
2081
---
2082
2083 562 Richard Trotta
h3. June 8, 2023
2084 1 Richard Trotta
2085
* Dave's Notes attachment:mtg_23jun08.txt
2086 566 Nathan Heinrich
* Richard
2087 565 Garth Huber
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_8_23.pdf
2088 562 Richard Trotta
** Linear regression for production also includes higher rates (>1kHz) and things still look fine.
2089
** LH2 needs cuts to be adjusted, things are pretty off for now. 
2090
* Alicia
2091
** attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_Updates_2023.pdf
2092 567 Nathan Heinrich
** Errors, models for BSA analysis
2093
* Nathan
2094
** Finished Noble gas calibration attachment:CalibUpdate_2023-06-15.pdf
2095 563 Alicia Postuma
** Uploaded slides from previous update, with a few extra plots that I had 
2096 562 Richard Trotta
2097
---
2098 561 Richard Trotta
2099
h3. June 1, 2023
2100 564 Garth Huber
2101 561 Richard Trotta
* Dave's Notes attachment:mtg_23jun01.txt
2102
* Richard
2103
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_1_23.pdf
2104
** Linear regression for coincidence runs were compared to the singles luminosity runs. The slope for the coincidence is approximately an order of magnitude better than the singles.
2105
2106
---
2107 551 Vijay Kumar
2108
h3. May 25, 2023
2109 555 Garth Huber
2110 551 Vijay Kumar
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23may25.txt
2111 552 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
2112 553 Vijay Kumar
** HMS Calorimeter efficiency study at Q2 = 0.38 GeV2, for all production and heep coin data. attachment:Vijay_May25_2023.pdf
2113 551 Vijay Kumar
** We discussed in our group meeting that it should be ok to take error weighted average of all the heep coin data and then correct the production data. 
2114 559 Alicia Postuma
2115
* Alicia
2116
** Missing mass by bins - added delta: attachment:mm_simcdata2.pdf
2117 551 Vijay Kumar
2118
---
2119 544 Vijay Kumar
2120 550 Garth Huber
h3. May 18, 2023
2121 549 Garth Huber
2122 548 Richard Trotta
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23may18.txt
2123
* Ali
2124
** Out of Plane offset study from KaonLT Heep Coindata using Tanja's method.
2125 544 Vijay Kumar
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_May_18.pdf
2126
* Vijay
2127 546 Vijay Kumar
** Raster checks of the summer 2019 data. attachment:Raster_check_summer19.pdf
2128 547 Ali Usman
** I checked the Raster for the summer 2019 data. It looks ok to me. I did not see any slightly tilting issues that Ali saw earlier.
2129
** I do not think that we will need to make any changes to the Raster in the summer 2019 data. 
2130 548 Richard Trotta
** Please check the attached file and let me know if you have any concerns of the study. 
2131
* Richard
2132
** attachment:hms_regression_current_carbon.pdf ,attachment:hms_regression_rate_carbon.pdf , attachment:shms_regression_current_carbon.pdf , attachment:shms_regression_rate_carbon.pdf
2133 547 Ali Usman
** I did a least square linear regression on all the luminosity data. There is a good consistency between all data settings and even HMS and SHMS.
2134 544 Vijay Kumar
2135
---
2136 538 Vijay Kumar
2137
h3. May 11, 2023
2138 543 Garth Huber
2139 541 Richard Trotta
* Dave's Notes attachment:mtg_23may11.txt
2140 539 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2141
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_11_23.pdf
2142 538 Vijay Kumar
** Carlos and I found the error in the HMS scaler rate and slope. I was previously doing some testing of ELREAL vs ELCLEAN and I never reverted my testing from ELCLEAN. Once I changed the variable back to ELREAL, the rates and trends match.
2143
* Vijay
2144
** HMS Calorimeter efficiency study. attachment:Vijay_May11_2023.pdf
2145
** It looks like the efficiency is less from the production data (Q2 = 0.38 GeV2, High e).
2146
** I'll take a look at the heep coin data in this run period of the experiment and get the efficiency. 
2147 547 Ali Usman
** Hopefully that's number, the efficiency from heep coin data, will be reliable to correct the inefficiency of the detector and correct the data run by run.
2148
2149
* Ali
2150
** Raster Y sign test. Original sign was working fine.
2151 1 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_May_11.pdf
2152 558 Alicia Postuma
2153
* Alicia
2154 560 Alicia Postuma
** Updates on BSA analysis
2155 558 Alicia Postuma
** attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_May1.pdf
2156 538 Vijay Kumar
2157
---
2158 535 Richard Trotta
2159
h3. May 4, 2023
2160 536 Garth Huber
2161 535 Richard Trotta
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23may04.txt
2162
* Richard
2163
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_4_23.pdf
2164
** Most of the bad runs have been resolved although there are still a few issues I am sorting out. I also have some plots of the boiling corrections that need to be updated.
2165
** I talked with Jacob last week and he checked my luminosity calculations and they seem fine. Carlos and I are meeting tomorrow at 11 am to try and figure out our discrepancies.
2166 557 Alicia Postuma
** Found a possible cut issue with the proton peak where cuts were not being properly applied. This is still early in checks.
2167
2168
* Ali
2169
** BPM calibration check. Using new file for Spring 2019 data.
2170 559 Alicia Postuma
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_May_4.pdf
2171
2172
* Alicia
2173 535 Richard Trotta
** Missing mass by bins - added SIMC: attachment:mm_simcdata1.pdf
2174
2175
---
2176 532 Vijay Kumar
2177
h3. April 27, 2023
2178 534 Garth Huber
2179 532 Vijay Kumar
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_23apr27.txt
2180 533 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
2181
** Updates of the analysis are attached. attachment:Vijay_Apr27_2023.pdf
2182
* Richard
2183
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_27_23.pdf
2184
** There are still issues with the TLT for some carbon lumi runs. Jacob and I are meeting tomorrow to discuss things.
2185 532 Vijay Kumar
** Pion subtraction have improved things a lot, but there seems to be issues with the proton subtraction. Adjusted cuts are rerunning and will hopefully help.
2186
 
2187
---
2188 529 Garth Huber
2189
h3. April 20, 2023
2190
2191 530 Nathan Heinrich
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_23apr20.txt
2192
* Nathan - Presented updates on the aerogel calibration. attachment:AerogelCalib_2023-04-20.pdf
2193 531 Nathan Heinrich
** looks like the calibration has significantly improved the separation between signal and zeros.
2194 529 Garth Huber
** for completeness here are all the presentations that Petr gave on the aerogel calibration. attachment:presentation-2020-09-23-kaonlt.pdf attachment:presentation-2020-09-23-kaonlt-summary.pdf
2195
2196
---
2197 523 Ali Usman
2198 1 Richard Trotta
h3. April 13, 2023
2199 528 Garth Huber
2200 524 Vijay Kumar
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23apr13.txt
2201
* Vijay
2202 523 Ali Usman
** The details of the update are attached here. attachment:Vijay_Apr13_2023.pdf
2203
* Ali
2204
** Pion PID study for high Q2 KaonLT data.
2205
** Spring 2019 data (low e) attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Apr_13.pdf
2206
2207
---
2208 519 Richard Trotta
2209 514 Vijay Kumar
h3. April 6, 2023
2210 527 Garth Huber
2211 517 Richard Trotta
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_23apr06.txt
2212
* Richard
2213 518 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_6_23.pdf
2214
** "10p6 c #1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1841 "10p6 LH2 #1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1843
2215
** "10p6 c #2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1840 "10p6 LH2 #2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1844
2216
** "10p6 c #3":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1842 "10p6 LH2 #3":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1845
2217 517 Richard Trotta
** "8p2 c #1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1838 "8p2 LH2 #1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1839
2218 521 Richard Trotta
** Luminosity plots are looking pretty good for LH2 and Carbon. There are a few runs with really bad TLT that need to be resolved.
2219 517 Richard Trotta
** I still need to meet with Carlos to figure out HMS scaler issue.
2220
** In the process of subtracting proton events from MM for kaon to try and clean up the right setting (update next week).
2221
2222
---
2223
2224
h3. March 30, 2023
2225 515 Garth Huber
2226 514 Vijay Kumar
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_23mar30.txt
2227
* Vijay
2228
** Switched the pion routine in SIMC for the pion cross-section.
2229
** Re-ran SIMC to simulate the p(e, eโ€™ฯ€+)n reaction for all the settings of Q2 = 0.38 GeV2 data.
2230
** More details are in the talk. attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting_Mar30_2023.pdf
2231
2232
---
2233 510 Ali Usman
2234
h3. March 23, 2023
2235 513 Garth Huber
2236
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23mar23.txt
2237
* Carlos
2238
** relative yields rate dependence
2239
https://hallcweb.jlab.org/DocDB/0012/001209/001/rate_dependence_slides_cyero_Mar09_2023.pdf
2240
** event types definitions
2241 510 Ali Usman
https://hallcweb.jlab.org/DocDB/0012/001208/001/event_type_definitions_COIN_DAQ_cyero_Mar16_2023.pdf
2242
* Ali
2243 512 Richard Trotta
** Pion PID study for high Q2 data. This update shows Q2 = 2.1, low e (center) setting. attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Mar_23.pdf
2244 511 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2245
** attachment:
2246
** Carlos and I discussed some oddities in a comparison of our lumi scaler results for the HMS.
2247
** "Added quick script to check cuts applied in ltsep python package.":https://github.com/JeffersonLab/UTIL_KAONLT/blob/spring_2022/check_cuts.sh This requires the most update version of the ltsep package, but can be easily downgraded. (just let me know if interested)
2248
** Alicia, Ali, and I are meeting tomorrow at 2:30 to discuss the odd right setting peaks.
2249 510 Ali Usman
2250
---
2251 506 Richard Trotta
2252
h3. March 16, 2023
2253 516 Garth Huber
2254 506 Richard Trotta
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_23mar16.txt
2255 507 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2256 506 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_3_16_23.pdf
2257
** Carlos has been working on the rate dependence issue for the luminosity scans that Casey and I have been seeing. He came to a similar conclusion as me that there will need to be a correction factor that we all agree on that will need to be applied. We are meeting on Monday to discuss things further. "See his slides on the docDB":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/doc-private/ShowDocument?docid=1206
2258 509 Nathan Heinrich
** I think I have tracked down the odd issues with right setting that I have been seeing for most energies. I am not sure why, but it seems that something is going wrong with the replays. I tried rerunning them, but the issue has persisted. My initial guess is that it may be an issue with the TDC cuts, since the coin time distributions were looking off previously. 
2259
* Nathan
2260 506 Richard Trotta
** presented recent updates on the Aerogel calibration: attachment:AerogelCalib_2023-03-16.pdf
2261
** will make multiple calibrations based on PMT4+ dependance
2262
2263 501 Garth Huber
---
2264 1 Richard Trotta
2265 501 Garth Huber
h3. March 09, 2023
2266 513 Garth Huber
2267 504 Garth Huber
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_23mar09.txt
2268 505 Garth Huber
* Nathan
2269 503 Garth Huber
** Presented the an update to the aerogel calibration, including a 3 year old presentation from Petr
2270 501 Garth Huber
*** presentation attachment:presentation-2020-09-23-kaonlt-summary.pdf
2271
** Also working on the anomalous LD- setting. Things not making sense. Requesting back up.
2272
2273 1 Richard Trotta
---
2274 490 Vijay Kumar
2275
h3. March 02, 2023
2276 513 Garth Huber
2277 494 Richard Trotta
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23mar02.txt
2278 495 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2279 497 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_2_23.pdf
2280 498 Richard Trotta
** Heep SIMC to hcana script is working for missing momentum and energy variables. "Heep 10p6":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1763 "Heep 8p2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1759 "Heep 6p2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1760 "Heep 4p9":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1762 "Heep 3p8":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1761
2281 494 Richard Trotta
** Fortran scripts for finding average kinematic values and cross sections is working. "Q2=5.5, W=3.02, high eps":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1767 "Q2=5.5, W=3.02, low eps":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1766
2282 490 Vijay Kumar
** My yield ratios are looking a very weird, more investigation is required. "Ratio and xsects for Q2=5.5, W=3.02, low eps":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1765
2283
* Vijay
2284
** MMpi cut updated.
2285
** 8th t-bin adjusted.
2286 492 Vijay Kumar
** Events per t-bin calculated for each epsilon setting.
2287 490 Vijay Kumar
** Experimental Yield calculation in each bin is done.
2288 478 Richard Trotta
** More details of the update are in the slides. attachment:KaonLT_meeting_March02_2023.pdf
2289 1 Richard Trotta
2290 478 Richard Trotta
---
2291 488 Ali Usman
2292
h3. Feb 23, 2023
2293 513 Garth Huber
2294 488 Ali Usman
* Garth/Stephen Notes  attachment:mtg_23feb23.txt
2295
* Ali
2296
** Update on HMS Cherenkov and Calorimeter efficiency study. attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Feb_23.pdf
2297 1 Richard Trotta
** Looking at wide range of Heep Singles settings from KaonLT data (primarily low e data).
2298 488 Ali Usman
2299
---
2300 486 Vijay Kumar
2301
h3. Feb 16, 2023
2302 513 Garth Huber
2303 484 Vijay Kumar
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_23feb16.txt
2304
* Vijay
2305
** Updated the diamond cut for Q2 = 0.38 GeV2 data.
2306
** t resolution checked from the center setting of SIMC at low epsilon.
2307
** Binned the data in t (total 8 bins).
2308
** t resolution checked for each t bin too.
2309 485 Vijay Kumar
** Working to bin the data in Phi (16 bins).
2310 484 Vijay Kumar
** Working to make the Fortran scripts (average_ratios.f, average_kinematics.f & calc_xsect.f) for the summer 2019 data. attachment:KaonLT_meeting_Feb16_2023.pdf
2311
2312
2313
---
2314 481 Ali Usman
2315
h3. Feb 9, 2023
2316 483 Garth Huber
2317 481 Ali Usman
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_23feb09.txt
2318
* Ali
2319
** attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Feb_09.pdf
2320 478 Richard Trotta
** HMS Cerenkov and Calorimeter Study for different kinematics settings.
2321
* Richard
2322
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting2_9_23.pdf
2323 479 Richard Trotta
** Fixed the odd right distribution for Q2=5.5 by applying more strict cointime cuts.
2324 326 Garth Huber
** SIMC c++ code is finishing up. It currently just updates pmx, pmy, pmz, pm, and em with the hcana version of calculations. Angles will be the next step once things are finished up.
2325 405 Vijay Kumar
2326 1 Richard Trotta
---
2327 474 Vijay Kumar
2328
h3. Feb 2, 2023
2329 476 Garth Huber
2330 475 Richard Trotta
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_23feb02.txt
2331
* Richard
2332
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting2_2_23.pdf
2333
** The simc portion of the LT_analysis code is working but there is a bug I am sorting out which produces incorrect plots
2334
** During a discussion Ali, Vijay, and I had, it was realized that another script is likely missing which I will discuss with Bill. This script is one that combines the phi settings for the fortran code.
2335 474 Vijay Kumar
** Dave and I met to go over the fixed variable implementation in SIMC. We fixed a few issues which I am in the process of fixing.
2336
* Vijay
2337 477 Alicia Postuma
** Update from the analyzed low epsilon data of Q2 = 0.38 GeV2. attachment:KaonLT_meeting_Feb2_2023.pdf
2338
* Alicia
2339
** Preliminary asymmetry results: Q2=3/W=2.32, Q2=4.4/W=2.74, Q2=2.115/W=2.95, aluminum
2340
** attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_Feb2.pdf
2341 474 Vijay Kumar
2342
2343
---
2344 469 Richard Trotta
2345
h3. Jan 26, 2023
2346 473 Garth Huber
2347 469 Richard Trotta
* Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_23jan26.txt
2348
* Richard
2349
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting1_26_23.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_Q5p5W3p02_highe.pdf
2350
** LT_analysis script is finishing up. I have the SIMC portion just about working now. I have some other things I am adding because of my conversation with Bill last week.
2351 470 Nathan Heinrich
** SIMC vs Data plots for Q2=5p5 show a very small SIMC. Need to investigate further.
2352
* Nathan
2353
** attachment:RefTimes_Update_2023-01-26.pdf 
2354
** Asked Carlos Yero about the cointime ref times, he sent me an older email chain attachment:ref_times_email_exchange.txt
2355
*** only SHMS variables are used.
2356 471 Nathan Heinrich
** Presented ref times plots, and suggested cuts.
2357
*** Cuts are already set up and pull request is sent to LTSep_Analysis_2022 branch
2358 469 Richard Trotta
2359
---
2360 458 Richard Trotta
2361
h3. Jan 19, 2023
2362 467 Garth Huber
2363 462 Ali Usman
* Garth/Stephen Notes  attachment:mtg_23jan19.txt
2364
* Ali
2365 460 Vijay Kumar
** Looking at HMS Calorimeter and Cherenkov Efficiency and PID. attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Jan_19.pdf
2366
* Vijay
2367
** attachment:Vijay_Jan19_2023.pdf
2368 464 Alicia Postuma
** Trying to understand the pion cross-section across the acceptance. 
2369
* Alicia
2370
** attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_Updates-6.pdf
2371
** Added dummy target subtraction to asymmetry calculation
2372
** Discussed fitting to extract cross-section ratio
2373 458 Richard Trotta
** Requested: details on error calculations: attachment:Asymmetry_Errors.pdf
2374
* Richard
2375
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting1_19_23.pdf
2376
** Implemented Jacob's diamond cut script into the setup before Bill's code. This also does the t-binning as well.
2377 461 Nathan Heinrich
** There was missing code for the SIMC implementation which has been found. I am meeting with Bill tomorrow 1/20 to discuss this implementation. Once this is complete, everything is in place to run the Fortran code to get average kinematics and unsep cross sections.
2378 468 Garth Huber
* Nathan
2379 461 Nathan Heinrich
** Started working on reference times
2380
** has some extra peaks in some runs
2381 1 Richard Trotta
*** Should be explained by the triggers on in each run
2382 468 Garth Huber
** attachment:RefTimes_Update_2023-01-19.pdf
2383
2384 458 Richard Trotta
----
2385 453 Ali Usman
2386
h3. Jan 4, 2023
2387 457 Garth Huber
2388 453 Ali Usman
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_23jan04.txt
2389
* Ali
2390 1 Richard Trotta
** attachment:Jan4_KLT_Meeting.pdf
2391 458 Richard Trotta
** All Kaon_LT data has been replayed over the holidays. Slide show list of major changes for the replay.
2392
2393 459 Richard Trotta
---
2394 458 Richard Trotta
2395 454 Ali Usman
h2. 2022 Meetings
2396 453 Ali Usman
2397
---
2398 450 Richard Trotta
2399
h3. Dec 21, 2022
2400 457 Garth Huber
2401 450 Richard Trotta
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22dec21.txt
2402 451 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2403 450 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting12_21_22.pdf
2404
** SIMC code was updated to match what is in hcana, using hcana and parts of Carlos' code as a template. Things do not look right though. 
2405
** We are a month behind at this point and Bill has finally responded to my questions so I am going to fully concentrate on getting cross sections before the Hall C collaboration meeting in January so that Nathan can present them. I am setting a soft deadline of January 6th to get him early results but will continue to push for cross sections by the talk.
2406
2407
---
2408 449 Garth Huber
2409
h3. Dec 14, 2022
2410 457 Garth Huber
2411 449 Garth Huber
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22dec14.txt
2412
2413
---
2414 442 Richard Trotta
2415 440 Ali Usman
h3. Dec 7, 2022
2416 457 Garth Huber
2417 440 Ali Usman
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22dec07.txt
2418 442 Richard Trotta
* Ali
2419 443 Richard Trotta
** New error calculation (binomial) for efficiencies and Live Times. attachment:KaonLT_Dec_5.pdf
2420 446 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2421 443 Richard Trotta
** "Q2=3.0, W=3.14, lowe":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1707 "Q2=5.5, W=3.02, lowe":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1708 "Q2=4.4, W=2.74, lowe":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1709 "Q2=4.4, W=2.74, highe":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1710 "Q2=5.5, W=3.02, highe":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1711 "Q2=3.0, W=3.14, highe":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1712
2422
** A new subroutine has been added for the hcana variable calculations in SIMC, this is ongoing.
2423
** Plots of right/left/center for each physics setting have been added, including efficiencies and t-bin plots (no diamond cuts yet!). These plots show the input to Bill's code for comparison. These need to be updated with Ali's updates so a new set of replays will need to be analyzed.
2424 448 Alicia Postuma
** Bill is doing a write-up with some questions I had which will hopefully fix the remaining issues I've been having with his code.
2425 440 Ali Usman
* Alicia: attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_Dec07.pdf
2426
2427
---
2428 439 Garth Huber
2429
h3. Nov 30, 2022
2430
2431
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22nov30.txt
2432
2433
---
2434 437 Garth Huber
2435
h3. Nov 23, 2022
2436
2437 438 Alicia Postuma
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22nov23.txt
2438 437 Garth Huber
* Alicia asymmetry update attachment:Asymmetry_Postuma_Updates.pdf
2439
2440
---
2441 424 Richard Trotta
2442
h3. Nov 16, 2022
2443 435 Garth Huber
2444 424 Richard Trotta
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22nov16.txt
2445 428 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2446
** "8p2 LH2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1684 "8p2 C":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1685
2447 424 Richard Trotta
** "10p6 C 2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1686 "10p6 C 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1687 "10p6 LH2 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1688 "10p6 C 3":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1689 "10p6 LH2 2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1690 "10p6 LH2 3":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1691
2448
** Fits for lumi scans look great for HMS across the board. SHMS no track also look pretty good but tracking still needs work. Ali has adjusted the tracking parameters in the replay which should help things. Signs of boiling are also now evident in HMS for some runs.
2449
** Odd issue with the yields going on that I need to discuss with Bill. It seems to be a cut discrepancy that is eliminating events, I may be missing a cut that he has hidden somewhere. Besides this, the cross-section code is being edited for HeeP so we can get some cross-section plots on this soon.
2450 429 Richard Trotta
** I found a script for raster calibrations. The script is being fixed as it is currently a bit of a mess.
2451 430 Stephen Kay
** https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Hall_C_Raster_Algorithm
2452
* Stephen
2453
** Updates to the hcana RFTime class
2454
** Added in particle dependent corrections for e/pi/K/p for each spectrometer
2455
*** Calculate beta for each particle type (from momentum, delta)
2456
*** Determine path length from xptar and delta
2457
*** Calculate ToF
2458
*** Add this in modulo that determines RFtime
2459
*** Tried method Shuo used initially, didn't really do anything
2460 433 Stephen Kay
** Some further updates needed before it will be pushed to the hallc repo
2461
** "Slides":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1694 
2462
** "RF corrections applied exactly as Shuo applied them":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1696 "RF corrections determined as Shuo did, but applied inside the modulo fn":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1697 
2463 436 Garth Huber
** "RF correction simply the ToF added in the modulo fn, seems to work":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1695
2464
* Vijay (presented by GH)
2465 424 Richard Trotta
** low Q2 attachment:CPULT_lowQ2.png attachment:TLT_lowQ2.png attachment:ELT_lowQ2.png
2466
2467
---
2468 420 Vijay Kumar
2469
h3. Nov 09, 2022
2470 421 Garth Huber
2471 422 Garth Huber
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22nov09.txt
2472 423 Garth Huber
* Bill (Wenliang) Li L/T-separation code tutorial.
2473 420 Vijay Kumar
** Video recording is posted at: http://lichen.phys.uregina.ca/~huberg/kaon/LT_tutorial_20221109_1920x1080.mp4
2474
* Vijay
2475
** The scaler Yield looks very nice at 2.7 GeV PionLT data. Below 10 uA could be fixed by placing some of the offsets in the BCM calibration. attachment:Vijay_LumiStuy.pdf 
2476
2477
---
2478 405 Vijay Kumar
2479
h3. Nov 2, 2022
2480 416 Garth Huber
2481 405 Vijay Kumar
* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22nov02.txt
2482 406 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
2483 1 Richard Trotta
** The first round of the Lumi study in 2.7 GeV data of the PionLT experiment was preceded. The plots are attached, but I do not have any conclusions for now. Please see the attachment.
2484 419 Vijay Kumar
attachment:Vijay_REYIELD_2p7C.pdf 
2485 411 Ali Usman
  
2486
* Ali
2487 412 Ali Usman
** Heep Coin Offset study using Peter Bosted's correction factor for HMS central momenta. The results from 8.2 and 10.6 GeV improved after applying the offset whereas 6.2 over corrects the distributions as they are already looking good with no offset. Data and SIMC comparison look very good for W distribution but doesn't perfectly match for missing variables.
2488 418 Jacob Murphy
attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Nov_2.pdf
2489
* Jacob
2490
** Regarding Ali's work on the Pc offsets at high momentum, I referenced the delta corrections I made early last year. In EPICS, the NMR did not appear to be locked and in the middle of the scan, the NMR was changed. Slide 15 has the offsets to the central momentum, Pc.
2491 413 Richard Trotta
attachment:HMS_Optimization_at_High_Momentum.pdf
2492 427 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2493 426 Richard Trotta
** "6p2 C":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1658 "6p2 LH2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1659
2494 413 Richard Trotta
** "10p6 C 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1662 "10p6 C 2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1663 "10p6 C 3":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1664 "10p6 LH2 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1665 "10p6 LH2 2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1666 "10p6 LH2 3":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1667
2495
** Luminosities are looking very nice. These now include the ones Peter pointed out that were taken during SIDIS. Nearly all e-e runs are under 5%.
2496
** I have debugged all of the issues I was having with Bill's code. I am now in the process of merging the two frameworks which is mainly just making names, conventions, etc. consistent.
2497
** I have been writing up some questions for Bill next week when he presents. I'd like to also have these two frameworks pretty much merged by then.
2498 405 Vijay Kumar
2499 325 Garth Huber
 
2500 346 Richard Trotta
----
2501 403 Garth Huber
2502
h3. Oct 26, 2022
2503
2504
* DaveG notes attachment:mtg_22oct26.txt
2505
2506
----
2507 402 Garth Huber
2508 1 Richard Trotta
h3. Oct 19, 2022
2509 402 Garth Huber
2510 401 Richard Trotta
* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22oct19.txt
2511
* Richard
2512
** The trend in the SHMS track yields is still present in the positive polarity luminosity runs.
2513
** Talk for the Hall C Quarterly meeting was discussed. 
2514
2515
----
2516 400 Garth Huber
2517
h3. Oct 12, 2022
2518
2519
* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22oct12.txt
2520
2521
----
2522 397 Richard Trotta
2523
h3. Oct 4, 2022
2524 399 Garth Huber
2525 397 Richard Trotta
* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22oct05.txt
2526
* Richard
2527
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting10_4_22.pdf
2528
** Fixed some issues with the luminosity scripts with updated replay and analysis script. The biggest issue was the really low beam on times which came from BCM4a being called by accident in some cases instead of BCM1.
2529
*** It should be noted, there are huge discrepancies between BCM4A and BCM1 in some cases (like 20+ uA).
2530
** Ran into some issues with the cross-section code. I am in debug mode trying to find the cause.
2531
** Tanja sent me some awesome fpi2 raster correction documents as well as procedures for verifying the beam and target positions. I am in the process of reading through/beginning these procedures. A Redmine wiki page will be linked when completed.
2532
2533
----
2534 393 Garth Huber
2535
h3. Sept 28, 2022
2536 394 Garth Huber
2537
* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22sep28.txt
2538 396 Jacob Murphy
* Jacob
2539 394 Garth Huber
** HMS optics fitting - attachment:HMS_Optics_Calibrations_Update.pdf
2540 393 Garth Huber
2541
----
2542 382 Garth Huber
2543
h3. Sept 21, 2022
2544 392 Garth Huber
2545 389 Richard Trotta
* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22sep21.txt
2546
* Richard
2547
** attachment:Yield_6p2cl1.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl2.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl1.pdf
2548 390 Richard Trotta
** Lumi SHMS tracking is still showing the trend from 9/8. It was found that the lumi replay script is not updated with many of Ali and Richard's most recent changes. These changes are being applied and a set of new replays will be done.
2549
** Bill's cross-section code is broken into two major parts. The root analysis part, which takes all the yields, uncertainties, etc., is nearly complete with the connecting ltsep framework script finishing up. The second part, where many of the final plots and cross-sections are done, is a hard-coded mess. Richard is in the process of making this more dynamic. This aspect will take more time but the root analysis part is the bulk of the analysis anyways.
2550
* Ali
2551 391 Ali Usman
** attachment:Ali_Sep21_Analysis.pdf
2552 389 Richard Trotta
** Heep Coin analysis for high Q2 KaonLT data (6.2, 8.2, 10.6 GeV beam energy) has now all the efficiencies/live times applied. The results for all 3 beam energies are looking very good. Data/SIMC ratios are agreeing very well (< 3%) and the shapes are matching up nicely. Next step is to finalize offsets for both low and high Q2 KaonLT data. Also proton absorption correction and target boiling needs to be applied.
2553 382 Garth Huber
2554
----
2555 379 Garth Huber
2556
h3. Sept 8, 2022
2557 382 Garth Huber
2558 383 Ali Usman
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22sep08.txt
2559
* Ali
2560 386 Ali Usman
** attachment:Sep8_Analysis.pdf
2561 384 Ali Usman
** Heep Coin Analysis update. Fixed the issue with emiss and pmiss. Includes number of debug tests.
2562 387 Ali Usman
** attachment:FullAnalysis_4p9-2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_8p2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_6p2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_3p8-1.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_10p6-1.pdf
2563 380 Richard Trotta
** Full analysis files are the latest data/simc comparison for different beam energies (No offsets applied yet) 
2564
* Richard
2565 381 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting9_8_22.pdf
2566 380 Richard Trotta
** attachment:Yield_6p2_l1_all.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6_l1_all.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6_l2_all.pdf
2567
** Improved total uncertainties
2568
** In-depth with tracking cut analysis underway
2569
** Poor TLT consistent with poor CPULTs
2570 379 Garth Huber
2571
----
2572 371 Garth Huber
2573
h3. Aug 31, 2022
2574 379 Garth Huber
2575 378 Richard Trotta
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug31.txt
2576
* Richard
2577
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting8_31_22.pdf
2578
** Improvements to luminosity analysis. Things are getting within a few percent. There are still some obvious issues with dependency leaking into the cuts, especially for tracking which is being investigated further.
2579
** Uncertainties for the luminosities and heep are next up.
2580 371 Garth Huber
2581
----
2582 374 Garth Huber
2583 1 Richard Trotta
h3. Aug 26, 2022
2584 375 Garth Huber
2585 374 Garth Huber
* Meeting on L/T-separation procedure
2586
** Garth's slides attachment:LT_sep_iterations.pdf
2587 377 Garth Huber
** Bill's tutorial (Nov 2018) attachment:Kaon_LT_tutorial_18nov28.pdf
2588 395 Garth Huber
** Stephen's notes attachment:LTsep_mtg_22aug26.txt
2589 373 Garth Huber
** Recording of Sept 27 repeat at: http://lichen.phys.uregina.ca/~huberg/kaon/LT_tutorial_20220927_1920x1080.mp4
2590
2591 372 Garth Huber
----
2592 366 Garth Huber
2593 368 Vijay Kumar
h3. Aug 17, 2022
2594 371 Garth Huber
2595 367 Vijay Kumar
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug17.txt
2596 369 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
2597 367 Vijay Kumar
** The summary of the Heepcheck study is attached here. attachment:Vijay_Aug17_2022.pdf 
2598 370 Richard Trotta
** 3.6 and 3.9 GeV data do NOT have the angle offsets. This has been established in the study.
2599
** I've plotted the offsets vs SHMS central momentum. Plots are attached in the attached pdf file.
2600
* Richard
2601
** The 10.6 GeV heep analysis is going well but the broad momentum distributions are making offsets difficult at times.
2602
** I have decided to give a second pair of eyes to Ali's hcana vs simc calculation investigation. It is concluded that the broad peaks of the hcana are likely caused by the secondary particle calculation which is gathered from the spectrometer track info. 
2603
** Corrections to the simc pmiss components have been added to the fortran code which corrects for a minus sign that is in hcana but missing from simc.
2604
** attachment:FullAnalysis_Offset_10p6.pdf
2605 367 Vijay Kumar
** attachment:HcanavSimc_scatter_calc.pdf
2606 366 Garth Huber
 
2607
2608
---
2609 354 Garth Huber
2610
h3. Aug 4, 2022
2611 365 Garth Huber
2612 363 Vijay Kumar
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug04.txt
2613
* Vijay
2614 362 Richard Trotta
** The offset HeepCheck study at 3.9, 4.9 (KaonLT), 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 (PionLT) GeV has been completed. attachment:Vijay_HeepCheckStudy.pdf  
2615
* Richard
2616
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting_8_4_22.pdf
2617
** HeeP coin for 10p6 setting is looking pretty good. I still need to make some minor adjustments.
2618
** TLT for Lumi is looking much better. The yields also are looking better but cut adjustments need to be made.
2619
** HeeP singles have some odd issues that need to be resolved before offset analysis can begin.
2620 355 Garth Huber
** Hodoscope calibrations are all done except 6p2.
2621 354 Garth Huber
2622
---
2623 350 Richard Trotta
2624
h3. July 14, 2022
2625 353 Garth Huber
2626 350 Richard Trotta
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22jul14.txt
2627
* Richard
2628
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_14_22.pdf
2629 1 Richard Trotta
** The W peaks for SIMC and data are very far offset from one another. This is being investigated.
2630 350 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
2631 349 Garth Huber
** Heep Data MC comparo w/o offsets attachment:Heep_coin_no_offsets_vijay_22jul08.pdf
2632
2633
----
2634 344 Richard Trotta
2635
h3. June 28, 2022
2636 349 Garth Huber
2637 344 Richard Trotta
* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22jun28.txt
2638
* Richard
2639
** Aerogel XY plots vs NPE to check out the tray location and efficiencies.
2640
** Hodoscope and calorimeter scripts working. Hodoscope calibration looks good for 10p6 but needs improvement for other beam energies.
2641 1 Richard Trotta
** HGCer efficiency and plots added to efficiency script. Need to discuss with Vijay on specifics of cuts and efficiencies.
2642 348 Jacob Murphy
** Started looking in detail at Bill's code. Some scripts and links are missing/broken.
2643
* Jacob
2644
** EDTM Study Report completed, with newer versions of the TLT equations attachment:EDTM_Study_Report.pdf
2645 347 Richard Trotta
** Graphical Guide for Event Types created to accompany the report, illustrating prescaling with EDTM attachment:Graphical_Guide_Evt_Type.pdf
2646 344 Richard Trotta
** Plan to update report file template with new equations and errors soon
2647
2648 282 Vijay Kumar
----
2649 338 Garth Huber
2650
h3. June 14, 2022
2651 343 Garth Huber
2652 342 Richard Trotta
* Garth's Notes attachment:efficiencies_22jun13.txt
2653
* Richard
2654
** Fixed issues with simc script and 10p6 Heepcoin data. Issue with data was an offset of 40ns that was corrected halfway through runs.
2655
** Aerogel XY plots vs NPE to check out the tray location and efficiencies.
2656
** Efficiency plots for all production runs.
2657 338 Garth Huber
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_14_22.pdf
2658
2659
----
2660 1 Richard Trotta
2661 330 Garth Huber
h3. May 31, 2022
2662
2663 340 Garth Huber
* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may31.txt attachment:efficiencies_22jun02.txt
2664 332 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay 
2665 334 Ali Usman
** The updated Heep coin study (Heepcheck program) at 3.9 GeV KaonLT data is attached here attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting_May31_2022.pdf .
2666 355 Garth Huber
* Ali
2667 332 Vijay Kumar
** First look at the HEEP COIN Data/SIMC comparison for the 8.2 GeV Kaon-LT data attachment:KaonLT_May31.pdf
2668 314 Garth Huber
2669
----
2670
2671
h3. May 17, 2022
2672 325 Garth Huber
2673 331 Garth Huber
2674 318 Richard Trotta
* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may17.txt attachment:efficiencies_22may25.txt
2675
* Richard
2676
** Updated heep coin scripts for the farm. Ali is testing them and should be able to get plots soon.
2677
** There was a small typo in the simc input file that dramatically changed the shape of the plots. attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_17_22.pdf
2678 316 Vijay Kumar
** Updated version of efficiency columns for the script that will grab efficiencies and various other values. attachment:efficiency_output_list.docx
2679
* Vijay 
2680 317 Vijay Kumar
** The updated heep coin study (some spectrometers offsets changed) at 3.9 GeV KaonLT data is attached here attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting.pdf .
2681 314 Garth Huber
2682
----
2683 299 Garth Huber
2684 303 Vijay Kumar
h3. May 3, 2022
2685 315 Garth Huber
2686 308 Ali Usman
* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may03.odt  attachment:efficiencies_22may03.odt
2687
* Ali
2688
** Fixed all the settings for high Q2 KaonLT data. Also slide on accessing spectrometer angles from CODA
2689 309 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLT_May_3.pdf
2690 312 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2691 302 Vijay Kumar
** Analysis of 10.6 GeV heep data. Need to scale data to see how they compare with SIMC for smaller offsets. attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_3_22.pdf
2692 304 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay 
2693 305 Vijay Kumar
** The SIMC simulation study of the PinoLT data at Q2 = 0.38 and 0.42 GeV2 has completed (preliminary) for all settings.
2694 299 Garth Huber
** An output pdf file of the 4.5 GeV, Q2 = 0.42 GeV2 and "center" setting is here attachment:Vijay_analysis_May3_2022.pdf .
2695 300 Garth Huber
2696
----
2697 296 Vijay Kumar
2698 299 Garth Huber
h3. April 19, 2022
2699
2700 1 Richard Trotta
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22apr19.txt
2701 296 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay 
2702 298 Vijay Kumar
** SIMC simulation updates at Q2 = 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 GeV2. attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_Meeting_Apr19_2022.pdf  
2703 296 Vijay Kumar
2704
----
2705
2706 306 Vijay Kumar
h3. April 06, 2022
2707 355 Garth Huber
2708 306 Vijay Kumar
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22apr06.txt
2709 293 Garth Huber
* Ali 
2710 290 Richard Trotta
**  attachment:Analysis_Update_Apr_6.pdf 
2711
* Richard 
2712 288 Richard Trotta
** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_6_22.pdf
2713
** The analysis of the 10.6 GeV heep coin/singles settings are still ongoing. 
2714
** There were some issues getting the replays working for the singles runs and the analysis. Things finally were sorted out yesterday (and this morning).
2715 291 Richard Trotta
** The SHMS heep singles are presented. Overall, they look fine. There are still some things to sort out.
2716 282 Vijay Kumar
** The HMS heep singles are still running.
2717 306 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay 
2718 288 Richard Trotta
** The simulation study of the 4.9 GeV KaonLT data has completed.
2719 295 Garth Huber
** This energy has left, center and right settings data. All these settings look fine. 
2720 284 Vijay Kumar
** See the pdf for more info. attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_Meeting_Apri_06_2022.pdf  
2721 1 Richard Trotta
2722 284 Vijay Kumar
----
2723 281 Richard Trotta
2724 1 Richard Trotta
h3. March 23, 2022
2725 281 Richard Trotta
2726 1 Richard Trotta
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22mar23.txt
2727 278 Richard Trotta
* Richard 
2728
** 10.6 GeV heep coin was analyzed. Things look pretty good so far, still some work to be done. attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_23_22.pdf
2729 280 Nathan Heinrich
** Heep singles are next up. There have been issues replaying these runs but Ali may have fixed this issue with his parameter file changes.
2730
* Nathan
2731 278 Richard Trotta
** Did chack of the Mode 10 plots for HGC, was discrepancy between hardware and software caused by the variable phgcer_SampNSAT being 2 by default.
2732
** after changing back to 1 discrepancy resolved. Slides: attachment:Mode10Update_2022Mar23.pdf
2733
2734
---
2735
2736
h3. March 9, 2022
2737
2738 355 Garth Huber
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22mar09.txt
2739 267 Richard Trotta
* Regina March 4 meeting on pion leak through in (e,e'K+) analysis attachment:grp_22mar04.txt
2740
* Richard 
2741
** Vijay's scripts are working and Richard reproduced some of his previous plots. attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_9_22.pdf
2742 1 Richard Trotta
** The next step is to do a full analysis of the 10.6 GeV heep coin/singles data.
2743 277 Garth Huber
* Nathan
2744
** Update on the current state of mode 10: attachment:Mode10Update_2022Mar9.pdf 
2745 269 Richard Trotta
** See Mark Jones' slide on changes to hcana: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1424
2746 261 Garth Huber
2747
---
2748 271 Garth Huber
2749 273 Garth Huber
h3. February 23, 2022
2750 271 Garth Huber
2751
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22feb23.txt
2752 272 Garth Huber
2753
---
2754 244 Vijay Kumar
2755
h3. January 26, 2022  
2756 271 Garth Huber
2757 253 Vijay Kumar
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22jan26.txt
2758 251 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay, Heep updates from the PionLT experiment. attachment:Analysis_Updates_Jan26_2022.pdf 
2759 252 Vijay Kumar
** HMS single 2.7 GeV, total 6 settings. attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_1.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_2.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_3.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_4.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_5.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_6.pdf   
2760 246 Vijay Kumar
** SHMS single 2.7 GeV,total 6 settings. attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_1.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_2.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_3.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_4.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_5.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_6.pdf
2761 250 Vijay Kumar
** The 3.6 and 4.5 GeV data do not have elastic data.
2762 254 Nathan Heinrich
** Coin: 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 GeV. attachment:Analysed_2p7.pdf attachment:Analysed_3p6.pdf attachment:Analysed_4p5.pdf   
2763 255 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan, Short update on the Mode 10
2764 256 Jacob Murphy
** Short update. May need to update hcana to change software voltage threshold. attachment:2022-01-26NathanHeinrich.pdf
2765 260 Jacob Murphy
* Jacob, EDTM Study 2
2766 255 Nathan Heinrich
** EDTM study with beam, taken during LUMI Scan 3
2767 248 Vijay Kumar
** Early look at 3rd EDTM Study
2768 113 Richard Trotta
** Additional notes on increased deadtime in SHMS at High Current. attachment:PionLT_EDTM_Study2_Analysis.pdf
2769 222 Richard Trotta
2770 200 Richard Trotta
----
2771 236 Garth Huber
2772
h3. January 12, 2022  
2773
2774
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22jan12.txt
2775
* Junaid
2776 240 Vijay Kumar
** PID study
2777 238 Vijay Kumar
* Vijay
2778 236 Garth Huber
** Heep-singles study attachment:Analysis_Updates1_Jan12.pdf 
2779
* Nathan
2780
** Mode-10 data variables
2781 243 Richard Trotta
2782
----
2783 234 Garth Huber
2784
h3. January 5, 2022  
2785 235 Garth Huber
2786 221 Richard Trotta
* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22jan05.txt
2787
* Stephen
2788
** Stephen was updating GitHub but UTIL_BATCH has some permissions issues
2789
* Richard
2790
** Update to KLT task schedule
2791
** Meeting between Richard and Vijay to discuss task breakdown Friday, January 7th at 11 am EST
2792 223 Richard Trotta
** EDTM study 2 will done sometime this weekend
2793
* Vijay
2794 224 Richard Trotta
** Breakdown of HEEP single analysis for low Q2 data
2795
*** Shapes of SIMC and data are very off
2796 231 Vijay Kumar
*** It seems to be a systematic issue on Vijay's part because the same issue is being seen in PLT data
2797 229 Vijay Kumar
*** The main issue in my input file was the target thickness, which picked up by Dave in the group meeting. I corrected the target thickness and now it looks ok. See the attached pdf file below.  
2798 228 Vijay Kumar
** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1376
2799 225 Nathan Heinrich
** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1375
2800
* Nathan
2801
** Update on fADC mode 10 studies and the fADC deadtime studies
2802 226 Jacob Murphy
** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1372
2803
* Jacob
2804 227 Jacob Murphy
** Summary of EDTM analysis so far in the PionLT experiment
2805 242 Richard Trotta
** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1373
2806 221 Richard Trotta
2807
----
2808
2809
h2. 2021 Meetings
2810 220 Richard Trotta
2811
h3. August 4, 2021
2812
2813
* Richard
2814
** Update on the HEEP singles. The remainder of energy setting ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1% and < 0.5% uncertainty).
2815
** Issues with the COIN are seen but may be a replay issue.
2816
2817
----
2818 217 Richard Trotta
2819
h3. July 21, 2021
2820 218 Richard Trotta
2821 217 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1250/KaonLTMeeting7_14_21.pdf
2822
** Update on the HEEP singles. 10.6 GeV ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1%) but proper error bars are needed.
2823
2824
----
2825 215 Richard Trotta
2826
h3. May 12, 2021
2827
2828
* Richard
2829
** The currents were adjusted from 1-10 uA with little effect on the EDMTLT but proper changes to the CPULT. The replay bcm cut script developed by Sanghwa was also analyzed to see if it may be causing the issue but it had the same effects. There was also a small error in the code found where T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTimeRaw was incorrectly written as T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTime.
2830
2831
----
2832 213 Richard Trotta
2833
h3. April 28, 2021
2834
2835 214 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2836 213 Richard Trotta
** Lumi table was created for 2 sets of runs. Odd behavior seen ~30-45 uA with EDTM where is drops. Playing with the current cuts is the next step.
2837
2838
----
2839 211 Richard Trotta
2840 212 Richard Trotta
h3. April 14, 2021
2841 211 Richard Trotta
2842
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_4_14_21.pdf
2843
** Updated Lumi carbon plots with uncertainties. PID and current cuts need to be played around with a bit to see if they improve things (as uncertainties don't explain any boiling-type behaviors). 
2844
** Some PionLT carbon runs were looked at but there are still some issues (either cut or pathing related).
2845
2846
----
2847 203 Richard Trotta
2848
h3. March 31, 2021
2849 206 Richard Trotta
2850 209 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2851
** Luminosity studies
2852
*** PionLT carbon runs
2853
**** Still having issues getting decent results. I think I am just missing a definition somewhere that I need to track down
2854
*** Uncertainties
2855
**** Easy to do, I just need to put it into my script
2856
** Explicit PS calculations
2857
*** I have gotten a rough script working for very simple runs (ie low rate, single spectrometer, calibration runs)
2858
*** I am trying to expand to lumi singles runs, things get a bit more complex so I am just working out the trigger correlations
2859
** Pass 2 runs
2860
*** DEF-files
2861
**** I checked out the DEF-files for our combination of the nested files
2862
**** There are a lot a files (~150!!!!) and may be hard to track so next week *we should make a flowchart together*
2863
**** Working on my list of branches for the next replay
2864
***** Mainly just working on my list of branches for the explicit PS calculations
2865 210 Stephen Kay
***** *Everyone should have a list of these branches by next mini-meeting (4/7/21)*
2866
* Stephen
2867
** Updated DEF-File for the "full" replay
2868
*** Can't remove NData brances, Mark says they won't take up too many resources anyway
2869
*** Removed individual PMT info and raw info for many detectors, reduced file size by factor ~2
2870
** Updating DEF-files/scripts for calibrations as part of PionLT prep
2871
** Will focus on DEF-file/DEF-cut file updates over next week
2872 207 Richard Trotta
*** Will investigate HeeP replays over rest of this week.
2873 203 Richard Trotta
2874
----
2875 201 Stephen Kay
2876
h3. March 24, 2021
2877
2878
* KaonLT Mini Meeting focusing on Pass2 preparation
2879
* "Task summary from Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Replay_2_Tasks
2880
2881
----
2882 200 Richard Trotta
2883
h3. March 17, 2021
2884
2885 1 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_17_21.pdf
2886 202 Stephen Kay
** I have re-run the carbon lumi runs with the changes to the replay events (i.e. All_events_NO_EDTM). The results look pretty good (within a few percent). There are still some trends I need to investigate for certain runs and I need to do the analysis for the pionLT carbon lumi data.
2887 201 Stephen Kay
* Mini meeting March 24th @ 4:30 EDT
2888 200 Richard Trotta
2889 194 Richard Trotta
----
2890 199 Richard Trotta
2891
h3. March 3, 2021
2892
2893
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_3_21.pdf
2894
** I found an issue with the replay scripts used where the EDTM was not being properly registered. There is a discrepancy between two replay scripts depending on what the Decode_master is set to (i.e. ALL_events vs ALL_events_NO_EDTM). 
2895
** The explicit calculation of the prescale has hit a snag because of the differences between 6 GeV and 12 GeV. I contacted Mark Jones, who explained there are significant differences in the ADC gate between the two eras (which my own findings confirmed). I have contacted Brad for further input.
2896
2897
----
2898
2899 196 Richard Trotta
2900 194 Richard Trotta
h3. February 17, 2021
2901
2902
* Richard
2903 198 Nathan Heinrich
** Tried to remove some cumbersome elements to the analysis scripts without success. A few runs were added to a well behaved set of lumi runs with good consistency.
2904
* Nathan
2905
** Presented an update on the Hodoscope Calibrations: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1196/HodoscopeUpdate_2021Feb17.pdf
2906 194 Richard Trotta
2907
----
2908 196 Richard Trotta
2909 193 Richard Trotta
h3. February 3, 2021
2910
2911
* Richard
2912
** A table with the aerogel efficiency for kaons is being created. It will be expanded to other particles and detectors.
2913
2914
----
2915 196 Richard Trotta
2916 191 Richard Trotta
h3. January 20, 2021
2917
2918
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1172/KaonLTMeeting_1_20_21.pdf
2919
** All KaonLT carbon runs have been analyzed. There are still some issues that seem to be related to the pre-scale values. I may need to investigate the EDTM and/or the COIN events further to correct for these.
2920
2921
----
2922 196 Richard Trotta
2923 190 Richard Trotta
h3. January 6, 2021
2924
2925 322 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1153/KaonLTMeeting1_6_21.pdf
2926 186 Richard Trotta
** Analyzed most of the luminosity scans. There are a few issues I am investigating still which seem to be run related. 
2927
2928
----
2929
2930
h2. 2020 Meetings
2931 185 Richard Trotta
2932
h3. December 2, 2020
2933
 
2934
* Ali and Richard
2935
** Richard included the EDTM to Lumi analysis and found some old analysis of scalers by Mark Jones that he will compare. Ali and Richard met last week and will begin combining Ali's tracking studies with Richard's lumi analysis.
2936
2937
----
2938 180 Richard Trotta
2939
h3. November 18, 2020
2940 183 Richard Trotta
2941 181 Richard Trotta
* "Carlos":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1103/LiveTime_Study_cyero.pdf
2942 180 Richard Trotta
** He is investigating some of the EDTM rate dependence and sees a discrepancy between the total EDTM LT and CPU LT with a sudden dip at 20-30 kHz. More luminosity runs will need to be studied for a full conclusion.
2943
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1101/KaonLTMeeting11_18_20.pdf
2944
** Scaler analysis matches Carlos' code now. Overall significant improvements were made through some cut adjustments and incorrect variable definitions.
2945 182 Richard Trotta
* Stephen
2946 180 Richard Trotta
** Updated the hallc_replay_lt with parameter files for all coin peaks.
2947
2948
----
2949 178 Richard Trotta
2950 321 Richard Trotta
h3. November 4, 2020
2951 178 Richard Trotta
 
2952 321 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1092/KaonLTMeeting11_4_20.pdf
2953 178 Richard Trotta
** Scaler analysis is getting closer to an answer. An in-depth comparison of Carlos and Richard's analysis shows inconsistencies between the two. 
2954 141 Stephen Kay
2955
----
2956 170 Richard Trotta
2957
h3. October 28, 2020
2958
2959 177 Richard Trotta
* Ali
2960 172 Richard Trotta
** Went over some of his tracking procedures for the report file implementation
2961 173 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1091/KaonLTMeeting10_28_20.pdf
2962 171 Stephen Kay
** Luminosity analysis continues. There are still some issues but things have improved a bit.
2963
* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1090/KaonLT_Meeting_28_10_20.pdf
2964 174 Richard Trotta
** Discussion of CT peak analysis, progress and outline of what's left to do with this
2965 176 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
2966 170 Richard Trotta
** Dry run for Mark's hallc meeting tomorrow (10/29)
2967
2968
----
2969 164 Richard Trotta
2970
h3. October 14, 2020
2971 168 Richard Trotta
2972 164 Richard Trotta
* Ali
2973
** Working through the REPORT_FILES template to get everything working and outputting proper information.
2974
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1085/KaonLTMeeting_10_14_20.pdf
2975 167 Richard Trotta
** Updates on lumi scans. There are many issues from Scalers to Tracking that need to be resolved.
2976 164 Richard Trotta
* Stephen
2977 1 Richard Trotta
** He has included a demo for using the python analysis script in the README.
2978 164 Richard Trotta
2979
----
2980 161 Richard Trotta
2981
h3. September 23, 2020
2982
2983
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1078/KaonLTMeeting_9_23_20.pdf
2984
** A quick lumi analysis after the Pass1 runs. The results were compared to previously analyzed runs (5154-5158). There was some change but nothing huge. Some other runs with the same energy settings were analyzed as well. 
2985 162 Richard Trotta
* Stephen
2986
** Showed some slides from u-channel meeting of omega and proton MM  plots. Then discussed some ideas for dealing with the hole in the HGCer.
2987
* Petr
2988 161 Richard Trotta
** Data fitting algorithm based on E.H. Bellamy paper. Extracts PMT spectra from ROOT file and makes a 1D projection histogram.
2989
2990
----
2991 149 Richard Trotta
2992 156 Richard Trotta
h3. September 9, 2020
2993
2994 157 Richard Trotta
* Richard
2995 156 Richard Trotta
** Still working on run list, GUI checks
2996
* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/567
2997
** New slim replay scripts and full replay scripts updated
2998
* Ali
2999
** Him and Stephen found an issue (already aware of) with zeros in the parameter files using Mark's hcana changes
3000 158 Richard Trotta
** Need to be vigilant of crashed replays because this is probably the issue
3001 156 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
3002 1 Richard Trotta
** Nearly finished with HGcer calibrations
3003 156 Richard Trotta
3004
----
3005
3006
h3. August 26, 2020
3007 149 Richard Trotta
3008 154 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/483 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/479
3009
3010
* Richard
3011
** New tasks were created based on the previous discussions on objectives going forward. In the process of checking run sheets against the run list and camera/EPICS.
3012
* Stephen
3013
** Updated on RF times. There were a few issues with some runs, but overall most are finished.
3014
* Ali
3015
** Hodoscope calibrations look similar to before. There is still the issue of the double bands in the time walk. This is ok because of the wide windows we still have. (See "hodoscope calibration section":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks#Calibrations-Mid-to-Late-August-2020)
3016 150 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
3017 1 Richard Trotta
** Updated the SHMS HGCher analysis. The calibrations are coming along, but a little more work needs to be finished up.
3018 149 Richard Trotta
3019
----
3020 144 Richard Trotta
3021 147 Stephen Kay
h3. July 29, 2020
3022 148 Richard Trotta
3023 146 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1029/klt_7_29_20.html "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/106
3024 155 Richard Trotta
3025
* Stephen
3026
** Updates on scripts to set pedestal defaults and AdcTdc offsets after hcana change
3027
* Richard
3028 1 Richard Trotta
** Updated plan and schedule for the analysis going forward
3029 144 Richard Trotta
3030
----
3031 139 Richard Trotta
3032 1 Richard Trotta
h3. July 8, 2020
3033 139 Richard Trotta
3034 150 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1023/SHMS%20Proton%20Absorption.ods "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1022/KaonLT_Meeting_Jul_8.pdf
3035 139 Richard Trotta
3036
----
3037 132 Richard Trotta
3038
h3. June 24, 2020
3039 143 Richard Trotta
3040 132 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1014/Vijay_24_June_20.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1013/KaonLTMeeting_6_24_20.pdf
3041
3042
----
3043 129 Richard Trotta
3044
h3. June 9, 2020
3045 135 Richard Trotta
3046 129 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1006/Vijay_9_June_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1007/KaonLT_Meeting_Jun_9.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1005/KaonLTMeeting_6_9_20.pdf
3047
3048
----
3049 125 Richard Trotta
3050
h3. May 27, 2020
3051 126 Richard Trotta
3052 128 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1002/Vijay_26_May_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1003/KaonLT_Meeting_May_27%20%5BAutosaved%5D.pdf
3053 125 Richard Trotta
3054
----
3055 118 Stephen Kay
3056 124 Richard Trotta
h3. May 13, 2020
3057 138 Stephen Kay
3058 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/993/KaonLT_Meeting_13_05_20.pdf - Python analysis scripts "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/998/KaonLTMeeting_5_13_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/997/KaonLT_Meeting_May_13.pdf "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/999/Vijay_13_May_20.pdf
3059 121 Richard Trotta
3060
----
3061 111 Richard Trotta
3062
h3. April 29, 2020
3063 138 Stephen Kay
3064 106 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/984/KaonLTMeeting_4_29_20.pdf "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/985/KaonLT_Meeting_29_04_20.pdf - Python code planning "Mark's hcana tracking update":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/982/Updates-to-HCANA-tracking.pdf
3065 1 Richard Trotta
3066 106 Richard Trotta
----
3067 111 Richard Trotta
3068 104 Richard Trotta
h3. April 15, 2020
3069 102 Richard Trotta
3070 105 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/977/KaonLTMeeting_4_15_20.pdf
3071 102 Richard Trotta
3072 95 Stephen Kay
----
3073 111 Richard Trotta
3074 100 Stephen Kay
h3. April 1, 2020
3075 138 Stephen Kay
3076 101 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/949/KaonLT_Meeting_01_04_20.pdf - RF timing "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/948/KaonLTMeeting_4_1_20.pdf
3077 41 Stephen Kay
3078 93 Richard Trotta
----
3079 111 Richard Trotta
3080 93 Richard Trotta
h3. March 18, 2020
3081
3082 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/942/DRAFT2_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
3083 93 Richard Trotta
3084 91 Richard Trotta
----
3085 111 Richard Trotta
3086 92 Richard Trotta
h3. March 11, 2020
3087 1 Richard Trotta
3088 94 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/940/KaonLT_Meeting_Mar_11.pdf "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/941/DRAFT1_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
3089 91 Richard Trotta
3090 88 Richard Trotta
----
3091 111 Richard Trotta
3092 90 Richard Trotta
h3. Feb 26, 2020
3093
3094
* Peter's changes to hcana should be coming soon. Richard will check with Mark when he is down there for an update.
3095 1 Richard Trotta
* Need to incorporate the latest "BCM updates":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/doc-public/ShowDocument?docid=1034 from Dave Mack.
3096 88 Richard Trotta
* Richard should look at the luminosity scalar analysis before and after the BCM changes once he gets his script working again.
3097 1 Richard Trotta
**  He is checking with Mark about this while he is down in jlab. 
3098
3099 86 Richard Trotta
----
3100 111 Richard Trotta
3101 87 Richard Trotta
h3. Feb 10, 2020 
3102 86 Richard Trotta
3103 1 Richard Trotta
----
3104 111 Richard Trotta
3105 83 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 22, 2020
3106
3107 85 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/937/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020_Draft1.pdf
3108 1 Richard Trotta
3109 83 Richard Trotta
----
3110 111 Richard Trotta
3111 81 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 15,2020
3112 82 Richard Trotta
3113 81 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/936/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020.pdf
3114
3115 78 Richard Trotta
----
3116 111 Richard Trotta
3117 78 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 8,2020
3118 1 Richard Trotta
3119 79 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/76
3120 1 Richard Trotta
3121
* Richard
3122
** PID efficiency script is coming together
3123
*** Tighter cuts and cuts on timing, beta, etc. will be needed for cleaner electron cuts
3124
*** Hcal cut should be changed to cut around the mean normalized value instead of cutting above or below it only. This will assure electrons aren't lost.
3125 80 Richard Trotta
3126 113 Richard Trotta
----
3127 112 Richard Trotta
3128 80 Richard Trotta
h2. 2019 Meetings
3129 141 Stephen Kay
3130
----
3131 111 Richard Trotta
3132
h3. Dec 17,2019
3133 77 Richard Trotta
3134
Reminder: Mark Jones' commissioning analysis meetings are bi-weekly and announced by Mark
3135
3136
* Stephen
3137
** Number of passes finished for HMS calorimeter
3138
*** Still wiggles in all passes
3139
** Finished his report on calibrations, "DC and Calorimeters":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/74
3140
** Put together a list of people's jobs from Regina over the next couple of months, "Regina Analysis Tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/75
3141 1 Richard Trotta
*** CUA will be putting together a similar list
3142 77 Richard Trotta
3143
* Richard
3144
** Fixed one error issue with SHMS calorimeter calibration code (discussed Dec 10th meeting), but still have one error
3145
** PID efficiency script plots are complete, but still some questions he needs to work out before a final version
3146
*** Eventually need to include tracking into PID efficiencies
3147
** Pete brought up the question for a number of multi-hits we are getting
3148
*** (Dead Time)+(Trigger efficiency)-EDTM
3149
3150 72 Richard Trotta
----
3151 111 Richard Trotta
3152 72 Richard Trotta
h3. Dec 10,2019
3153 74 Richard Trotta
3154
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/73
3155
3156
* Garth and Stephen were in the most recent SIDIS meeting
3157
** Wit had lots of hcana changes but they seem to be critical to our work 
3158 1 Richard Trotta
*** Changes such as new detector classes
3159
** Hopefully Wit will present these in the next commissioning meeting
3160 77 Richard Trotta
3161 74 Richard Trotta
* Stephen improved wiggles but still prevalent
3162
3163
* Richard finished HGCer calibrations, he concluded that the online parameters are sufficient
3164
** He also has been looking at SHMS calorimeter calibrations but has had issues running the scripts. Most likely a pathing issue.
3165
** The "tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks page has been updated with a section for efficiencies. 
3166
*** A PID efficiency script is currently being developed and hopefully should have some plots for our next meeting.
3167 75 Richard Trotta
3168 74 Richard Trotta
----
3169 111 Richard Trotta
3170 71 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 26,2019
3171
3172
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/480
3173
3174
* Stephen
3175
** DC SHMS, small-angle has poor performance
3176
*** Tighter cuts or PID (currently only looks for electrons)
3177
** Vardan said calorimeter wiggles are an ongoing issue with no current solution
3178
3179 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard
3180 71 Richard Trotta
** The calibrations are nearing completion with only the HG Cherenkov and SHMS calorimeter yet to be finished. There are also smaller issues with some DC and HMS calorimeter runs.
3181
*** Richard will pick up looking at the HGCer calibrations from Vijay's scripts. 
3182
*** Richard will also be looking at the SHMS calorimeter and with the suggestion of getting some negatively polarized SHMS runs from Hem.
3183
** The HMS Cherenkov is finished with the conclusion that the calibrations from the online runs are good
3184
** We can begin looking forward towards efficiencies. 
3185
*** Garth suggested that looking at PID may be an advantageous first steps. Precise definitions of these PIDs will need to be logged.
3186
*** Clear notes on efficiencies steps will be needed. They will need to be redefined multiple times in multiple ways. 
3187
3188
* Hem
3189 70 Richard Trotta
** Has been looking at the calorimeter as well. 
3190
** He has seen the second band in the spectra for some runs, we suggested further looks into HMS hodoscope and subsequently reference times. A recalibration will need to be performed.  
3191
3192
----
3193 111 Richard Trotta
3194 1 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 19,2019
3195 70 Richard Trotta
3196
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
3197
3198
* Richard
3199
** Finished up TDC cut paper going through the procedure (found "here":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500)
3200
** Needed to add Carlos pre-trigger designs to an appendix for the paper which clarifies the introduction section
3201
3202
* Stephen
3203
** Issues with DC calibration for only a few runs during each run period
3204
** "wiggles" in HMS calorimeter calibrations for some runs
3205
*** few runs where HMS cal totally failed (which was dependent on initial parameters)
3206
*** Spring looked worse than the rest (surprisingly), but this may be because online calibration wasn't great
3207 2 Richard Trotta
3208 68 Richard Trotta
----
3209 111 Richard Trotta
3210 68 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 5,2019
3211
3212
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
3213
3214
* Timing update (Stephen)
3215
** Reference times between Richard and Stephen are very similar and the GitHub is updated accordingly
3216
** Richard is going to add the trigger time cuts once the fall runs are finished (by end of week)
3217 1 Richard Trotta
** First pass of detector reference time parameter files finished
3218 68 Richard Trotta
3219
* Peter's hcana code (Richard and Stephen)
3220
** Peter's code does not remove ghost bands (already known), but now Stephen is seeing a strang horizontal band for just SHMS hodoscope 2D plots
3221
*** Richard has emailed Peter about the issue with no response yet (follow-up soon)
3222
** This means we still need the reference time amplitude cut with Peter's code but using just the amplitude cut with Mark's latest version of hcana should be sufficient for calibrations.
3223
3224
* Calibrations were decided to be done once per shift
3225
3226 127 Richard Trotta
* Next meeting schedule...
3227
** Small meetings Nov 12 and Nov 19 (at 3pm EST) so Richard and Stephen can iron out the timing and calibrations
3228 68 Richard Trotta
** November 26 (at 3pm EST) will be a larger meeting. 
3229
*** This is the rough deadline we made for finishing up calibrations. 
3230
*** This should be sufficient for all detectors (although hodoscope and HG which may persist). The ultimate goal is for all calibrations to be finished up before Winter break!!
3231
3232
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3233 111 Richard Trotta
3234 62 Richard Trotta
h3. Oct 22,2019
3235 64 Richard Trotta
3236 62 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
3237 65 Richard Trotta
3238
* SHMS Reference Time Amplitude Cuts(Stephen)
3239
** Extra peaks in HG from cross-talk and "ghost-bands" due to ADC screw up
3240
*** cuts applied on SHMS ADC ref time amplitude (greater than zero) done before any further event selection and histogram filling
3241
** This is a temporary fix to "ghost-bands" and cross talk
3242
*** Although for HG there is still a small peak. The hodoscope is fine.
3243
** The time window is easier to set now.
3244
** DC has been fine (since it uses TDC)
3245
*** DC calibrations should be good to complete, other detectors need more fixes (i.e. the remaining "ghost-band")
3246
** Hodoscope still bad but this might be because of that "ghost-band", needs to be further investigated
3247 1 Richard Trotta
3248 67 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana fixes for reference time (Richard)
3249
** Peter implemented changes to hcana
3250 1 Richard Trotta
** Two major issues...
3251 67 Richard Trotta
## Amplitude goes to null and integral is low or negative which causes a rate-dependent efficiency. 
3252 1 Richard Trotta
*** Peter has used the average pulse value acquired over a large sample of runs for each detector. 
3253 67 Richard Trotta
## Timing offset between EL-REAL and 3/4 is 130 ns which causes junk tracks at high SHMS rates (~6% of the time)
3254
*** Peter created a routine to find the best offset by means of matching TDC and ADC
3255
** Richard has been checking for bugs in the code. 
3256
*** It seems to be ready to implement, Richard emailed Peter for confirmation on the implementation in our group directory
3257 1 Richard Trotta
3258 67 Richard Trotta
* Calibration of HMS detectors when the timing is agreed upon by Stephen and Richard.
3259 65 Richard Trotta
** Besides hodoscope which still has an issue with the script
3260 62 Richard Trotta
** Stephen and Richard are having a meeting late next week to determine time window values
3261
*** These will be relatively final, but on the wider side if adjustments need to be made in the future
3262 1 Richard Trotta
3263 61 Richard Trotta
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3264 111 Richard Trotta
3265 61 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 24,2019
3266
3267 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
3268 61 Richard Trotta
3269 1 Richard Trotta
-----
3270 111 Richard Trotta
3271 59 Vijay Kumar
h3. Sep 10,2019
3272
3273 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/72 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
3274
3275 55 Stephen Kay
-----
3276 111 Richard Trotta
3277 55 Stephen Kay
h3. August 26, 2019
3278
3279 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/70 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/71 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
3280 54 Richard Trotta
3281
----
3282 111 Richard Trotta
3283 54 Richard Trotta
h3. June 21, 2019
3284 1 Richard Trotta
3285 54 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 
3286 42 Stephen Kay
3287
----
3288 111 Richard Trotta
3289 1 Richard Trotta
h3. June 14, 2019
3290 46 Richard Trotta
3291 42 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/64 "Update-Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/65 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/814/Analy_update3.pdf
3292
3293 35 Stephen Kay
3294 1 Richard Trotta
----
3295 111 Richard Trotta
3296 36 Vijay Kumar
h3. June 4, 2019
3297 1 Richard Trotta
3298 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/56 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/57 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/58 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/59 "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/61
3299 1 Richard Trotta
3300 35 Stephen Kay
3301 1 Richard Trotta
----
3302 111 Richard Trotta
3303 1 Richard Trotta
h3. May 21, 2019
3304
3305 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/52 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/? "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/53 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/54 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/55
3306
3307 1 Richard Trotta
----
3308 111 Richard Trotta
3309 1 Richard Trotta
h3. May 14, 2019
3310 35 Stephen Kay
3311 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/48 "Carlos' slides":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/49 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/50 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/51
3312 35 Stephen Kay
3313 1 Richard Trotta
----
3314 111 Richard Trotta
3315 1 Richard Trotta
h3. April 30, 2019
3316
3317 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/45 "Richard's slides in wiki":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_How-To "Brad Computing":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/46 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/47
3318 1 Richard Trotta
3319
----
3320
3321
h3. February 4, 2019
3322
3323
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/43 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/44
3324
3325 113 Richard Trotta
----
3326 112 Richard Trotta
3327 141 Stephen Kay
h2. 2018 Meetings
3328
3329 111 Richard Trotta
----
3330
3331
h3. August 21, 2018
3332 1 Richard Trotta
3333 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
3334 1 Richard Trotta
3335 35 Stephen Kay
----
3336 111 Richard Trotta
3337 35 Stephen Kay
h3. August 8, 2018
3338
3339 1 Richard Trotta
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
3340
3341 35 Stephen Kay
----
3342 111 Richard Trotta
3343 1 Richard Trotta
h3. August 3, 2018
3344 35 Stephen Kay
3345
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383
3346 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->*
3347 35 Stephen Kay
3348 1 Richard Trotta
----
3349 111 Richard Trotta
3350 1 Richard Trotta
h3. July 11, 2018
3351 35 Stephen Kay
3352 1 Richard Trotta
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #384
3353 35 Stephen Kay
3354 1 Richard Trotta
*Action items:*
3355 35 Stephen Kay
3356
* Update run plan, e.g. add prescales (Garth)
3357
* Check on details of: magnet cycling procedure, minimum angles, MCC fringe field steering, beam energy measurements, optics checks (Tanja)
3358
* Identify additional run coordinators (Tanja)
3359
* Encourage collaborators to take shifts, e.g. FIU (Pete)
3360
* Draft email about shifts etc. to collaboration (Tanja)
3361
* Develop diagnostic scripts and kaonLT specific (Richard, Ryan)
3362 1 Richard Trotta
* Continue documentation development, e.g. checklist, shift taker instructions, HowTo or link to generic Hall C HowTo, task list, web page (Richard, Garth)
3363 35 Stephen Kay
3364
*Discussions:*
3365
3366
* SHMS Aerogel Cherenkov: tray has been changed to SP-11 on 10 July, nominal time for change is 8 hours, one tray can stay in the hall to minimize overhead
3367
* HGC: waiting for re-installation
3368 1 Richard Trotta
* Trigger checkout: main items to keep in mind: fADC thresholds, timing HMS/SHMS - leading arm, possible rate limitations
3369
* Shifts
3370
* Diagnostics scripts and documentation
3371
* Personnel schedules
3372
3373
----
3374 111 Richard Trotta
3375 1 Richard Trotta
h3. June 28, 2018
3376
3377
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/34
3378
3379
*Action Items:*
3380
3381
* Develop and post shift schedule. Send out request. Find out who is KAONLT liaison (Tanja)
3382
* Contact potential run coordinators. (Tanja)
3383
* Aerogel tray exchange for start of experiment and coordination of future exchanges (Vladimir)
3384
* Update runplan and prepare documents needed for shift crew, e.g. run sheets (Garth)
3385
* Set up a web page to collect and link from Redmine - How-To documents, initial calibrations, etc. (Garth, Richard)
3386
* Adapt luminosity scan script to calculate kaon yields by run number for use during experiment by shift crew - has to be simple to use. (Richard)
3387
* Develop trigger/detector checkout plan (Tanja, initial draft)
3388
** Are all experts available at run start, experts needed: coincidence timing , Harp Scans, BCM calibrations, ...
3389
* Find out from JLab what the anticipated settings are for limit switches for both spectrometers and for separation angle in between them. Also find out what magnet cycling procedure should be used for L/T quality separation data (Tanja)
3390
* Find out if all aerogel trays needed for experiment can be stored inside Hall C to avoid having to open truck ramp (Vladimir)
3391
3392
*Analysis Updates:*
3393
3394
* Ryan 
3395
** resolving differences between his analysis and Richard's
3396
3397
* Richard
3398
** Discussed with Mark Jones and is cross checking his January luminosity scan analysis against Mark's. Realized that BCM calibrations (gains, offsets etc) are different - currently working on fixing that, presents current results - low curent point is ~10% below unity, discussion that this seems to indicate that BCM offsets are the issue as low current points would be most sensitive, is planning to also double-check the BCM calibration procedure - had discussion with Dave Mack at JLab
3399
** Presents a script developed for luminosity scans that determines yields for a run number input on command line. Discussion this could be good to adapt for kaon counting during experiment.
3400
3401
----
3402 111 Richard Trotta
3403 1 Richard Trotta
h3. May 31, 2018
3404 35 Stephen Kay
3405 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
3406 35 Stephen Kay
3407 1 Richard Trotta
----
3408 111 Richard Trotta
3409 1 Richard Trotta
h3. May 17, 2018 
3410 35 Stephen Kay
3411 2 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/29, "Ryan":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/DocDB/0009/000968/001/Presentation.pdf, "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
3412 35 Stephen Kay
3413 111 Richard Trotta
* Luminosity scans (Richard, Ryan)
3414 35 Stephen Kay
** Carbon scan from April seems consistent with no boiling, LH3 and LD2 show deviation from unity, should check effect of EDTM events on efficiencies
3415
** Carbon scans from January (low rates) have large deviations from unity, in particular behavior at higher currents (>40uA), e.g. cpu dead time, that is not yet understood
3416 1 Richard Trotta
** discussion about pre-scale factors
3417 35 Stephen Kay
3418
* Discussion about Richard's script extracting and printing information from report files and trees including histograms
3419
** Add option for looking at yields with cuts on cointime, target window, and missing mass
3420 1 Richard Trotta
** Add option to look at real peak vs. background level
3421 35 Stephen Kay
3422
* H(e,e'p) kinematics investigation for fall run (Samip)
3423 1 Richard Trotta
** Optimal range is between electron angles of 17-20 degrees, time required ranges from ~1 hour at 17 degrees to ~3 hour at 20 degrees, other angles may be of interest for disentangling charge and current dependent effects
3424 35 Stephen Kay
3425
* *Action Items*
3426
** Luminosity scans at low rates from January (Richard)
3427
** Luminosity scans from April with corrected efficiencies, e.d. DT (Ryan)
3428
** H(e,e'p) and H(e,e') kinematics for upcoming Kaon LT run (Samip)
3429
** Kaon LT detailed run plan (Garth, Pete, Tanja)
3430 1 Richard Trotta
** Preparations, e.g. report files, diagnostic histograms and real time monitoring, shift worker instructions, optimization of trees (all)
3431
3432
----
3433 111 Richard Trotta
3434 35 Stephen Kay
h3. May 10, 2018
3435 2 Richard Trotta
3436 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Hem":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/24, "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/23, "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/26
3437
3438
* Luminosity Scans January 2018 (Richard)
3439
** Tracking-based analysis for Runs 1415-1423, .. for now focus on HMS, typical HMS S1X rates are <
3440
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (Cer, Cal), acceptance (delta)
3441
** Efficiency calculation was investigated in detail and applied using scalers from trees
3442
** Results for carbon (normalized to 30uA) show large variation - need to understand
3443
** *Next steps:*
3444
*** Double check calculation of computer lifetime, look for differences in TRIG and PRETRIG scalers
3445
*** Check stability of pre-scale (Ryan saw changes within runs)
3446
*** Check if detector calibrations for runs are implemented correctly
3447 1 Richard Trotta
*** Analyze with Ryan's cuts
3448 35 Stephen Kay
3449
* Luminosity Scans April 2018 (Ryan)
3450
** Confirms Richard's earlier finding that scaler-based analysis is not reliable and that it's best to analyze event-by-event
3451
** Tracking-based analysis for runs 2073-2095
3452
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (TOF, Cal, Chi2), acceptance (delta and angles), BCM4a
3453
** Included most recent detector calibrations in replay of these runs
3454
** Efficiencies from report file mainly, may need to update tracking efficiency implementation
3455
** Found that calculations of computer deadtime requires different set of scalers for runs from January to those from April 2018
3456
** Results show carbon yields consistent with unity within error (0.5% error bars), and boiling for hydrogen and deuterium
3457 5 Richard Trotta
** *Next steps:*
3458 35 Stephen Kay
*** Check tracking efficiency
3459
3460 1 Richard Trotta
* *Global comments on Luminosity Scans (so far)*
3461 35 Stephen Kay
** April 2018 scans show hydrogen and deuterium target boiling on level of 3-4%, Carbon is consistent with no boiling, as expected - based on description, new targets are expected to have less boiling than those used previously, e.g. in FPI2. Double check this.
3462
** Efficiencies in report files need to be updated, e.g. CPU deadtime (Richard)
3463
** Check if BCM4a is the one closest to the target - get a map of the hall (Richard, Ryan)
3464
** Uncertainties on current
3465 1 Richard Trotta
** Detector calibrations
3466 35 Stephen Kay
** HMS vs. SHMS
3467
3468
* eK+ coincidence time from SIDIS Spring 2018 run (Samip)
3469
** Worked with Mark Jones on coincidence time calculation - now available in hcana (see Samip's 10 May 2018 email for more details)
3470
** runs used in this analysis: 3423 with Q2=3.1 GeV2 and W=2.78 GeV
3471
** Coincidence time spectrum shows peak separations >2 ns corresponding to different accelerator frequency
3472
** Missing mass spectra: Kaon peak clearly visible, also see pions even after cuts
3473 1 Richard Trotta
** Found that pions appear localized in phase space - seems to be due to end point in kinematic phase space
3474 2 Richard Trotta
** *Next steps:*
3475 35 Stephen Kay
*** Look for a run with kaon momentum closer to 3 GeV/c (aerogel threshold is ~3 GeV/c for kaons for n=1.015)
3476
3477
* Yield normalized ratios from SIDIS (Hem)
3478
** Yield ratios of data to MC match well in shape, but normalization seems not quite right
3479 4 Richard Trotta
** *Next steps:*
3480
*** Check if efficiencies, currents, run time etc. are taken into account correctly
3481
3482 35 Stephen Kay
----
3483 111 Richard Trotta
3484 4 Richard Trotta
h3. April 26, 2018
3485 35 Stephen Kay
3486 4 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard,":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/18 "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/25
3487 35 Stephen Kay
3488
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (earlier scan) - Richard
3489
** Shown is a scaler-based analysis using scalers from report file and from ROOT tree - the values are different, why that is has to be checked
3490
** Notes on efficiencies in report file:
3491
*** DT (EDTM) is not electronic deadtime. Instead use for now 50ns* trigger rate for HMS and 100ns* trigger rate for SHMS
3492
*** Cherenkov efficiency seems low (check if that is due to PID, thresholds, pi/e, etc)
3493
*** Tracking efficiency needs to be checked
3494
*** 3/4 trigger efficiency seems ok
3495
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (later scan) - Ryan
3496
** Fewer carbon runs than earlier scan
3497 111 Richard Trotta
** Shown is a tracking-based analysis using data from the ROOT trees
3498 35 Stephen Kay
** First results for carbon, LH3, and LD2, but efficiencies need to be checked
3499
* SIDIS analysis - Hem
3500
** Shown is a data/MC comparison for different kinematic settings. Agreement in shape is very good. Normalization has yet to be applied.
3501
** Discussion about agreement in z and apparent offset - relation of this offset with spectrometer offset
3502
* Analysis of exclusive events in SIDIS - Samip
3503
** Shown is a look at the first kaon events in exclusive limit of SIDIS data
3504
** Ongoing work on implementing coincidence time into tree
3505
* Discussion of run plan, and in particular possible low Q2/low energy
3506
** Assume that kaon low Q2=0.4 already included - have kinematics with specified beam energies, if needed
3507
** For pion form factor and LT, have two possible settings that can use the prescribed beam energies: Q2=1.45 and 0.35 GeV2 - prioritize towards the higher Q2 as not as sensitive to offsets
3508
** Garth will put this together in a draft email
3509 12 Richard Trotta
3510
----
3511 111 Richard Trotta
3512 12 Richard Trotta
h3. March 29, 2018
3513 35 Stephen Kay
3514 13 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/16 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/27
3515 35 Stephen Kay
3516
* Details of adding points to fall run plan - will be ready sooner, likely in week of 4/1 (Garth, Samip, Tanja)
3517
* Luminosity scans (Ryan, Andres, Richard, Pete)
3518
* Macros, SIDIS analysis (Hem, Anashe)
3519
* Elastic data (TBD)
3520 14 Richard Trotta
3521 18 Richard Trotta
----
3522 111 Richard Trotta
3523 18 Richard Trotta
h3. February 22, 2018
3524 35 Stephen Kay
3525 18 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Andres":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/19
3526 35 Stephen Kay
3527
*  Discussion of Andres' slides on elastic W calculation in hcana - initial issue with negative W values seems to be due to outdated information in standard.kinematics file. Additional investigation ongoing.
3528
* Brief description of Samip's work - working on coincidence timing decoding with JLab staff and re-optimization of kinematics
3529
* Discussion of Richard's slides on run plan kinematics and preparations -
3530
** everyone agrees that in general want to have as many L/T cross section separations as possible in a robust run plan balancing statistics vs. systematics
3531
** before actual run may want to do a 3D optimization in all kinematic variables to get the best possible delta(epsilon) for the L/T separations
3532
** for each setting will need 1-2 shifts for calibrations - need to negotiate with other experiments in run group
3533
** kinematics plots W-Q2 show that still need to do some optimization
3534
** run sheets: include raster size, update coincidence count labeling, and carbon target labeling
3535 26 Richard Trotta
* Discussion of next meeting. Garth at JLab 8-16 March - might have meeting during that time.
3536 35 Stephen Kay
3537
* *Action Items:*
3538
** Post slides/notes from this meeting and procedure to set up hcana in Redmine (Tanja)
3539
** Update run sheet and kinematic optimization for W/Q2 (Garth)
3540
** Circulate elastic calculations for kinematic settings (Samip)
3541
** Continue investigation of elastic data and run plan kinematics (Andres/Richard)
3542
** Test software installation instructions (Pete)
3543 32 Stephen Kay
** Draft email to JLab management about need for small angle beam pipe - need to have HMS minimum angle of less than 13 degrees for kaon L/T separations (Tanja) 
3544
3545 1 Richard Trotta
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