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h1. *Kaon LT Meetings*
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Kaon LT collaboration analysis meetings. Please add your talk to the meeting ahead of time. Add the newest meeting to the top of the list!
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h2. 2020 Meetings
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h3. December 16, 2020
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* Carlos
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1117/KaonLTMeeting_12_16_20.pdf
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** The issues with the scalers seem to be resolved. Further analysis on other lumi runs needs to be complete but the finish line is in sight.
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h3. December 2, 2020
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** Richard included the EDTM to Lumi analysis and found some old analysis of scalers by Mark Jones that he will compare. Ali and Richard met last week and will begin combining Ali's tracking studies with Richard's lumi analysis.
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h3. November 18, 2020
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* "Carlos":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1103/LiveTime_Study_cyero.pdf
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** He is investigating some of the EDTM rate dependence and sees a discrepancy between the total EDTM LT and CPU LT with a sudden dip at 20-30 kHz. More luminosity runs will need to be studied for a full conclusion.
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1101/KaonLTMeeting11_18_20.pdf
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** Scaler analysis matches Carlos' code now. Overall significant improvements were made through some cut adjustments and incorrect variable definitions.
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* Stephen
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** Updated the hallc_replay_lt with parameter files for all coin peaks.
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* Vijay
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Next meeting December 2nd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. November 4, 2020
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1092/KaonLTMeeting11_4_20.pdf
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** Scaler analysis is getting closer to an answer. An in-depth comparison of Carlos and Richard's analysis shows inconsistencies between the two.
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h3. October 28, 2020
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** Went over some of his tracking procedures for the report file implementation
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1091/KaonLTMeeting10_28_20.pdf
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** Luminosity analysis continues. There are still some issues but things have improved a bit.
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* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1090/KaonLT_Meeting_28_10_20.pdf
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** Discussion of CT peak analysis, progress and outline of what's left to do with this
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* Vijay
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** Dry run for Mark's hallc meeting tomorrow (10/29)
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Next meeting November 4th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. October 14, 2020
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* Ali
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** Working through the REPORT_FILES template to get everything working and outputting proper information.
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1085/KaonLTMeeting_10_14_20.pdf
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** Updates on lumi scans. There are many issues from Scalers to Tracking that need to be resolved.
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* Stephen
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** He has included a demo for using the python analysis script in the README.
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Next meeting October 28th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. September 23, 2020
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1078/KaonLTMeeting_9_23_20.pdf
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** A quick lumi analysis after the Pass1 runs. The results were compared to previously analyzed runs (5154-5158). There was some change but nothing huge. Some other runs with the same energy settings were analyzed as well. 
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** Showed some slides from u-channel meeting of omega and proton MM  plots. Then discussed some ideas for dealing with the hole in the HGCer.
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** Data fitting algorithm based on E.H. Bellamy paper. Extracts PMT spectra from ROOT file and makes a 1D projection histogram.
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Next meeting October 14th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. September 9, 2020
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** Still working on run list, GUI checks
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* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/567
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** New slim replay scripts and full replay scripts updated
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* Ali
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** Him and Stephen found an issue (already aware of) with zeros in the parameter files using Mark's hcana changes
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** Need to be vigilant of crashed replays because this is probably the issue
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* Vijay
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** Nearly finished with HGcer calibrations
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Next meeting September 23rd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. August 26, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/483 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/479
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** New tasks were created based on the previous discussions on objectives going forward. In the process of checking run sheets against the run list and camera/EPICS.
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** Updated on RF times. There were a few issues with some runs, but overall most are finished.
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** Hodoscope calibrations look similar to before. There is still the issue of the double bands in the time walk. This is ok because of the wide windows we still have. (See "hodoscope calibration section":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks#Calibrations-Mid-to-Late-August-2020)
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** Updated the SHMS HGCher analysis. The calibrations are coming along, but a little more work needs to be finished up.
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Next meeting September 9 @ 5 EST
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h3. July 29, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1029/klt_7_29_20.html "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/106
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* Stephen
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** Updates on scripts to set pedestal defaults and AdcTdc offsets after hcana change
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** Updated plan and schedule for the analysis going forward
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Next meeting August 26th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. July 8, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1023/SHMS%20Proton%20Absorption.ods "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1022/KaonLT_Meeting_Jul_8.pdf
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Next meeting July 29 @ 4:30 EST
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h3. June 24, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1014/Vijay_24_June_20.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1013/KaonLTMeeting_6_24_20.pdf
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Next meeting July 8th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. June 9, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1006/Vijay_9_June_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1007/KaonLT_Meeting_Jun_9.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1005/KaonLTMeeting_6_9_20.pdf
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Next meeting June 24th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. May 27, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1002/Vijay_26_May_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1003/KaonLT_Meeting_May_27%20%5BAutosaved%5D.pdf
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Next meeting June 9th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. May 13, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/993/KaonLT_Meeting_13_05_20.pdf - Python analysis scripts "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/998/KaonLTMeeting_5_13_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/997/KaonLT_Meeting_May_13.pdf "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/999/Vijay_13_May_20.pdf
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Next meeting May 27th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. April 29, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/984/KaonLTMeeting_4_29_20.pdf "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/985/KaonLT_Meeting_29_04_20.pdf - Python code planning "Mark's hcana tracking update":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/982/Updates-to-HCANA-tracking.pdf
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Next meeting May 13th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. April 15, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/977/KaonLTMeeting_4_15_20.pdf
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Next meeting April 29th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. April 1, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/949/KaonLT_Meeting_01_04_20.pdf - RF timing "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/948/KaonLTMeeting_4_1_20.pdf
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Next meeting April 15th @  4:30 EST
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h3. March 18, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/942/DRAFT2_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
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Next meeting April 1st @  4:30 EST
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h3. March 11, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/940/KaonLT_Meeting_Mar_11.pdf "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/941/DRAFT1_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
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Next meeting March 18th @  4:30 EST
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h3. Feb 26, 2020
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* Peter's changes to hcana should be coming soon. Richard will check with Mark when he is down there for an update.
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* Need to incorporate the latest "BCM updates":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/doc-public/ShowDocument?docid=1034 from Dave Mack.
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* Richard should look at the luminosity scalar analysis before and after the BCM changes once he gets his script working again.
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**  He is checking with Mark about this while he is down in jlab. 
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Next meeting March 11th @  4:30 EST
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h3. Feb 10, 2020 
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Next meeting Feb 26th @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 22, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/937/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020_Draft1.pdf
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Next meeting Feb 10 @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 15,2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/936/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020.pdf
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Next meeting Jan 22 @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 8,2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/76
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** PID efficiency script is coming together
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*** Tighter cuts and cuts on timing, beta, etc. will be needed for cleaner electron cuts
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*** Hcal cut should be changed to cut around the mean normalized value instead of cutting above or below it only. This will assure electrons aren't lost.
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h2. 2019 Meetings
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h3. Dec 17,2019
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Reminder: Mark Jones' commissioning analysis meetings are bi-weekly and announced by Mark
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** Number of passes finished for HMS calorimeter
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*** Still wiggles in all passes
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** Finished his report on calibrations, "DC and Calorimeters":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/74
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** Put together a list of people's jobs from Regina over the next couple of months, "Regina Analysis Tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/75
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*** CUA will be putting together a similar list
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** Fixed one error issue with SHMS calorimeter calibration code (discussed Dec 10th meeting), but still have one error
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** PID efficiency script plots are complete, but still some questions he needs to work out before a final version
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*** Eventually need to include tracking into PID efficiencies
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** Pete brought up the question for a number of multi-hits we are getting
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*** (Dead Time)+(Trigger efficiency)-EDTM
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Next meeting will be after the break; Wednesday, January 8th at 3 pm EST
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h3. Dec 10,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/73
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** Wit had lots of hcana changes but they seem to be critical to our work 
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*** Changes such as new detector classes
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** Hopefully Wit will present these in the next commissioning meeting
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* Stephen improved wiggles but still prevalent
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* Richard finished HGCer calibrations, he concluded that the online parameters are sufficient
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** He also has been looking at SHMS calorimeter calibrations but has had issues running the scripts. Most likely a pathing issue.
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** The "tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks page has been updated with a section for efficiencies. 
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*** A PID efficiency script is currently being developed and hopefully should have some plots for our next meeting.
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* Next meeting will be December 17th at 3 pm EST.
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h3. Nov 26,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/480
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** DC SHMS, small-angle has poor performance
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*** Tighter cuts or PID (currently only looks for electrons)
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** Vardan said calorimeter wiggles are an ongoing issue with no current solution
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** The calibrations are nearing completion with only the HG Cherenkov and SHMS calorimeter yet to be finished. There are also smaller issues with some DC and HMS calorimeter runs.
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*** Richard will pick up looking at the HGCer calibrations from Vijay's scripts. 
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*** Richard will also be looking at the SHMS calorimeter and with the suggestion of getting some negatively polarized SHMS runs from Hem.
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** The HMS Cherenkov is finished with the conclusion that the calibrations from the online runs are good
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** We can begin looking forward towards efficiencies. 
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*** Garth suggested that looking at PID may be an advantageous first steps. Precise definitions of these PIDs will need to be logged.
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*** Clear notes on efficiencies steps will be needed. They will need to be redefined multiple times in multiple ways. 
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** He has seen the second band in the spectra for some runs, we suggested further looks into HMS hodoscope and subsequently reference times. A recalibration will need to be performed.  
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h3. Nov 19,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
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** Finished up TDC cut paper going through the procedure (found "here":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500)
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** Needed to add Carlos pre-trigger designs to an appendix for the paper which clarifies the introduction section
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** Issues with DC calibration for only a few runs during each run period
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** "wiggles" in HMS calorimeter calibrations for some runs
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*** few runs where HMS cal totally failed (which was dependent on initial parameters)
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*** Spring looked worse than the rest (surprisingly), but this may be because online calibration wasn't great
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h3. Nov 5,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
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** Reference times between Richard and Stephen are very similar and the GitHub is updated accordingly
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** Richard is going to add the trigger time cuts once the fall runs are finished (by end of week)
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** First pass of detector reference time parameter files finished
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* Peter's hcana code (Richard and Stephen)
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** Peter's code does not remove ghost bands (already known), but now Stephen is seeing a strang horizontal band for just SHMS hodoscope 2D plots
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*** Richard has emailed Peter about the issue with no response yet (follow-up soon)
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** This means we still need the reference time amplitude cut with Peter's code but using just the amplitude cut with Mark's latest version of hcana should be sufficient for calibrations.
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** Small meetings Nov 12 and Nov 19 (at 3pm EST) so Richard and Stephen can iron out the timing and calibrations
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** November 26 (at 3pm EST) will be a larger meeting. 
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*** This is the rough deadline we made for finishing up calibrations. 
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*** This should be sufficient for all detectors (although hodoscope and HG which may persist). The ultimate goal is for all calibrations to be finished up before Winter break!!
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h3. Oct 22,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
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* SHMS Reference Time Amplitude Cuts(Stephen)
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** Extra peaks in HG from cross-talk and "ghost-bands" due to ADC screw up
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*** cuts applied on SHMS ADC ref time amplitude (greater than zero) done before any further event selection and histogram filling
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** This is a temporary fix to "ghost-bands" and cross talk
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*** Although for HG there is still a small peak. The hodoscope is fine.
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** The time window is easier to set now.
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** DC has been fine (since it uses TDC)
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*** DC calibrations should be good to complete, other detectors need more fixes (i.e. the remaining "ghost-band")
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** Hodoscope still bad but this might be because of that "ghost-band", needs to be further investigated
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* Peter's hcana fixes for reference time (Richard)
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** Peter implemented changes to hcana
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** Two major issues...
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## Amplitude goes to null and integral is low or negative which causes a rate-dependent efficiency. 
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*** Peter has used the average pulse value acquired over a large sample of runs for each detector. 
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## Timing offset between EL-REAL and 3/4 is 130 ns which causes junk tracks at high SHMS rates (~6% of the time)
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*** Peter created a routine to find the best offset by means of matching TDC and ADC
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** Richard has been checking for bugs in the code. 
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*** It seems to be ready to implement, Richard emailed Peter for confirmation on the implementation in our group directory
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* Calibration of HMS detectors when the timing is agreed upon by Stephen and Richard.
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** Besides hodoscope which still has an issue with the script
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** Stephen and Richard are having a meeting late next week to determine time window values
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*** These will be relatively final, but on the wider side if adjustments need to be made in the future
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h3. Sep 24,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
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h3. Sep 10,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/72 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
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h3. August 26, 2019
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/70 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/71 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
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h3. June 21, 2019
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*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 
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h3. June 14, 2019
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*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/64 "Update-Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/65 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/814/Analy_update3.pdf
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h3. June 4, 2019
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/56 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/57 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/58 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/59 "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/61
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h3. May 21, 2019
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/52 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/? "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/53 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/54 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/55
473 35 Stephen Kay
474
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476 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 14, 2019
477 1 Richard Trotta
478 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/48 "Carlos' slides":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/49 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/50 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/51
479 1 Richard Trotta
480 35 Stephen Kay
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482 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 30, 2019
483 1 Richard Trotta
484
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/45 "Richard's slides in wiki":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_How-To "Brad Computing":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/46 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/47
485 35 Stephen Kay
486 1 Richard Trotta
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h3. February 4, 2019
489
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/43 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/44
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494 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2018 Meetings
495 141 Stephen Kay
496
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497 111 Richard Trotta
498
h3. August 21, 2018
499
500 1 Richard Trotta
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
501 35 Stephen Kay
502 1 Richard Trotta
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503 35 Stephen Kay
504 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 8, 2018
505 35 Stephen Kay
506
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
507 1 Richard Trotta
508
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509 35 Stephen Kay
510 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 3, 2018
511 1 Richard Trotta
512 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383
513
*Links to talks->*
514 1 Richard Trotta
515 35 Stephen Kay
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516 1 Richard Trotta
517 111 Richard Trotta
h3. July 11, 2018
518 1 Richard Trotta
519 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #384
520 1 Richard Trotta
521 35 Stephen Kay
*Action items:*
522 1 Richard Trotta
523 35 Stephen Kay
* Update run plan, e.g. add prescales (Garth)
524
* Check on details of: magnet cycling procedure, minimum angles, MCC fringe field steering, beam energy measurements, optics checks (Tanja)
525
* Identify additional run coordinators (Tanja)
526
* Encourage collaborators to take shifts, e.g. FIU (Pete)
527
* Draft email about shifts etc. to collaboration (Tanja)
528
* Develop diagnostic scripts and kaonLT specific (Richard, Ryan)
529
* Continue documentation development, e.g. checklist, shift taker instructions, HowTo or link to generic Hall C HowTo, task list, web page (Richard, Garth)
530 1 Richard Trotta
531 35 Stephen Kay
*Discussions:*
532
533
* SHMS Aerogel Cherenkov: tray has been changed to SP-11 on 10 July, nominal time for change is 8 hours, one tray can stay in the hall to minimize overhead
534
* HGC: waiting for re-installation
535
* Trigger checkout: main items to keep in mind: fADC thresholds, timing HMS/SHMS - leading arm, possible rate limitations
536 1 Richard Trotta
* Shifts
537
* Diagnostics scripts and documentation
538
* Personnel schedules
539
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h3. June 28, 2018
543 1 Richard Trotta
544
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/34
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*Action Items:*
547
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* Develop and post shift schedule. Send out request. Find out who is KAONLT liaison (Tanja)
549
* Contact potential run coordinators. (Tanja)
550
* Aerogel tray exchange for start of experiment and coordination of future exchanges (Vladimir)
551
* Update runplan and prepare documents needed for shift crew, e.g. run sheets (Garth)
552
* Set up a web page to collect and link from Redmine - How-To documents, initial calibrations, etc. (Garth, Richard)
553
* Adapt luminosity scan script to calculate kaon yields by run number for use during experiment by shift crew - has to be simple to use. (Richard)
554
* Develop trigger/detector checkout plan (Tanja, initial draft)
555
** Are all experts available at run start, experts needed: coincidence timing , Harp Scans, BCM calibrations, ...
556
* Find out from JLab what the anticipated settings are for limit switches for both spectrometers and for separation angle in between them. Also find out what magnet cycling procedure should be used for L/T quality separation data (Tanja)
557
* Find out if all aerogel trays needed for experiment can be stored inside Hall C to avoid having to open truck ramp (Vladimir)
558
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*Analysis Updates:*
560
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* Ryan 
562
** resolving differences between his analysis and Richard's
563
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* Richard
565
** Discussed with Mark Jones and is cross checking his January luminosity scan analysis against Mark's. Realized that BCM calibrations (gains, offsets etc) are different - currently working on fixing that, presents current results - low curent point is ~10% below unity, discussion that this seems to indicate that BCM offsets are the issue as low current points would be most sensitive, is planning to also double-check the BCM calibration procedure - had discussion with Dave Mack at JLab
566
** Presents a script developed for luminosity scans that determines yields for a run number input on command line. Discussion this could be good to adapt for kaon counting during experiment.
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h3. May 31, 2018
571 1 Richard Trotta
572 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
573 1 Richard Trotta
574 35 Stephen Kay
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576 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 17, 2018 
577 1 Richard Trotta
578 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/29, "Ryan":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/DocDB/0009/000968/001/Presentation.pdf, "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
579 2 Richard Trotta
580 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity scans (Richard, Ryan)
581 111 Richard Trotta
** Carbon scan from April seems consistent with no boiling, LH3 and LD2 show deviation from unity, should check effect of EDTM events on efficiencies
582 35 Stephen Kay
** Carbon scans from January (low rates) have large deviations from unity, in particular behavior at higher currents (>40uA), e.g. cpu dead time, that is not yet understood
583
** discussion about pre-scale factors
584 1 Richard Trotta
585 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion about Richard's script extracting and printing information from report files and trees including histograms
586
** Add option for looking at yields with cuts on cointime, target window, and missing mass
587
** Add option to look at real peak vs. background level
588 1 Richard Trotta
589 35 Stephen Kay
* H(e,e'p) kinematics investigation for fall run (Samip)
590
** Optimal range is between electron angles of 17-20 degrees, time required ranges from ~1 hour at 17 degrees to ~3 hour at 20 degrees, other angles may be of interest for disentangling charge and current dependent effects
591 1 Richard Trotta
592 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items*
593
** Luminosity scans at low rates from January (Richard)
594
** Luminosity scans from April with corrected efficiencies, e.d. DT (Ryan)
595
** H(e,e'p) and H(e,e') kinematics for upcoming Kaon LT run (Samip)
596
** Kaon LT detailed run plan (Garth, Pete, Tanja)
597
** Preparations, e.g. report files, diagnostic histograms and real time monitoring, shift worker instructions, optimization of trees (all)
598 1 Richard Trotta
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h3. May 10, 2018
602 35 Stephen Kay
603 2 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hem":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/24, "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/23, "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/26
604 35 Stephen Kay
605
* Luminosity Scans January 2018 (Richard)
606
** Tracking-based analysis for Runs 1415-1423, .. for now focus on HMS, typical HMS S1X rates are <
607
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (Cer, Cal), acceptance (delta)
608
** Efficiency calculation was investigated in detail and applied using scalers from trees
609
** Results for carbon (normalized to 30uA) show large variation - need to understand
610
** *Next steps:*
611
*** Double check calculation of computer lifetime, look for differences in TRIG and PRETRIG scalers
612
*** Check stability of pre-scale (Ryan saw changes within runs)
613
*** Check if detector calibrations for runs are implemented correctly
614
*** Analyze with Ryan's cuts
615 1 Richard Trotta
616 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity Scans April 2018 (Ryan)
617
** Confirms Richard's earlier finding that scaler-based analysis is not reliable and that it's best to analyze event-by-event
618
** Tracking-based analysis for runs 2073-2095
619
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (TOF, Cal, Chi2), acceptance (delta and angles), BCM4a
620
** Included most recent detector calibrations in replay of these runs
621
** Efficiencies from report file mainly, may need to update tracking efficiency implementation
622
** Found that calculations of computer deadtime requires different set of scalers for runs from January to those from April 2018
623
** Results show carbon yields consistent with unity within error (0.5% error bars), and boiling for hydrogen and deuterium
624
** *Next steps:*
625 5 Richard Trotta
*** Check tracking efficiency
626 35 Stephen Kay
627
* *Global comments on Luminosity Scans (so far)*
628 1 Richard Trotta
** April 2018 scans show hydrogen and deuterium target boiling on level of 3-4%, Carbon is consistent with no boiling, as expected - based on description, new targets are expected to have less boiling than those used previously, e.g. in FPI2. Double check this.
629 35 Stephen Kay
** Efficiencies in report files need to be updated, e.g. CPU deadtime (Richard)
630
** Check if BCM4a is the one closest to the target - get a map of the hall (Richard, Ryan)
631
** Uncertainties on current
632
** Detector calibrations
633 1 Richard Trotta
** HMS vs. SHMS
634 35 Stephen Kay
635
* eK+ coincidence time from SIDIS Spring 2018 run (Samip)
636
** Worked with Mark Jones on coincidence time calculation - now available in hcana (see Samip's 10 May 2018 email for more details)
637
** runs used in this analysis: 3423 with Q2=3.1 GeV2 and W=2.78 GeV
638
** Coincidence time spectrum shows peak separations >2 ns corresponding to different accelerator frequency
639
** Missing mass spectra: Kaon peak clearly visible, also see pions even after cuts
640
** Found that pions appear localized in phase space - seems to be due to end point in kinematic phase space
641 1 Richard Trotta
** *Next steps:*
642 2 Richard Trotta
*** Look for a run with kaon momentum closer to 3 GeV/c (aerogel threshold is ~3 GeV/c for kaons for n=1.015)
643 35 Stephen Kay
644
* Yield normalized ratios from SIDIS (Hem)
645
** Yield ratios of data to MC match well in shape, but normalization seems not quite right
646
** *Next steps:*
647 4 Richard Trotta
*** Check if efficiencies, currents, run time etc. are taken into account correctly
648
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651 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 26, 2018
652 4 Richard Trotta
653 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard,":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/18 "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/25
654 4 Richard Trotta
655 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (earlier scan) - Richard
656
** Shown is a scaler-based analysis using scalers from report file and from ROOT tree - the values are different, why that is has to be checked
657
** Notes on efficiencies in report file:
658
*** DT (EDTM) is not electronic deadtime. Instead use for now 50ns* trigger rate for HMS and 100ns* trigger rate for SHMS
659
*** Cherenkov efficiency seems low (check if that is due to PID, thresholds, pi/e, etc)
660
*** Tracking efficiency needs to be checked
661
*** 3/4 trigger efficiency seems ok
662
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (later scan) - Ryan
663
** Fewer carbon runs than earlier scan
664
** Shown is a tracking-based analysis using data from the ROOT trees
665 111 Richard Trotta
** First results for carbon, LH3, and LD2, but efficiencies need to be checked
666 35 Stephen Kay
* SIDIS analysis - Hem
667
** Shown is a data/MC comparison for different kinematic settings. Agreement in shape is very good. Normalization has yet to be applied.
668
** Discussion about agreement in z and apparent offset - relation of this offset with spectrometer offset
669
* Analysis of exclusive events in SIDIS - Samip
670
** Shown is a look at the first kaon events in exclusive limit of SIDIS data
671
** Ongoing work on implementing coincidence time into tree
672
* Discussion of run plan, and in particular possible low Q2/low energy
673
** Assume that kaon low Q2=0.4 already included - have kinematics with specified beam energies, if needed
674
** For pion form factor and LT, have two possible settings that can use the prescribed beam energies: Q2=1.45 and 0.35 GeV2 - prioritize towards the higher Q2 as not as sensitive to offsets
675
** Garth will put this together in a draft email
676
677 12 Richard Trotta
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679 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 29, 2018
680 12 Richard Trotta
681 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/16 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/27
682 13 Richard Trotta
683 35 Stephen Kay
* Details of adding points to fall run plan - will be ready sooner, likely in week of 4/1 (Garth, Samip, Tanja)
684
* Luminosity scans (Ryan, Andres, Richard, Pete)
685
* Macros, SIDIS analysis (Hem, Anashe)
686
* Elastic data (TBD)
687
688 14 Richard Trotta
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690 111 Richard Trotta
h3. February 22, 2018
691 18 Richard Trotta
692 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Andres":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/19
693 18 Richard Trotta
694 35 Stephen Kay
*  Discussion of Andres' slides on elastic W calculation in hcana - initial issue with negative W values seems to be due to outdated information in standard.kinematics file. Additional investigation ongoing.
695
* Brief description of Samip's work - working on coincidence timing decoding with JLab staff and re-optimization of kinematics
696
* Discussion of Richard's slides on run plan kinematics and preparations -
697
** everyone agrees that in general want to have as many L/T cross section separations as possible in a robust run plan balancing statistics vs. systematics
698
** before actual run may want to do a 3D optimization in all kinematic variables to get the best possible delta(epsilon) for the L/T separations
699
** for each setting will need 1-2 shifts for calibrations - need to negotiate with other experiments in run group
700
** kinematics plots W-Q2 show that still need to do some optimization
701
** run sheets: include raster size, update coincidence count labeling, and carbon target labeling
702
* Discussion of next meeting. Garth at JLab 8-16 March - might have meeting during that time.
703 26 Richard Trotta
704 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items:*
705
** Post slides/notes from this meeting and procedure to set up hcana in Redmine (Tanja)
706
** Update run sheet and kinematic optimization for W/Q2 (Garth)
707
** Circulate elastic calculations for kinematic settings (Samip)
708
** Continue investigation of elastic data and run plan kinematics (Andres/Richard)
709
** Test software installation instructions (Pete)
710
** Draft email to JLab management about need for small angle beam pipe - need to have HMS minimum angle of less than 13 degrees for kaon L/T separations (Tanja) 
711 32 Stephen Kay
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