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h1. *Kaon LT Meetings*
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Kaon LT collaboration analysis meetings. Please add your talk to the meeting ahead of time. Add the newest meeting to the top of the list!
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h2. 2021 Meetings
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h3. March 31, 2021
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** Luminosity studies
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*** PionLT carbon runs
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**** Still having issues getting decent results. I think I am just missing a definition somewhere that I need to track down
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*** Uncertainties
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**** Easy to do, I just need to put it into my script
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** Explicit PS calculations
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*** I have gotten a rough script working for very simple runs (ie low rate, single spectrometer, calibration runs)
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*** I am trying to expand to lumi singles runs, things get a bit more complex so I am just working out the trigger correlations
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** Pass 2 runs
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*** DEF-files
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**** I checked out the DEF-files for our combination of the nested files
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**** There are a lot a files (~150!!!!) and may be hard to track so next week *we should make a flowchart together*
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**** Working on my list of branches for the next replay
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***** Mainly just working on my list of branches for the explicit PS calculations
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***** *Everyone should have a list of these branches by next mini-meeting (4/7/21)*
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** Updated DEF-File for the "full" replay
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*** Can't remove NData brances, Mark says they won't take up too many resources anyway
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*** Removed individual PMT info and raw info for many detectors, reduced file size by factor ~2
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** Updating DEF-files/scripts for calibrations as part of PionLT prep
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** Will focus on DEF-file/DEF-cut file updates over next week
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*** Will investigate HeeP replays over rest of this week.
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Next meeting April 14th @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 24, 2021
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* KaonLT Mini Meeting focusing on Pass2 preparation
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* "Task summary from Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Replay_2_Tasks
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Next meeting March 31st @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 17, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_17_21.pdf
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** I have re-run the carbon lumi runs with the changes to the replay events (i.e. All_events_NO_EDTM). The results look pretty good (within a few percent). There are still some trends I need to investigate for certain runs and I need to do the analysis for the pionLT carbon lumi data.
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* Mini meeting March 24th @ 4:30 EDT
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Next meeting March 31st @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 3, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_3_21.pdf
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** I found an issue with the replay scripts used where the EDTM was not being properly registered. There is a discrepancy between two replay scripts depending on what the Decode_master is set to (i.e. ALL_events vs ALL_events_NO_EDTM). 
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** The explicit calculation of the prescale has hit a snag because of the differences between 6 GeV and 12 GeV. I contacted Mark Jones, who explained there are significant differences in the ADC gate between the two eras (which my own findings confirmed). I have contacted Brad for further input.
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h3. February 17, 2021
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** Tried to remove some cumbersome elements to the analysis scripts without success. A few runs were added to a well behaved set of lumi runs with good consistency.
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* Nathan
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** Presented an update on the Hodoscope Calibrations: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1196/HodoscopeUpdate_2021Feb17.pdf
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Next meeting March 3rd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. February 3, 2021
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** A table with the aerogel efficiency for kaons is being created. It will be expanded to other particles and detectors.
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h3. January 20, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1172/KaonLTMeeting_1_20_21.pdf
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** All KaonLT carbon runs have been analyzed. There are still some issues that seem to be related to the pre-scale values. I may need to investigate the EDTM and/or the COIN events further to correct for these.
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Next meeting February 3rd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. January 6, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1153/KaonLTMeeting1_6_21.pdf
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** Analyzed most of the luminosity scans. There are a few issues I am investigating still which seem to be run related.
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Next meeting January 20th @ 4:30 EST
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h2. 2020 Meetings
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h3. December 2, 2020
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** Richard included the EDTM to Lumi analysis and found some old analysis of scalers by Mark Jones that he will compare. Ali and Richard met last week and will begin combining Ali's tracking studies with Richard's lumi analysis.
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h3. November 18, 2020
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* "Carlos":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1103/LiveTime_Study_cyero.pdf
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** He is investigating some of the EDTM rate dependence and sees a discrepancy between the total EDTM LT and CPU LT with a sudden dip at 20-30 kHz. More luminosity runs will need to be studied for a full conclusion.
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1101/KaonLTMeeting11_18_20.pdf
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** Scaler analysis matches Carlos' code now. Overall significant improvements were made through some cut adjustments and incorrect variable definitions.
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** Updated the hallc_replay_lt with parameter files for all coin peaks.
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* Vijay
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Next meeting December 2nd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. November 4, 2020
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1092/KaonLTMeeting11_4_20.pdf
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** Scaler analysis is getting closer to an answer. An in-depth comparison of Carlos and Richard's analysis shows inconsistencies between the two.
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h3. October 28, 2020
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** Went over some of his tracking procedures for the report file implementation
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1091/KaonLTMeeting10_28_20.pdf
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** Luminosity analysis continues. There are still some issues but things have improved a bit.
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* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1090/KaonLT_Meeting_28_10_20.pdf
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** Discussion of CT peak analysis, progress and outline of what's left to do with this
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* Vijay
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** Dry run for Mark's hallc meeting tomorrow (10/29)
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Next meeting November 4th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. October 14, 2020
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* Ali
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** Working through the REPORT_FILES template to get everything working and outputting proper information.
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1085/KaonLTMeeting_10_14_20.pdf
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** Updates on lumi scans. There are many issues from Scalers to Tracking that need to be resolved.
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** He has included a demo for using the python analysis script in the README.
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Next meeting October 28th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. September 23, 2020
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** A quick lumi analysis after the Pass1 runs. The results were compared to previously analyzed runs (5154-5158). There was some change but nothing huge. Some other runs with the same energy settings were analyzed as well. 
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** Showed some slides from u-channel meeting of omega and proton MM  plots. Then discussed some ideas for dealing with the hole in the HGCer.
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** Data fitting algorithm based on E.H. Bellamy paper. Extracts PMT spectra from ROOT file and makes a 1D projection histogram.
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Next meeting October 14th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. September 9, 2020
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** Still working on run list, GUI checks
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* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/567
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** New slim replay scripts and full replay scripts updated
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* Ali
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** Him and Stephen found an issue (already aware of) with zeros in the parameter files using Mark's hcana changes
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** Need to be vigilant of crashed replays because this is probably the issue
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* Vijay
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** Nearly finished with HGcer calibrations
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Next meeting September 23rd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. August 26, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/483 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/479
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** New tasks were created based on the previous discussions on objectives going forward. In the process of checking run sheets against the run list and camera/EPICS.
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** Updated on RF times. There were a few issues with some runs, but overall most are finished.
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** Hodoscope calibrations look similar to before. There is still the issue of the double bands in the time walk. This is ok because of the wide windows we still have. (See "hodoscope calibration section":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks#Calibrations-Mid-to-Late-August-2020)
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** Updated the SHMS HGCher analysis. The calibrations are coming along, but a little more work needs to be finished up.
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Next meeting September 9 @ 5 EST
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h3. July 29, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1029/klt_7_29_20.html "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/106
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** Updates on scripts to set pedestal defaults and AdcTdc offsets after hcana change
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** Updated plan and schedule for the analysis going forward
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Next meeting August 26th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. July 8, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1023/SHMS%20Proton%20Absorption.ods "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1022/KaonLT_Meeting_Jul_8.pdf
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Next meeting July 29 @ 4:30 EST
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h3. June 24, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1014/Vijay_24_June_20.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1013/KaonLTMeeting_6_24_20.pdf
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Next meeting July 8th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. June 9, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1006/Vijay_9_June_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1007/KaonLT_Meeting_Jun_9.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1005/KaonLTMeeting_6_9_20.pdf
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Next meeting June 24th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. May 27, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1002/Vijay_26_May_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1003/KaonLT_Meeting_May_27%20%5BAutosaved%5D.pdf
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Next meeting June 9th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. May 13, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/993/KaonLT_Meeting_13_05_20.pdf - Python analysis scripts "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/998/KaonLTMeeting_5_13_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/997/KaonLT_Meeting_May_13.pdf "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/999/Vijay_13_May_20.pdf
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Next meeting May 27th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. April 29, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/984/KaonLTMeeting_4_29_20.pdf "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/985/KaonLT_Meeting_29_04_20.pdf - Python code planning "Mark's hcana tracking update":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/982/Updates-to-HCANA-tracking.pdf
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Next meeting May 13th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. April 15, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/977/KaonLTMeeting_4_15_20.pdf
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h3. April 1, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/949/KaonLT_Meeting_01_04_20.pdf - RF timing "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/948/KaonLTMeeting_4_1_20.pdf
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Next meeting April 15th @  4:30 EST
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h3. March 18, 2020
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Next meeting April 1st @  4:30 EST
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h3. March 11, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/940/KaonLT_Meeting_Mar_11.pdf "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/941/DRAFT1_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
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h3. Feb 26, 2020
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* Peter's changes to hcana should be coming soon. Richard will check with Mark when he is down there for an update.
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* Richard should look at the luminosity scalar analysis before and after the BCM changes once he gets his script working again.
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**  He is checking with Mark about this while he is down in jlab. 
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Next meeting March 11th @  4:30 EST
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h3. Feb 10, 2020 
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Next meeting Feb 26th @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 22, 2020
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Next meeting Feb 10 @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 15,2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/936/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020.pdf
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Next meeting Jan 22 @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 8,2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/76
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** PID efficiency script is coming together
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*** Tighter cuts and cuts on timing, beta, etc. will be needed for cleaner electron cuts
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*** Hcal cut should be changed to cut around the mean normalized value instead of cutting above or below it only. This will assure electrons aren't lost.
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h2. 2019 Meetings
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h3. Dec 17,2019
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Reminder: Mark Jones' commissioning analysis meetings are bi-weekly and announced by Mark
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** Number of passes finished for HMS calorimeter
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*** Still wiggles in all passes
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** Finished his report on calibrations, "DC and Calorimeters":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/74
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** Put together a list of people's jobs from Regina over the next couple of months, "Regina Analysis Tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/75
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** Fixed one error issue with SHMS calorimeter calibration code (discussed Dec 10th meeting), but still have one error
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** PID efficiency script plots are complete, but still some questions he needs to work out before a final version
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*** Eventually need to include tracking into PID efficiencies
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** Pete brought up the question for a number of multi-hits we are getting
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Next meeting will be after the break; Wednesday, January 8th at 3 pm EST
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h3. Dec 10,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/73
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** Wit had lots of hcana changes but they seem to be critical to our work 
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*** Changes such as new detector classes
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** Hopefully Wit will present these in the next commissioning meeting
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* Stephen improved wiggles but still prevalent
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** He also has been looking at SHMS calorimeter calibrations but has had issues running the scripts. Most likely a pathing issue.
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** The "tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks page has been updated with a section for efficiencies. 
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* Next meeting will be December 17th at 3 pm EST.
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h3. Nov 26,2019
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** DC SHMS, small-angle has poor performance
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*** Tighter cuts or PID (currently only looks for electrons)
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** Vardan said calorimeter wiggles are an ongoing issue with no current solution
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** The calibrations are nearing completion with only the HG Cherenkov and SHMS calorimeter yet to be finished. There are also smaller issues with some DC and HMS calorimeter runs.
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*** Richard will pick up looking at the HGCer calibrations from Vijay's scripts. 
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** The HMS Cherenkov is finished with the conclusion that the calibrations from the online runs are good
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** We can begin looking forward towards efficiencies. 
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*** Garth suggested that looking at PID may be an advantageous first steps. Precise definitions of these PIDs will need to be logged.
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*** Clear notes on efficiencies steps will be needed. They will need to be redefined multiple times in multiple ways. 
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** He has seen the second band in the spectra for some runs, we suggested further looks into HMS hodoscope and subsequently reference times. A recalibration will need to be performed.  
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h3. Nov 19,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
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** Finished up TDC cut paper going through the procedure (found "here":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500)
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** Needed to add Carlos pre-trigger designs to an appendix for the paper which clarifies the introduction section
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** Issues with DC calibration for only a few runs during each run period
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** "wiggles" in HMS calorimeter calibrations for some runs
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*** few runs where HMS cal totally failed (which was dependent on initial parameters)
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*** Spring looked worse than the rest (surprisingly), but this may be because online calibration wasn't great
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h3. Nov 5,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
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** Reference times between Richard and Stephen are very similar and the GitHub is updated accordingly
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** Richard is going to add the trigger time cuts once the fall runs are finished (by end of week)
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** First pass of detector reference time parameter files finished
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* Peter's hcana code (Richard and Stephen)
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** Peter's code does not remove ghost bands (already known), but now Stephen is seeing a strang horizontal band for just SHMS hodoscope 2D plots
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*** Richard has emailed Peter about the issue with no response yet (follow-up soon)
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** This means we still need the reference time amplitude cut with Peter's code but using just the amplitude cut with Mark's latest version of hcana should be sufficient for calibrations.
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** Small meetings Nov 12 and Nov 19 (at 3pm EST) so Richard and Stephen can iron out the timing and calibrations
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** November 26 (at 3pm EST) will be a larger meeting. 
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*** This is the rough deadline we made for finishing up calibrations. 
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*** This should be sufficient for all detectors (although hodoscope and HG which may persist). The ultimate goal is for all calibrations to be finished up before Winter break!!
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h3. Oct 22,2019
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490 64 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
491 62 Richard Trotta
492 65 Richard Trotta
* SHMS Reference Time Amplitude Cuts(Stephen)
493
** Extra peaks in HG from cross-talk and "ghost-bands" due to ADC screw up
494
*** cuts applied on SHMS ADC ref time amplitude (greater than zero) done before any further event selection and histogram filling
495
** This is a temporary fix to "ghost-bands" and cross talk
496
*** Although for HG there is still a small peak. The hodoscope is fine.
497
** The time window is easier to set now.
498
** DC has been fine (since it uses TDC)
499
*** DC calibrations should be good to complete, other detectors need more fixes (i.e. the remaining "ghost-band")
500
** Hodoscope still bad but this might be because of that "ghost-band", needs to be further investigated
501
502 1 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana fixes for reference time (Richard)
503 67 Richard Trotta
** Peter implemented changes to hcana
504
** Two major issues...
505 1 Richard Trotta
## Amplitude goes to null and integral is low or negative which causes a rate-dependent efficiency. 
506 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter has used the average pulse value acquired over a large sample of runs for each detector. 
507 1 Richard Trotta
## Timing offset between EL-REAL and 3/4 is 130 ns which causes junk tracks at high SHMS rates (~6% of the time)
508 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter created a routine to find the best offset by means of matching TDC and ADC
509
** Richard has been checking for bugs in the code. 
510
*** It seems to be ready to implement, Richard emailed Peter for confirmation on the implementation in our group directory
511
512 1 Richard Trotta
* Calibration of HMS detectors when the timing is agreed upon by Stephen and Richard.
513 67 Richard Trotta
** Besides hodoscope which still has an issue with the script
514 65 Richard Trotta
** Stephen and Richard are having a meeting late next week to determine time window values
515 62 Richard Trotta
*** These will be relatively final, but on the wider side if adjustments need to be made in the future
516
517 1 Richard Trotta
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519 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 24,2019
520 61 Richard Trotta
521
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
522 1 Richard Trotta
523 61 Richard Trotta
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525 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 10,2019
526 59 Vijay Kumar
527
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/72 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
528 1 Richard Trotta
529
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530 55 Stephen Kay
531 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 26, 2019
532 55 Stephen Kay
533
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/70 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/71 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
534 1 Richard Trotta
535 54 Richard Trotta
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536
537 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 21, 2019
538 54 Richard Trotta
539 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 
540 54 Richard Trotta
541 42 Stephen Kay
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542
543 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 14, 2019
544 1 Richard Trotta
545 46 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/64 "Update-Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/65 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/814/Analy_update3.pdf
546 42 Stephen Kay
547
548 35 Stephen Kay
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549 1 Richard Trotta
550 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 4, 2019
551 36 Vijay Kumar
552 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/56 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/57 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/58 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/59 "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/61
553 35 Stephen Kay
554 1 Richard Trotta
555 35 Stephen Kay
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556 1 Richard Trotta
557 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 21, 2019
558 1 Richard Trotta
559
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/52 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/? "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/53 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/54 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/55
560 35 Stephen Kay
561
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562 1 Richard Trotta
563 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 14, 2019
564 1 Richard Trotta
565 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/48 "Carlos' slides":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/49 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/50 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/51
566 1 Richard Trotta
567 35 Stephen Kay
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568 1 Richard Trotta
569 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 30, 2019
570 1 Richard Trotta
571
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/45 "Richard's slides in wiki":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_How-To "Brad Computing":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/46 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/47
572 35 Stephen Kay
573 1 Richard Trotta
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574
575
h3. February 4, 2019
576
577
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/43 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/44
578
579
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580 113 Richard Trotta
581 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2018 Meetings
582 141 Stephen Kay
583
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584 111 Richard Trotta
585
h3. August 21, 2018
586
587 1 Richard Trotta
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
588 35 Stephen Kay
589 1 Richard Trotta
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590 35 Stephen Kay
591 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 8, 2018
592 35 Stephen Kay
593
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
594 1 Richard Trotta
595
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596 35 Stephen Kay
597 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 3, 2018
598 1 Richard Trotta
599 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383
600
*Links to talks->*
601 1 Richard Trotta
602 35 Stephen Kay
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603 1 Richard Trotta
604 111 Richard Trotta
h3. July 11, 2018
605 1 Richard Trotta
606 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #384
607 1 Richard Trotta
608 35 Stephen Kay
*Action items:*
609 1 Richard Trotta
610 35 Stephen Kay
* Update run plan, e.g. add prescales (Garth)
611
* Check on details of: magnet cycling procedure, minimum angles, MCC fringe field steering, beam energy measurements, optics checks (Tanja)
612
* Identify additional run coordinators (Tanja)
613
* Encourage collaborators to take shifts, e.g. FIU (Pete)
614
* Draft email about shifts etc. to collaboration (Tanja)
615
* Develop diagnostic scripts and kaonLT specific (Richard, Ryan)
616
* Continue documentation development, e.g. checklist, shift taker instructions, HowTo or link to generic Hall C HowTo, task list, web page (Richard, Garth)
617 1 Richard Trotta
618 35 Stephen Kay
*Discussions:*
619
620
* SHMS Aerogel Cherenkov: tray has been changed to SP-11 on 10 July, nominal time for change is 8 hours, one tray can stay in the hall to minimize overhead
621
* HGC: waiting for re-installation
622
* Trigger checkout: main items to keep in mind: fADC thresholds, timing HMS/SHMS - leading arm, possible rate limitations
623 1 Richard Trotta
* Shifts
624
* Diagnostics scripts and documentation
625
* Personnel schedules
626
627
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628
629 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 28, 2018
630 1 Richard Trotta
631
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/34
632
633
*Action Items:*
634
635
* Develop and post shift schedule. Send out request. Find out who is KAONLT liaison (Tanja)
636
* Contact potential run coordinators. (Tanja)
637
* Aerogel tray exchange for start of experiment and coordination of future exchanges (Vladimir)
638
* Update runplan and prepare documents needed for shift crew, e.g. run sheets (Garth)
639
* Set up a web page to collect and link from Redmine - How-To documents, initial calibrations, etc. (Garth, Richard)
640
* Adapt luminosity scan script to calculate kaon yields by run number for use during experiment by shift crew - has to be simple to use. (Richard)
641
* Develop trigger/detector checkout plan (Tanja, initial draft)
642
** Are all experts available at run start, experts needed: coincidence timing , Harp Scans, BCM calibrations, ...
643
* Find out from JLab what the anticipated settings are for limit switches for both spectrometers and for separation angle in between them. Also find out what magnet cycling procedure should be used for L/T quality separation data (Tanja)
644
* Find out if all aerogel trays needed for experiment can be stored inside Hall C to avoid having to open truck ramp (Vladimir)
645
646
*Analysis Updates:*
647
648
* Ryan 
649
** resolving differences between his analysis and Richard's
650
651
* Richard
652
** Discussed with Mark Jones and is cross checking his January luminosity scan analysis against Mark's. Realized that BCM calibrations (gains, offsets etc) are different - currently working on fixing that, presents current results - low curent point is ~10% below unity, discussion that this seems to indicate that BCM offsets are the issue as low current points would be most sensitive, is planning to also double-check the BCM calibration procedure - had discussion with Dave Mack at JLab
653
** Presents a script developed for luminosity scans that determines yields for a run number input on command line. Discussion this could be good to adapt for kaon counting during experiment.
654
655
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656
657 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 31, 2018
658 1 Richard Trotta
659 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
660 1 Richard Trotta
661 35 Stephen Kay
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662 1 Richard Trotta
663 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 17, 2018 
664 1 Richard Trotta
665 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/29, "Ryan":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/DocDB/0009/000968/001/Presentation.pdf, "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
666 2 Richard Trotta
667 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity scans (Richard, Ryan)
668 111 Richard Trotta
** Carbon scan from April seems consistent with no boiling, LH3 and LD2 show deviation from unity, should check effect of EDTM events on efficiencies
669 35 Stephen Kay
** Carbon scans from January (low rates) have large deviations from unity, in particular behavior at higher currents (>40uA), e.g. cpu dead time, that is not yet understood
670
** discussion about pre-scale factors
671 1 Richard Trotta
672 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion about Richard's script extracting and printing information from report files and trees including histograms
673
** Add option for looking at yields with cuts on cointime, target window, and missing mass
674
** Add option to look at real peak vs. background level
675 1 Richard Trotta
676 35 Stephen Kay
* H(e,e'p) kinematics investigation for fall run (Samip)
677
** Optimal range is between electron angles of 17-20 degrees, time required ranges from ~1 hour at 17 degrees to ~3 hour at 20 degrees, other angles may be of interest for disentangling charge and current dependent effects
678 1 Richard Trotta
679 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items*
680
** Luminosity scans at low rates from January (Richard)
681
** Luminosity scans from April with corrected efficiencies, e.d. DT (Ryan)
682
** H(e,e'p) and H(e,e') kinematics for upcoming Kaon LT run (Samip)
683
** Kaon LT detailed run plan (Garth, Pete, Tanja)
684
** Preparations, e.g. report files, diagnostic histograms and real time monitoring, shift worker instructions, optimization of trees (all)
685 1 Richard Trotta
686
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687
688 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 10, 2018
689 35 Stephen Kay
690 2 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hem":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/24, "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/23, "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/26
691 35 Stephen Kay
692
* Luminosity Scans January 2018 (Richard)
693
** Tracking-based analysis for Runs 1415-1423, .. for now focus on HMS, typical HMS S1X rates are <
694
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (Cer, Cal), acceptance (delta)
695
** Efficiency calculation was investigated in detail and applied using scalers from trees
696
** Results for carbon (normalized to 30uA) show large variation - need to understand
697
** *Next steps:*
698
*** Double check calculation of computer lifetime, look for differences in TRIG and PRETRIG scalers
699
*** Check stability of pre-scale (Ryan saw changes within runs)
700
*** Check if detector calibrations for runs are implemented correctly
701
*** Analyze with Ryan's cuts
702 1 Richard Trotta
703 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity Scans April 2018 (Ryan)
704
** Confirms Richard's earlier finding that scaler-based analysis is not reliable and that it's best to analyze event-by-event
705
** Tracking-based analysis for runs 2073-2095
706
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (TOF, Cal, Chi2), acceptance (delta and angles), BCM4a
707
** Included most recent detector calibrations in replay of these runs
708
** Efficiencies from report file mainly, may need to update tracking efficiency implementation
709
** Found that calculations of computer deadtime requires different set of scalers for runs from January to those from April 2018
710
** Results show carbon yields consistent with unity within error (0.5% error bars), and boiling for hydrogen and deuterium
711
** *Next steps:*
712 5 Richard Trotta
*** Check tracking efficiency
713 35 Stephen Kay
714
* *Global comments on Luminosity Scans (so far)*
715 1 Richard Trotta
** April 2018 scans show hydrogen and deuterium target boiling on level of 3-4%, Carbon is consistent with no boiling, as expected - based on description, new targets are expected to have less boiling than those used previously, e.g. in FPI2. Double check this.
716 35 Stephen Kay
** Efficiencies in report files need to be updated, e.g. CPU deadtime (Richard)
717
** Check if BCM4a is the one closest to the target - get a map of the hall (Richard, Ryan)
718
** Uncertainties on current
719
** Detector calibrations
720 1 Richard Trotta
** HMS vs. SHMS
721 35 Stephen Kay
722
* eK+ coincidence time from SIDIS Spring 2018 run (Samip)
723
** Worked with Mark Jones on coincidence time calculation - now available in hcana (see Samip's 10 May 2018 email for more details)
724
** runs used in this analysis: 3423 with Q2=3.1 GeV2 and W=2.78 GeV
725
** Coincidence time spectrum shows peak separations >2 ns corresponding to different accelerator frequency
726
** Missing mass spectra: Kaon peak clearly visible, also see pions even after cuts
727
** Found that pions appear localized in phase space - seems to be due to end point in kinematic phase space
728 1 Richard Trotta
** *Next steps:*
729 2 Richard Trotta
*** Look for a run with kaon momentum closer to 3 GeV/c (aerogel threshold is ~3 GeV/c for kaons for n=1.015)
730 35 Stephen Kay
731
* Yield normalized ratios from SIDIS (Hem)
732
** Yield ratios of data to MC match well in shape, but normalization seems not quite right
733
** *Next steps:*
734 4 Richard Trotta
*** Check if efficiencies, currents, run time etc. are taken into account correctly
735
736
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737 35 Stephen Kay
738 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 26, 2018
739 4 Richard Trotta
740 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard,":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/18 "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/25
741 4 Richard Trotta
742 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (earlier scan) - Richard
743
** Shown is a scaler-based analysis using scalers from report file and from ROOT tree - the values are different, why that is has to be checked
744
** Notes on efficiencies in report file:
745
*** DT (EDTM) is not electronic deadtime. Instead use for now 50ns* trigger rate for HMS and 100ns* trigger rate for SHMS
746
*** Cherenkov efficiency seems low (check if that is due to PID, thresholds, pi/e, etc)
747
*** Tracking efficiency needs to be checked
748
*** 3/4 trigger efficiency seems ok
749
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (later scan) - Ryan
750
** Fewer carbon runs than earlier scan
751
** Shown is a tracking-based analysis using data from the ROOT trees
752 111 Richard Trotta
** First results for carbon, LH3, and LD2, but efficiencies need to be checked
753 35 Stephen Kay
* SIDIS analysis - Hem
754
** Shown is a data/MC comparison for different kinematic settings. Agreement in shape is very good. Normalization has yet to be applied.
755
** Discussion about agreement in z and apparent offset - relation of this offset with spectrometer offset
756
* Analysis of exclusive events in SIDIS - Samip
757
** Shown is a look at the first kaon events in exclusive limit of SIDIS data
758
** Ongoing work on implementing coincidence time into tree
759
* Discussion of run plan, and in particular possible low Q2/low energy
760
** Assume that kaon low Q2=0.4 already included - have kinematics with specified beam energies, if needed
761
** For pion form factor and LT, have two possible settings that can use the prescribed beam energies: Q2=1.45 and 0.35 GeV2 - prioritize towards the higher Q2 as not as sensitive to offsets
762
** Garth will put this together in a draft email
763
764 12 Richard Trotta
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765
766 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 29, 2018
767 12 Richard Trotta
768 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/16 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/27
769 13 Richard Trotta
770 35 Stephen Kay
* Details of adding points to fall run plan - will be ready sooner, likely in week of 4/1 (Garth, Samip, Tanja)
771
* Luminosity scans (Ryan, Andres, Richard, Pete)
772
* Macros, SIDIS analysis (Hem, Anashe)
773
* Elastic data (TBD)
774
775 14 Richard Trotta
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776 18 Richard Trotta
777 111 Richard Trotta
h3. February 22, 2018
778 18 Richard Trotta
779 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Andres":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/19
780 18 Richard Trotta
781 35 Stephen Kay
*  Discussion of Andres' slides on elastic W calculation in hcana - initial issue with negative W values seems to be due to outdated information in standard.kinematics file. Additional investigation ongoing.
782
* Brief description of Samip's work - working on coincidence timing decoding with JLab staff and re-optimization of kinematics
783
* Discussion of Richard's slides on run plan kinematics and preparations -
784
** everyone agrees that in general want to have as many L/T cross section separations as possible in a robust run plan balancing statistics vs. systematics
785
** before actual run may want to do a 3D optimization in all kinematic variables to get the best possible delta(epsilon) for the L/T separations
786
** for each setting will need 1-2 shifts for calibrations - need to negotiate with other experiments in run group
787
** kinematics plots W-Q2 show that still need to do some optimization
788
** run sheets: include raster size, update coincidence count labeling, and carbon target labeling
789
* Discussion of next meeting. Garth at JLab 8-16 March - might have meeting during that time.
790 26 Richard Trotta
791 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items:*
792
** Post slides/notes from this meeting and procedure to set up hcana in Redmine (Tanja)
793
** Update run sheet and kinematic optimization for W/Q2 (Garth)
794
** Circulate elastic calculations for kinematic settings (Samip)
795
** Continue investigation of elastic data and run plan kinematics (Andres/Richard)
796
** Test software installation instructions (Pete)
797
** Draft email to JLab management about need for small angle beam pipe - need to have HMS minimum angle of less than 13 degrees for kaon L/T separations (Tanja) 
798 32 Stephen Kay
799
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