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h1. *Kaon LT Meetings*
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Kaon LT collaboration analysis meetings. Please add your talk to the meeting ahead of time. Add the newest meeting to the top of the list!
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h2. 2021 Meetings
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h3. April 28, 2021
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h3. April 14, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_4_14_21.pdf
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** Updated Lumi carbon plots with uncertainties. PID and current cuts need to be played around with a bit to see if they improve things (as uncertainties don't explain any boiling-type behaviors). 
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** Some PionLT carbon runs were looked at but there are still some issues (either cut or pathing related).
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h3. March 31, 2021
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** Luminosity studies
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*** PionLT carbon runs
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**** Still having issues getting decent results. I think I am just missing a definition somewhere that I need to track down
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*** Uncertainties
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**** Easy to do, I just need to put it into my script
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** Explicit PS calculations
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*** I have gotten a rough script working for very simple runs (ie low rate, single spectrometer, calibration runs)
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*** I am trying to expand to lumi singles runs, things get a bit more complex so I am just working out the trigger correlations
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** Pass 2 runs
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*** DEF-files
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**** I checked out the DEF-files for our combination of the nested files
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**** There are a lot a files (~150!!!!) and may be hard to track so next week *we should make a flowchart together*
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**** Working on my list of branches for the next replay
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***** Mainly just working on my list of branches for the explicit PS calculations
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***** *Everyone should have a list of these branches by next mini-meeting (4/7/21)*
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** Updated DEF-File for the "full" replay
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*** Can't remove NData brances, Mark says they won't take up too many resources anyway
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*** Removed individual PMT info and raw info for many detectors, reduced file size by factor ~2
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** Updating DEF-files/scripts for calibrations as part of PionLT prep
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** Will focus on DEF-file/DEF-cut file updates over next week
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*** Will investigate HeeP replays over rest of this week.
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Next meeting April 14th @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 24, 2021
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* KaonLT Mini Meeting focusing on Pass2 preparation
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* "Task summary from Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Replay_2_Tasks
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Next meeting March 31st @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 17, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_17_21.pdf
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** I have re-run the carbon lumi runs with the changes to the replay events (i.e. All_events_NO_EDTM). The results look pretty good (within a few percent). There are still some trends I need to investigate for certain runs and I need to do the analysis for the pionLT carbon lumi data.
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* Mini meeting March 24th @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 3, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_3_21.pdf
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** I found an issue with the replay scripts used where the EDTM was not being properly registered. There is a discrepancy between two replay scripts depending on what the Decode_master is set to (i.e. ALL_events vs ALL_events_NO_EDTM). 
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** The explicit calculation of the prescale has hit a snag because of the differences between 6 GeV and 12 GeV. I contacted Mark Jones, who explained there are significant differences in the ADC gate between the two eras (which my own findings confirmed). I have contacted Brad for further input.
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h3. February 17, 2021
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** Tried to remove some cumbersome elements to the analysis scripts without success. A few runs were added to a well behaved set of lumi runs with good consistency.
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** Presented an update on the Hodoscope Calibrations: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1196/HodoscopeUpdate_2021Feb17.pdf
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Next meeting March 3rd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. February 3, 2021
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** A table with the aerogel efficiency for kaons is being created. It will be expanded to other particles and detectors.
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h3. January 20, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1172/KaonLTMeeting_1_20_21.pdf
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** All KaonLT carbon runs have been analyzed. There are still some issues that seem to be related to the pre-scale values. I may need to investigate the EDTM and/or the COIN events further to correct for these.
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Next meeting February 3rd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. January 6, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1153/KaonLTMeeting1_6_21.pdf
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** Analyzed most of the luminosity scans. There are a few issues I am investigating still which seem to be run related.
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Next meeting January 20th @ 4:30 EST
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h2. 2020 Meetings
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h3. December 2, 2020
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** Richard included the EDTM to Lumi analysis and found some old analysis of scalers by Mark Jones that he will compare. Ali and Richard met last week and will begin combining Ali's tracking studies with Richard's lumi analysis.
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h3. November 18, 2020
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* "Carlos":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1103/LiveTime_Study_cyero.pdf
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** He is investigating some of the EDTM rate dependence and sees a discrepancy between the total EDTM LT and CPU LT with a sudden dip at 20-30 kHz. More luminosity runs will need to be studied for a full conclusion.
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1101/KaonLTMeeting11_18_20.pdf
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** Scaler analysis matches Carlos' code now. Overall significant improvements were made through some cut adjustments and incorrect variable definitions.
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** Updated the hallc_replay_lt with parameter files for all coin peaks.
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* Vijay
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Next meeting December 2nd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. November 4, 2020
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1092/KaonLTMeeting11_4_20.pdf
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** Scaler analysis is getting closer to an answer. An in-depth comparison of Carlos and Richard's analysis shows inconsistencies between the two.
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h3. October 28, 2020
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** Went over some of his tracking procedures for the report file implementation
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1091/KaonLTMeeting10_28_20.pdf
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** Luminosity analysis continues. There are still some issues but things have improved a bit.
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* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1090/KaonLT_Meeting_28_10_20.pdf
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** Discussion of CT peak analysis, progress and outline of what's left to do with this
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* Vijay
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** Dry run for Mark's hallc meeting tomorrow (10/29)
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Next meeting November 4th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. October 14, 2020
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* Ali
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** Working through the REPORT_FILES template to get everything working and outputting proper information.
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1085/KaonLTMeeting_10_14_20.pdf
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** Updates on lumi scans. There are many issues from Scalers to Tracking that need to be resolved.
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** He has included a demo for using the python analysis script in the README.
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Next meeting October 28th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. September 23, 2020
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** A quick lumi analysis after the Pass1 runs. The results were compared to previously analyzed runs (5154-5158). There was some change but nothing huge. Some other runs with the same energy settings were analyzed as well. 
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** Showed some slides from u-channel meeting of omega and proton MM  plots. Then discussed some ideas for dealing with the hole in the HGCer.
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** Data fitting algorithm based on E.H. Bellamy paper. Extracts PMT spectra from ROOT file and makes a 1D projection histogram.
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Next meeting October 14th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. September 9, 2020
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** Still working on run list, GUI checks
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* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/567
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** New slim replay scripts and full replay scripts updated
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* Ali
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** Him and Stephen found an issue (already aware of) with zeros in the parameter files using Mark's hcana changes
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** Need to be vigilant of crashed replays because this is probably the issue
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* Vijay
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** Nearly finished with HGcer calibrations
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Next meeting September 23rd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. August 26, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/483 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/479
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** New tasks were created based on the previous discussions on objectives going forward. In the process of checking run sheets against the run list and camera/EPICS.
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** Updated on RF times. There were a few issues with some runs, but overall most are finished.
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** Hodoscope calibrations look similar to before. There is still the issue of the double bands in the time walk. This is ok because of the wide windows we still have. (See "hodoscope calibration section":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks#Calibrations-Mid-to-Late-August-2020)
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** Updated the SHMS HGCher analysis. The calibrations are coming along, but a little more work needs to be finished up.
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Next meeting September 9 @ 5 EST
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h3. July 29, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1029/klt_7_29_20.html "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/106
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** Updates on scripts to set pedestal defaults and AdcTdc offsets after hcana change
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** Updated plan and schedule for the analysis going forward
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Next meeting August 26th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. July 8, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1023/SHMS%20Proton%20Absorption.ods "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1022/KaonLT_Meeting_Jul_8.pdf
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Next meeting July 29 @ 4:30 EST
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h3. June 24, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1014/Vijay_24_June_20.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1013/KaonLTMeeting_6_24_20.pdf
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Next meeting July 8th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. June 9, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1006/Vijay_9_June_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1007/KaonLT_Meeting_Jun_9.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1005/KaonLTMeeting_6_9_20.pdf
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Next meeting June 24th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. May 27, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1002/Vijay_26_May_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1003/KaonLT_Meeting_May_27%20%5BAutosaved%5D.pdf
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Next meeting June 9th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. May 13, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/993/KaonLT_Meeting_13_05_20.pdf - Python analysis scripts "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/998/KaonLTMeeting_5_13_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/997/KaonLT_Meeting_May_13.pdf "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/999/Vijay_13_May_20.pdf
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Next meeting May 27th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. April 29, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/984/KaonLTMeeting_4_29_20.pdf "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/985/KaonLT_Meeting_29_04_20.pdf - Python code planning "Mark's hcana tracking update":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/982/Updates-to-HCANA-tracking.pdf
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Next meeting May 13th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. April 15, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/977/KaonLTMeeting_4_15_20.pdf
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Next meeting April 29th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. April 1, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/949/KaonLT_Meeting_01_04_20.pdf - RF timing "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/948/KaonLTMeeting_4_1_20.pdf
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Next meeting April 15th @  4:30 EST
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h3. March 18, 2020
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Next meeting April 1st @  4:30 EST
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h3. March 11, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/940/KaonLT_Meeting_Mar_11.pdf "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/941/DRAFT1_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
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Next meeting March 18th @  4:30 EST
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h3. Feb 26, 2020
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* Peter's changes to hcana should be coming soon. Richard will check with Mark when he is down there for an update.
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* Richard should look at the luminosity scalar analysis before and after the BCM changes once he gets his script working again.
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**  He is checking with Mark about this while he is down in jlab. 
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Next meeting March 11th @  4:30 EST
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h3. Feb 10, 2020 
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Next meeting Feb 26th @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 22, 2020
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Next meeting Feb 10 @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 15,2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/936/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020.pdf
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Next meeting Jan 22 @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 8,2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/76
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*** Tighter cuts and cuts on timing, beta, etc. will be needed for cleaner electron cuts
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*** Hcal cut should be changed to cut around the mean normalized value instead of cutting above or below it only. This will assure electrons aren't lost.
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h2. 2019 Meetings
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h3. Dec 17,2019
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Reminder: Mark Jones' commissioning analysis meetings are bi-weekly and announced by Mark
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** Number of passes finished for HMS calorimeter
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*** Still wiggles in all passes
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** Finished his report on calibrations, "DC and Calorimeters":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/74
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** Put together a list of people's jobs from Regina over the next couple of months, "Regina Analysis Tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/75
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** Fixed one error issue with SHMS calorimeter calibration code (discussed Dec 10th meeting), but still have one error
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** PID efficiency script plots are complete, but still some questions he needs to work out before a final version
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*** Eventually need to include tracking into PID efficiencies
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** Pete brought up the question for a number of multi-hits we are getting
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Next meeting will be after the break; Wednesday, January 8th at 3 pm EST
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h3. Dec 10,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/73
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*** Changes such as new detector classes
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** Hopefully Wit will present these in the next commissioning meeting
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* Stephen improved wiggles but still prevalent
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** He also has been looking at SHMS calorimeter calibrations but has had issues running the scripts. Most likely a pathing issue.
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** The "tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks page has been updated with a section for efficiencies. 
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h3. Nov 26,2019
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** Vardan said calorimeter wiggles are an ongoing issue with no current solution
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** The calibrations are nearing completion with only the HG Cherenkov and SHMS calorimeter yet to be finished. There are also smaller issues with some DC and HMS calorimeter runs.
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*** Richard will pick up looking at the HGCer calibrations from Vijay's scripts. 
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*** Richard will also be looking at the SHMS calorimeter and with the suggestion of getting some negatively polarized SHMS runs from Hem.
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** The HMS Cherenkov is finished with the conclusion that the calibrations from the online runs are good
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** We can begin looking forward towards efficiencies. 
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*** Garth suggested that looking at PID may be an advantageous first steps. Precise definitions of these PIDs will need to be logged.
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*** Clear notes on efficiencies steps will be needed. They will need to be redefined multiple times in multiple ways. 
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** Has been looking at the calorimeter as well. 
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** He has seen the second band in the spectra for some runs, we suggested further looks into HMS hodoscope and subsequently reference times. A recalibration will need to be performed.  
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h3. Nov 19,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
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** Finished up TDC cut paper going through the procedure (found "here":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500)
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** Needed to add Carlos pre-trigger designs to an appendix for the paper which clarifies the introduction section
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** Issues with DC calibration for only a few runs during each run period
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** "wiggles" in HMS calorimeter calibrations for some runs
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*** few runs where HMS cal totally failed (which was dependent on initial parameters)
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*** Spring looked worse than the rest (surprisingly), but this may be because online calibration wasn't great
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h3. Nov 5,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
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** Reference times between Richard and Stephen are very similar and the GitHub is updated accordingly
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** Richard is going to add the trigger time cuts once the fall runs are finished (by end of week)
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** First pass of detector reference time parameter files finished
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* Peter's hcana code (Richard and Stephen)
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** Peter's code does not remove ghost bands (already known), but now Stephen is seeing a strang horizontal band for just SHMS hodoscope 2D plots
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*** Richard has emailed Peter about the issue with no response yet (follow-up soon)
495
** This means we still need the reference time amplitude cut with Peter's code but using just the amplitude cut with Mark's latest version of hcana should be sufficient for calibrations.
496
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* Calibrations were decided to be done once per shift
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* Next meeting schedule...
500 127 Richard Trotta
** Small meetings Nov 12 and Nov 19 (at 3pm EST) so Richard and Stephen can iron out the timing and calibrations
501
** November 26 (at 3pm EST) will be a larger meeting. 
502 68 Richard Trotta
*** This is the rough deadline we made for finishing up calibrations. 
503
*** This should be sufficient for all detectors (although hodoscope and HG which may persist). The ultimate goal is for all calibrations to be finished up before Winter break!!
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h3. Oct 22,2019
508 62 Richard Trotta
509 64 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
510 62 Richard Trotta
511 65 Richard Trotta
* SHMS Reference Time Amplitude Cuts(Stephen)
512
** Extra peaks in HG from cross-talk and "ghost-bands" due to ADC screw up
513
*** cuts applied on SHMS ADC ref time amplitude (greater than zero) done before any further event selection and histogram filling
514
** This is a temporary fix to "ghost-bands" and cross talk
515
*** Although for HG there is still a small peak. The hodoscope is fine.
516
** The time window is easier to set now.
517
** DC has been fine (since it uses TDC)
518
*** DC calibrations should be good to complete, other detectors need more fixes (i.e. the remaining "ghost-band")
519
** Hodoscope still bad but this might be because of that "ghost-band", needs to be further investigated
520
521 1 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana fixes for reference time (Richard)
522 67 Richard Trotta
** Peter implemented changes to hcana
523
** Two major issues...
524 1 Richard Trotta
## Amplitude goes to null and integral is low or negative which causes a rate-dependent efficiency. 
525 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter has used the average pulse value acquired over a large sample of runs for each detector. 
526 1 Richard Trotta
## Timing offset between EL-REAL and 3/4 is 130 ns which causes junk tracks at high SHMS rates (~6% of the time)
527 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter created a routine to find the best offset by means of matching TDC and ADC
528
** Richard has been checking for bugs in the code. 
529
*** It seems to be ready to implement, Richard emailed Peter for confirmation on the implementation in our group directory
530
531 1 Richard Trotta
* Calibration of HMS detectors when the timing is agreed upon by Stephen and Richard.
532 67 Richard Trotta
** Besides hodoscope which still has an issue with the script
533 65 Richard Trotta
** Stephen and Richard are having a meeting late next week to determine time window values
534 62 Richard Trotta
*** These will be relatively final, but on the wider side if adjustments need to be made in the future
535
536 1 Richard Trotta
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538 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 24,2019
539 61 Richard Trotta
540
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
541 1 Richard Trotta
542 61 Richard Trotta
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543 1 Richard Trotta
544 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 10,2019
545 59 Vijay Kumar
546
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/72 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
547 1 Richard Trotta
548
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549 55 Stephen Kay
550 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 26, 2019
551 55 Stephen Kay
552
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/70 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/71 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
553 1 Richard Trotta
554 54 Richard Trotta
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555
556 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 21, 2019
557 54 Richard Trotta
558 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 
559 54 Richard Trotta
560 42 Stephen Kay
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561
562 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 14, 2019
563 1 Richard Trotta
564 46 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/64 "Update-Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/65 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/814/Analy_update3.pdf
565 42 Stephen Kay
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567 35 Stephen Kay
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568 1 Richard Trotta
569 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 4, 2019
570 36 Vijay Kumar
571 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/56 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/57 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/58 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/59 "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/61
572 35 Stephen Kay
573 1 Richard Trotta
574 35 Stephen Kay
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575 1 Richard Trotta
576 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 21, 2019
577 1 Richard Trotta
578
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/52 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/? "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/53 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/54 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/55
579 35 Stephen Kay
580
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581 1 Richard Trotta
582 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 14, 2019
583 1 Richard Trotta
584 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/48 "Carlos' slides":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/49 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/50 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/51
585 1 Richard Trotta
586 35 Stephen Kay
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587 1 Richard Trotta
588 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 30, 2019
589 1 Richard Trotta
590
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/45 "Richard's slides in wiki":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_How-To "Brad Computing":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/46 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/47
591 35 Stephen Kay
592 1 Richard Trotta
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593
594
h3. February 4, 2019
595
596
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/43 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/44
597
598
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599 113 Richard Trotta
600 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2018 Meetings
601 141 Stephen Kay
602
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603 111 Richard Trotta
604
h3. August 21, 2018
605
606 1 Richard Trotta
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
607 35 Stephen Kay
608 1 Richard Trotta
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609 35 Stephen Kay
610 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 8, 2018
611 35 Stephen Kay
612
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
613 1 Richard Trotta
614
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615 35 Stephen Kay
616 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 3, 2018
617 1 Richard Trotta
618 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383
619
*Links to talks->*
620 1 Richard Trotta
621 35 Stephen Kay
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622 1 Richard Trotta
623 111 Richard Trotta
h3. July 11, 2018
624 1 Richard Trotta
625 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #384
626 1 Richard Trotta
627 35 Stephen Kay
*Action items:*
628 1 Richard Trotta
629 35 Stephen Kay
* Update run plan, e.g. add prescales (Garth)
630
* Check on details of: magnet cycling procedure, minimum angles, MCC fringe field steering, beam energy measurements, optics checks (Tanja)
631
* Identify additional run coordinators (Tanja)
632
* Encourage collaborators to take shifts, e.g. FIU (Pete)
633
* Draft email about shifts etc. to collaboration (Tanja)
634
* Develop diagnostic scripts and kaonLT specific (Richard, Ryan)
635
* Continue documentation development, e.g. checklist, shift taker instructions, HowTo or link to generic Hall C HowTo, task list, web page (Richard, Garth)
636 1 Richard Trotta
637 35 Stephen Kay
*Discussions:*
638
639
* SHMS Aerogel Cherenkov: tray has been changed to SP-11 on 10 July, nominal time for change is 8 hours, one tray can stay in the hall to minimize overhead
640
* HGC: waiting for re-installation
641
* Trigger checkout: main items to keep in mind: fADC thresholds, timing HMS/SHMS - leading arm, possible rate limitations
642 1 Richard Trotta
* Shifts
643
* Diagnostics scripts and documentation
644
* Personnel schedules
645
646
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647
648 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 28, 2018
649 1 Richard Trotta
650
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/34
651
652
*Action Items:*
653
654
* Develop and post shift schedule. Send out request. Find out who is KAONLT liaison (Tanja)
655
* Contact potential run coordinators. (Tanja)
656
* Aerogel tray exchange for start of experiment and coordination of future exchanges (Vladimir)
657
* Update runplan and prepare documents needed for shift crew, e.g. run sheets (Garth)
658
* Set up a web page to collect and link from Redmine - How-To documents, initial calibrations, etc. (Garth, Richard)
659
* Adapt luminosity scan script to calculate kaon yields by run number for use during experiment by shift crew - has to be simple to use. (Richard)
660
* Develop trigger/detector checkout plan (Tanja, initial draft)
661
** Are all experts available at run start, experts needed: coincidence timing , Harp Scans, BCM calibrations, ...
662
* Find out from JLab what the anticipated settings are for limit switches for both spectrometers and for separation angle in between them. Also find out what magnet cycling procedure should be used for L/T quality separation data (Tanja)
663
* Find out if all aerogel trays needed for experiment can be stored inside Hall C to avoid having to open truck ramp (Vladimir)
664
665
*Analysis Updates:*
666
667
* Ryan 
668
** resolving differences between his analysis and Richard's
669
670
* Richard
671
** Discussed with Mark Jones and is cross checking his January luminosity scan analysis against Mark's. Realized that BCM calibrations (gains, offsets etc) are different - currently working on fixing that, presents current results - low curent point is ~10% below unity, discussion that this seems to indicate that BCM offsets are the issue as low current points would be most sensitive, is planning to also double-check the BCM calibration procedure - had discussion with Dave Mack at JLab
672
** Presents a script developed for luminosity scans that determines yields for a run number input on command line. Discussion this could be good to adapt for kaon counting during experiment.
673
674
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675
676 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 31, 2018
677 1 Richard Trotta
678 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
679 1 Richard Trotta
680 35 Stephen Kay
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681 1 Richard Trotta
682 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 17, 2018 
683 1 Richard Trotta
684 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/29, "Ryan":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/DocDB/0009/000968/001/Presentation.pdf, "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
685 2 Richard Trotta
686 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity scans (Richard, Ryan)
687 111 Richard Trotta
** Carbon scan from April seems consistent with no boiling, LH3 and LD2 show deviation from unity, should check effect of EDTM events on efficiencies
688 35 Stephen Kay
** Carbon scans from January (low rates) have large deviations from unity, in particular behavior at higher currents (>40uA), e.g. cpu dead time, that is not yet understood
689
** discussion about pre-scale factors
690 1 Richard Trotta
691 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion about Richard's script extracting and printing information from report files and trees including histograms
692
** Add option for looking at yields with cuts on cointime, target window, and missing mass
693
** Add option to look at real peak vs. background level
694 1 Richard Trotta
695 35 Stephen Kay
* H(e,e'p) kinematics investigation for fall run (Samip)
696
** Optimal range is between electron angles of 17-20 degrees, time required ranges from ~1 hour at 17 degrees to ~3 hour at 20 degrees, other angles may be of interest for disentangling charge and current dependent effects
697 1 Richard Trotta
698 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items*
699
** Luminosity scans at low rates from January (Richard)
700
** Luminosity scans from April with corrected efficiencies, e.d. DT (Ryan)
701
** H(e,e'p) and H(e,e') kinematics for upcoming Kaon LT run (Samip)
702
** Kaon LT detailed run plan (Garth, Pete, Tanja)
703
** Preparations, e.g. report files, diagnostic histograms and real time monitoring, shift worker instructions, optimization of trees (all)
704 1 Richard Trotta
705
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706
707 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 10, 2018
708 35 Stephen Kay
709 2 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hem":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/24, "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/23, "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/26
710 35 Stephen Kay
711
* Luminosity Scans January 2018 (Richard)
712
** Tracking-based analysis for Runs 1415-1423, .. for now focus on HMS, typical HMS S1X rates are <
713
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (Cer, Cal), acceptance (delta)
714
** Efficiency calculation was investigated in detail and applied using scalers from trees
715
** Results for carbon (normalized to 30uA) show large variation - need to understand
716
** *Next steps:*
717
*** Double check calculation of computer lifetime, look for differences in TRIG and PRETRIG scalers
718
*** Check stability of pre-scale (Ryan saw changes within runs)
719
*** Check if detector calibrations for runs are implemented correctly
720
*** Analyze with Ryan's cuts
721 1 Richard Trotta
722 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity Scans April 2018 (Ryan)
723
** Confirms Richard's earlier finding that scaler-based analysis is not reliable and that it's best to analyze event-by-event
724
** Tracking-based analysis for runs 2073-2095
725
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (TOF, Cal, Chi2), acceptance (delta and angles), BCM4a
726
** Included most recent detector calibrations in replay of these runs
727
** Efficiencies from report file mainly, may need to update tracking efficiency implementation
728
** Found that calculations of computer deadtime requires different set of scalers for runs from January to those from April 2018
729
** Results show carbon yields consistent with unity within error (0.5% error bars), and boiling for hydrogen and deuterium
730
** *Next steps:*
731 5 Richard Trotta
*** Check tracking efficiency
732 35 Stephen Kay
733
* *Global comments on Luminosity Scans (so far)*
734 1 Richard Trotta
** April 2018 scans show hydrogen and deuterium target boiling on level of 3-4%, Carbon is consistent with no boiling, as expected - based on description, new targets are expected to have less boiling than those used previously, e.g. in FPI2. Double check this.
735 35 Stephen Kay
** Efficiencies in report files need to be updated, e.g. CPU deadtime (Richard)
736
** Check if BCM4a is the one closest to the target - get a map of the hall (Richard, Ryan)
737
** Uncertainties on current
738
** Detector calibrations
739 1 Richard Trotta
** HMS vs. SHMS
740 35 Stephen Kay
741
* eK+ coincidence time from SIDIS Spring 2018 run (Samip)
742
** Worked with Mark Jones on coincidence time calculation - now available in hcana (see Samip's 10 May 2018 email for more details)
743
** runs used in this analysis: 3423 with Q2=3.1 GeV2 and W=2.78 GeV
744
** Coincidence time spectrum shows peak separations >2 ns corresponding to different accelerator frequency
745
** Missing mass spectra: Kaon peak clearly visible, also see pions even after cuts
746
** Found that pions appear localized in phase space - seems to be due to end point in kinematic phase space
747 1 Richard Trotta
** *Next steps:*
748 2 Richard Trotta
*** Look for a run with kaon momentum closer to 3 GeV/c (aerogel threshold is ~3 GeV/c for kaons for n=1.015)
749 35 Stephen Kay
750
* Yield normalized ratios from SIDIS (Hem)
751
** Yield ratios of data to MC match well in shape, but normalization seems not quite right
752
** *Next steps:*
753 4 Richard Trotta
*** Check if efficiencies, currents, run time etc. are taken into account correctly
754
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756 35 Stephen Kay
757 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 26, 2018
758 4 Richard Trotta
759 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard,":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/18 "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/25
760 4 Richard Trotta
761 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (earlier scan) - Richard
762
** Shown is a scaler-based analysis using scalers from report file and from ROOT tree - the values are different, why that is has to be checked
763
** Notes on efficiencies in report file:
764
*** DT (EDTM) is not electronic deadtime. Instead use for now 50ns* trigger rate for HMS and 100ns* trigger rate for SHMS
765
*** Cherenkov efficiency seems low (check if that is due to PID, thresholds, pi/e, etc)
766
*** Tracking efficiency needs to be checked
767
*** 3/4 trigger efficiency seems ok
768
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (later scan) - Ryan
769
** Fewer carbon runs than earlier scan
770
** Shown is a tracking-based analysis using data from the ROOT trees
771 111 Richard Trotta
** First results for carbon, LH3, and LD2, but efficiencies need to be checked
772 35 Stephen Kay
* SIDIS analysis - Hem
773
** Shown is a data/MC comparison for different kinematic settings. Agreement in shape is very good. Normalization has yet to be applied.
774
** Discussion about agreement in z and apparent offset - relation of this offset with spectrometer offset
775
* Analysis of exclusive events in SIDIS - Samip
776
** Shown is a look at the first kaon events in exclusive limit of SIDIS data
777
** Ongoing work on implementing coincidence time into tree
778
* Discussion of run plan, and in particular possible low Q2/low energy
779
** Assume that kaon low Q2=0.4 already included - have kinematics with specified beam energies, if needed
780
** For pion form factor and LT, have two possible settings that can use the prescribed beam energies: Q2=1.45 and 0.35 GeV2 - prioritize towards the higher Q2 as not as sensitive to offsets
781
** Garth will put this together in a draft email
782
783 12 Richard Trotta
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784
785 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 29, 2018
786 12 Richard Trotta
787 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/16 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/27
788 13 Richard Trotta
789 35 Stephen Kay
* Details of adding points to fall run plan - will be ready sooner, likely in week of 4/1 (Garth, Samip, Tanja)
790
* Luminosity scans (Ryan, Andres, Richard, Pete)
791
* Macros, SIDIS analysis (Hem, Anashe)
792
* Elastic data (TBD)
793
794 14 Richard Trotta
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795 18 Richard Trotta
796 111 Richard Trotta
h3. February 22, 2018
797 18 Richard Trotta
798 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Andres":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/19
799 18 Richard Trotta
800 35 Stephen Kay
*  Discussion of Andres' slides on elastic W calculation in hcana - initial issue with negative W values seems to be due to outdated information in standard.kinematics file. Additional investigation ongoing.
801
* Brief description of Samip's work - working on coincidence timing decoding with JLab staff and re-optimization of kinematics
802
* Discussion of Richard's slides on run plan kinematics and preparations -
803
** everyone agrees that in general want to have as many L/T cross section separations as possible in a robust run plan balancing statistics vs. systematics
804
** before actual run may want to do a 3D optimization in all kinematic variables to get the best possible delta(epsilon) for the L/T separations
805
** for each setting will need 1-2 shifts for calibrations - need to negotiate with other experiments in run group
806
** kinematics plots W-Q2 show that still need to do some optimization
807
** run sheets: include raster size, update coincidence count labeling, and carbon target labeling
808
* Discussion of next meeting. Garth at JLab 8-16 March - might have meeting during that time.
809 26 Richard Trotta
810 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items:*
811
** Post slides/notes from this meeting and procedure to set up hcana in Redmine (Tanja)
812
** Update run sheet and kinematic optimization for W/Q2 (Garth)
813
** Circulate elastic calculations for kinematic settings (Samip)
814
** Continue investigation of elastic data and run plan kinematics (Andres/Richard)
815
** Test software installation instructions (Pete)
816
** Draft email to JLab management about need for small angle beam pipe - need to have HMS minimum angle of less than 13 degrees for kaon L/T separations (Tanja) 
817 32 Stephen Kay
818
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