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h1. *Kaon LT Meetings*
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Kaon LT collaboration analysis meetings. Please add your talk to the meeting ahead of time. Add the newest meeting to the top of the list!
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h2. 2022 Meetings
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h3. January 5, 2022
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** Stephen was updating GitHub but UTIL_BATCH has some permissions issues
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** Update to KLT task schedule
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** Meeting between Richard and Vijay to discuss task breakdown Friday, January 7th at 11 am EST
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** EDTM study 2 will done sometime this weekend
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* Vijay
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** Breakdown of HEEP single analysis for low Q2 data
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*** Shapes of SIMC and data are very off
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*** It seems to be a systematic issue on Vijay's part because the same issue is being seen in PLT data
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h2. 2021 Meetings
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h3. August 4, 2021
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** Update on the HEEP singles. The remainder of energy setting ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1% and < 0.5% uncertainty).
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** Issues with the COIN are seen but may be a replay issue.
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h3. July 21, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1250/KaonLTMeeting7_14_21.pdf
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** Update on the HEEP singles. 10.6 GeV ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1%) but proper error bars are needed.
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Next meeting August 4th @ 4:30 ED
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h3. May 12, 2021
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** The currents were adjusted from 1-10 uA with little effect on the EDMTLT but proper changes to the CPULT. The replay bcm cut script developed by Sanghwa was also analyzed to see if it may be causing the issue but it had the same effects. There was also a small error in the code found where T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTimeRaw was incorrectly written as T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTime.
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Next meeting May 26th @ 4:30 ED
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h3. April 28, 2021
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** Lumi table was created for 2 sets of runs. Odd behavior seen ~30-45 uA with EDTM where is drops. Playing with the current cuts is the next step.
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Next meeting May 12th @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. April 14, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_4_14_21.pdf
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** Updated Lumi carbon plots with uncertainties. PID and current cuts need to be played around with a bit to see if they improve things (as uncertainties don't explain any boiling-type behaviors). 
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** Some PionLT carbon runs were looked at but there are still some issues (either cut or pathing related).
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h3. March 31, 2021
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** Luminosity studies
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*** PionLT carbon runs
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**** Still having issues getting decent results. I think I am just missing a definition somewhere that I need to track down
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*** Uncertainties
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**** Easy to do, I just need to put it into my script
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** Explicit PS calculations
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*** I have gotten a rough script working for very simple runs (ie low rate, single spectrometer, calibration runs)
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*** I am trying to expand to lumi singles runs, things get a bit more complex so I am just working out the trigger correlations
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** Pass 2 runs
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*** DEF-files
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**** I checked out the DEF-files for our combination of the nested files
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**** There are a lot a files (~150!!!!) and may be hard to track so next week *we should make a flowchart together*
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**** Working on my list of branches for the next replay
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***** Mainly just working on my list of branches for the explicit PS calculations
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***** *Everyone should have a list of these branches by next mini-meeting (4/7/21)*
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** Updated DEF-File for the "full" replay
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*** Can't remove NData brances, Mark says they won't take up too many resources anyway
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*** Removed individual PMT info and raw info for many detectors, reduced file size by factor ~2
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** Updating DEF-files/scripts for calibrations as part of PionLT prep
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** Will focus on DEF-file/DEF-cut file updates over next week
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*** Will investigate HeeP replays over rest of this week.
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Next meeting April 14th @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 24, 2021
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* KaonLT Mini Meeting focusing on Pass2 preparation
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* "Task summary from Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Replay_2_Tasks
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Next meeting March 31st @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 17, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_17_21.pdf
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** I have re-run the carbon lumi runs with the changes to the replay events (i.e. All_events_NO_EDTM). The results look pretty good (within a few percent). There are still some trends I need to investigate for certain runs and I need to do the analysis for the pionLT carbon lumi data.
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* Mini meeting March 24th @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 3, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_3_21.pdf
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** I found an issue with the replay scripts used where the EDTM was not being properly registered. There is a discrepancy between two replay scripts depending on what the Decode_master is set to (i.e. ALL_events vs ALL_events_NO_EDTM). 
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** The explicit calculation of the prescale has hit a snag because of the differences between 6 GeV and 12 GeV. I contacted Mark Jones, who explained there are significant differences in the ADC gate between the two eras (which my own findings confirmed). I have contacted Brad for further input.
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h3. February 17, 2021
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** Tried to remove some cumbersome elements to the analysis scripts without success. A few runs were added to a well behaved set of lumi runs with good consistency.
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** Presented an update on the Hodoscope Calibrations: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1196/HodoscopeUpdate_2021Feb17.pdf
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Next meeting March 3rd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. February 3, 2021
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** A table with the aerogel efficiency for kaons is being created. It will be expanded to other particles and detectors.
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h3. January 20, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1172/KaonLTMeeting_1_20_21.pdf
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** All KaonLT carbon runs have been analyzed. There are still some issues that seem to be related to the pre-scale values. I may need to investigate the EDTM and/or the COIN events further to correct for these.
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Next meeting February 3rd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. January 6, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1153/KaonLTMeeting1_6_21.pdf
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** Analyzed most of the luminosity scans. There are a few issues I am investigating still which seem to be run related.
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Next meeting January 20th @ 4:30 EST
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h2. 2020 Meetings
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h3. December 2, 2020
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** Richard included the EDTM to Lumi analysis and found some old analysis of scalers by Mark Jones that he will compare. Ali and Richard met last week and will begin combining Ali's tracking studies with Richard's lumi analysis.
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h3. November 18, 2020
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* "Carlos":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1103/LiveTime_Study_cyero.pdf
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** He is investigating some of the EDTM rate dependence and sees a discrepancy between the total EDTM LT and CPU LT with a sudden dip at 20-30 kHz. More luminosity runs will need to be studied for a full conclusion.
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1101/KaonLTMeeting11_18_20.pdf
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** Scaler analysis matches Carlos' code now. Overall significant improvements were made through some cut adjustments and incorrect variable definitions.
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** Updated the hallc_replay_lt with parameter files for all coin peaks.
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Next meeting December 2nd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. November 4, 2020
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1092/KaonLTMeeting11_4_20.pdf
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** Scaler analysis is getting closer to an answer. An in-depth comparison of Carlos and Richard's analysis shows inconsistencies between the two.
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h3. October 28, 2020
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** Went over some of his tracking procedures for the report file implementation
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1091/KaonLTMeeting10_28_20.pdf
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** Luminosity analysis continues. There are still some issues but things have improved a bit.
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* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1090/KaonLT_Meeting_28_10_20.pdf
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** Discussion of CT peak analysis, progress and outline of what's left to do with this
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* Vijay
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** Dry run for Mark's hallc meeting tomorrow (10/29)
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Next meeting November 4th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. October 14, 2020
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* Ali
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** Working through the REPORT_FILES template to get everything working and outputting proper information.
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1085/KaonLTMeeting_10_14_20.pdf
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** Updates on lumi scans. There are many issues from Scalers to Tracking that need to be resolved.
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** He has included a demo for using the python analysis script in the README.
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Next meeting October 28th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. September 23, 2020
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** A quick lumi analysis after the Pass1 runs. The results were compared to previously analyzed runs (5154-5158). There was some change but nothing huge. Some other runs with the same energy settings were analyzed as well. 
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** Showed some slides from u-channel meeting of omega and proton MM  plots. Then discussed some ideas for dealing with the hole in the HGCer.
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** Data fitting algorithm based on E.H. Bellamy paper. Extracts PMT spectra from ROOT file and makes a 1D projection histogram.
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Next meeting October 14th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. September 9, 2020
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** Still working on run list, GUI checks
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* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/567
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** New slim replay scripts and full replay scripts updated
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** Him and Stephen found an issue (already aware of) with zeros in the parameter files using Mark's hcana changes
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** Need to be vigilant of crashed replays because this is probably the issue
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** Nearly finished with HGcer calibrations
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Next meeting September 23rd @ 4:30 EST
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h3. August 26, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/483 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/479
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** New tasks were created based on the previous discussions on objectives going forward. In the process of checking run sheets against the run list and camera/EPICS.
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** Updated on RF times. There were a few issues with some runs, but overall most are finished.
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** Hodoscope calibrations look similar to before. There is still the issue of the double bands in the time walk. This is ok because of the wide windows we still have. (See "hodoscope calibration section":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks#Calibrations-Mid-to-Late-August-2020)
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** Updated the SHMS HGCher analysis. The calibrations are coming along, but a little more work needs to be finished up.
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Next meeting September 9 @ 5 EST
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h3. July 29, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1029/klt_7_29_20.html "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/106
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** Updates on scripts to set pedestal defaults and AdcTdc offsets after hcana change
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** Updated plan and schedule for the analysis going forward
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Next meeting August 26th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. July 8, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1023/SHMS%20Proton%20Absorption.ods "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1022/KaonLT_Meeting_Jul_8.pdf
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Next meeting July 29 @ 4:30 EST
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h3. June 24, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1014/Vijay_24_June_20.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1013/KaonLTMeeting_6_24_20.pdf
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Next meeting July 8th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. June 9, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1006/Vijay_9_June_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1007/KaonLT_Meeting_Jun_9.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1005/KaonLTMeeting_6_9_20.pdf
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Next meeting June 24th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. May 27, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1002/Vijay_26_May_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1003/KaonLT_Meeting_May_27%20%5BAutosaved%5D.pdf
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Next meeting June 9th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. May 13, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/993/KaonLT_Meeting_13_05_20.pdf - Python analysis scripts "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/998/KaonLTMeeting_5_13_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/997/KaonLT_Meeting_May_13.pdf "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/999/Vijay_13_May_20.pdf
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Next meeting May 27th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. April 29, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/984/KaonLTMeeting_4_29_20.pdf "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/985/KaonLT_Meeting_29_04_20.pdf - Python code planning "Mark's hcana tracking update":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/982/Updates-to-HCANA-tracking.pdf
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Next meeting May 13th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. April 15, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/977/KaonLTMeeting_4_15_20.pdf
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Next meeting April 29th @ 4:30 EST
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h3. April 1, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/949/KaonLT_Meeting_01_04_20.pdf - RF timing "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/948/KaonLTMeeting_4_1_20.pdf
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Next meeting April 15th @  4:30 EST
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h3. March 18, 2020
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Next meeting April 1st @  4:30 EST
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h3. March 11, 2020
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*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/940/KaonLT_Meeting_Mar_11.pdf "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/941/DRAFT1_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
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Next meeting March 18th @  4:30 EST
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h3. Feb 26, 2020
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* Richard should look at the luminosity scalar analysis before and after the BCM changes once he gets his script working again.
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**  He is checking with Mark about this while he is down in jlab. 
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Next meeting March 11th @  4:30 EST
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h3. Feb 10, 2020 
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Next meeting Feb 26th @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 22, 2020
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Next meeting Feb 10 @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 15,2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/936/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020.pdf
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Next meeting Jan 22 @ 11 am EST
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h3. Jan 8,2020
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/76
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*** Tighter cuts and cuts on timing, beta, etc. will be needed for cleaner electron cuts
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*** Hcal cut should be changed to cut around the mean normalized value instead of cutting above or below it only. This will assure electrons aren't lost.
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h2. 2019 Meetings
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h3. Dec 17,2019
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Reminder: Mark Jones' commissioning analysis meetings are bi-weekly and announced by Mark
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** Number of passes finished for HMS calorimeter
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*** Still wiggles in all passes
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** Finished his report on calibrations, "DC and Calorimeters":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/74
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** Put together a list of people's jobs from Regina over the next couple of months, "Regina Analysis Tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/75
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** Fixed one error issue with SHMS calorimeter calibration code (discussed Dec 10th meeting), but still have one error
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** PID efficiency script plots are complete, but still some questions he needs to work out before a final version
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*** Eventually need to include tracking into PID efficiencies
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** Pete brought up the question for a number of multi-hits we are getting
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Next meeting will be after the break; Wednesday, January 8th at 3 pm EST
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h3. Dec 10,2019
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*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/73
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** Wit had lots of hcana changes but they seem to be critical to our work 
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*** Changes such as new detector classes
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** Hopefully Wit will present these in the next commissioning meeting
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* Stephen improved wiggles but still prevalent
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** He also has been looking at SHMS calorimeter calibrations but has had issues running the scripts. Most likely a pathing issue.
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** The "tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks page has been updated with a section for efficiencies. 
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* Next meeting will be December 17th at 3 pm EST.
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h3. Nov 26,2019
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** Vardan said calorimeter wiggles are an ongoing issue with no current solution
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** The calibrations are nearing completion with only the HG Cherenkov and SHMS calorimeter yet to be finished. There are also smaller issues with some DC and HMS calorimeter runs.
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*** Richard will pick up looking at the HGCer calibrations from Vijay's scripts. 
500
*** Richard will also be looking at the SHMS calorimeter and with the suggestion of getting some negatively polarized SHMS runs from Hem.
501
** The HMS Cherenkov is finished with the conclusion that the calibrations from the online runs are good
502
** We can begin looking forward towards efficiencies. 
503
*** Garth suggested that looking at PID may be an advantageous first steps. Precise definitions of these PIDs will need to be logged.
504
*** Clear notes on efficiencies steps will be needed. They will need to be redefined multiple times in multiple ways. 
505
506
* Hem
507
** Has been looking at the calorimeter as well. 
508 70 Richard Trotta
** He has seen the second band in the spectra for some runs, we suggested further looks into HMS hodoscope and subsequently reference times. A recalibration will need to be performed.  
509
510
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511
512 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 19,2019
513 1 Richard Trotta
514 70 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
515
516
* Richard
517
** Finished up TDC cut paper going through the procedure (found "here":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500)
518
** Needed to add Carlos pre-trigger designs to an appendix for the paper which clarifies the introduction section
519
520
* Stephen
521
** Issues with DC calibration for only a few runs during each run period
522
** "wiggles" in HMS calorimeter calibrations for some runs
523
*** few runs where HMS cal totally failed (which was dependent on initial parameters)
524
*** Spring looked worse than the rest (surprisingly), but this may be because online calibration wasn't great
525
526 2 Richard Trotta
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527 68 Richard Trotta
528 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 5,2019
529 68 Richard Trotta
530
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
531
532
* Timing update (Stephen)
533
** Reference times between Richard and Stephen are very similar and the GitHub is updated accordingly
534
** Richard is going to add the trigger time cuts once the fall runs are finished (by end of week)
535
** First pass of detector reference time parameter files finished
536 1 Richard Trotta
537 68 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana code (Richard and Stephen)
538
** Peter's code does not remove ghost bands (already known), but now Stephen is seeing a strang horizontal band for just SHMS hodoscope 2D plots
539
*** Richard has emailed Peter about the issue with no response yet (follow-up soon)
540
** This means we still need the reference time amplitude cut with Peter's code but using just the amplitude cut with Mark's latest version of hcana should be sufficient for calibrations.
541
542
* Calibrations were decided to be done once per shift
543
544
* Next meeting schedule...
545 127 Richard Trotta
** Small meetings Nov 12 and Nov 19 (at 3pm EST) so Richard and Stephen can iron out the timing and calibrations
546
** November 26 (at 3pm EST) will be a larger meeting. 
547 68 Richard Trotta
*** This is the rough deadline we made for finishing up calibrations. 
548
*** This should be sufficient for all detectors (although hodoscope and HG which may persist). The ultimate goal is for all calibrations to be finished up before Winter break!!
549
550
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551
552 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Oct 22,2019
553 62 Richard Trotta
554 64 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
555 62 Richard Trotta
556 65 Richard Trotta
* SHMS Reference Time Amplitude Cuts(Stephen)
557
** Extra peaks in HG from cross-talk and "ghost-bands" due to ADC screw up
558
*** cuts applied on SHMS ADC ref time amplitude (greater than zero) done before any further event selection and histogram filling
559
** This is a temporary fix to "ghost-bands" and cross talk
560
*** Although for HG there is still a small peak. The hodoscope is fine.
561
** The time window is easier to set now.
562
** DC has been fine (since it uses TDC)
563
*** DC calibrations should be good to complete, other detectors need more fixes (i.e. the remaining "ghost-band")
564
** Hodoscope still bad but this might be because of that "ghost-band", needs to be further investigated
565
566 1 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana fixes for reference time (Richard)
567 67 Richard Trotta
** Peter implemented changes to hcana
568
** Two major issues...
569 1 Richard Trotta
## Amplitude goes to null and integral is low or negative which causes a rate-dependent efficiency. 
570 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter has used the average pulse value acquired over a large sample of runs for each detector. 
571 1 Richard Trotta
## Timing offset between EL-REAL and 3/4 is 130 ns which causes junk tracks at high SHMS rates (~6% of the time)
572 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter created a routine to find the best offset by means of matching TDC and ADC
573
** Richard has been checking for bugs in the code. 
574
*** It seems to be ready to implement, Richard emailed Peter for confirmation on the implementation in our group directory
575
576 1 Richard Trotta
* Calibration of HMS detectors when the timing is agreed upon by Stephen and Richard.
577 67 Richard Trotta
** Besides hodoscope which still has an issue with the script
578 65 Richard Trotta
** Stephen and Richard are having a meeting late next week to determine time window values
579 62 Richard Trotta
*** These will be relatively final, but on the wider side if adjustments need to be made in the future
580
581 1 Richard Trotta
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582 61 Richard Trotta
583 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 24,2019
584 61 Richard Trotta
585
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
586 1 Richard Trotta
587 61 Richard Trotta
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588 1 Richard Trotta
589 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 10,2019
590 59 Vijay Kumar
591
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/72 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
592 1 Richard Trotta
593
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594 55 Stephen Kay
595 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 26, 2019
596 55 Stephen Kay
597
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/70 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/71 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
598 1 Richard Trotta
599 54 Richard Trotta
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600
601 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 21, 2019
602 54 Richard Trotta
603 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 
604 54 Richard Trotta
605 42 Stephen Kay
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606
607 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 14, 2019
608 1 Richard Trotta
609 46 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/64 "Update-Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/65 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/814/Analy_update3.pdf
610 42 Stephen Kay
611
612 35 Stephen Kay
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613 1 Richard Trotta
614 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 4, 2019
615 36 Vijay Kumar
616 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/56 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/57 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/58 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/59 "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/61
617 35 Stephen Kay
618 1 Richard Trotta
619 35 Stephen Kay
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620 1 Richard Trotta
621 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 21, 2019
622 1 Richard Trotta
623
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/52 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/? "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/53 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/54 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/55
624 35 Stephen Kay
625
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626 1 Richard Trotta
627 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 14, 2019
628 1 Richard Trotta
629 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/48 "Carlos' slides":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/49 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/50 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/51
630 1 Richard Trotta
631 35 Stephen Kay
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632 1 Richard Trotta
633 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 30, 2019
634 1 Richard Trotta
635
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/45 "Richard's slides in wiki":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_How-To "Brad Computing":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/46 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/47
636 35 Stephen Kay
637 1 Richard Trotta
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638
639
h3. February 4, 2019
640
641
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/43 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/44
642
643
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644 113 Richard Trotta
645 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2018 Meetings
646 141 Stephen Kay
647
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648 111 Richard Trotta
649
h3. August 21, 2018
650
651 1 Richard Trotta
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
652 35 Stephen Kay
653 1 Richard Trotta
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654 35 Stephen Kay
655 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 8, 2018
656 35 Stephen Kay
657
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
658 1 Richard Trotta
659
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660 35 Stephen Kay
661 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 3, 2018
662 1 Richard Trotta
663 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383
664
*Links to talks->*
665 1 Richard Trotta
666 35 Stephen Kay
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667 1 Richard Trotta
668 111 Richard Trotta
h3. July 11, 2018
669 1 Richard Trotta
670 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #384
671 1 Richard Trotta
672 35 Stephen Kay
*Action items:*
673 1 Richard Trotta
674 35 Stephen Kay
* Update run plan, e.g. add prescales (Garth)
675
* Check on details of: magnet cycling procedure, minimum angles, MCC fringe field steering, beam energy measurements, optics checks (Tanja)
676
* Identify additional run coordinators (Tanja)
677
* Encourage collaborators to take shifts, e.g. FIU (Pete)
678
* Draft email about shifts etc. to collaboration (Tanja)
679
* Develop diagnostic scripts and kaonLT specific (Richard, Ryan)
680
* Continue documentation development, e.g. checklist, shift taker instructions, HowTo or link to generic Hall C HowTo, task list, web page (Richard, Garth)
681 1 Richard Trotta
682 35 Stephen Kay
*Discussions:*
683
684
* SHMS Aerogel Cherenkov: tray has been changed to SP-11 on 10 July, nominal time for change is 8 hours, one tray can stay in the hall to minimize overhead
685
* HGC: waiting for re-installation
686
* Trigger checkout: main items to keep in mind: fADC thresholds, timing HMS/SHMS - leading arm, possible rate limitations
687 1 Richard Trotta
* Shifts
688
* Diagnostics scripts and documentation
689
* Personnel schedules
690
691
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692
693 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 28, 2018
694 1 Richard Trotta
695
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/34
696
697
*Action Items:*
698
699
* Develop and post shift schedule. Send out request. Find out who is KAONLT liaison (Tanja)
700
* Contact potential run coordinators. (Tanja)
701
* Aerogel tray exchange for start of experiment and coordination of future exchanges (Vladimir)
702
* Update runplan and prepare documents needed for shift crew, e.g. run sheets (Garth)
703
* Set up a web page to collect and link from Redmine - How-To documents, initial calibrations, etc. (Garth, Richard)
704
* Adapt luminosity scan script to calculate kaon yields by run number for use during experiment by shift crew - has to be simple to use. (Richard)
705
* Develop trigger/detector checkout plan (Tanja, initial draft)
706
** Are all experts available at run start, experts needed: coincidence timing , Harp Scans, BCM calibrations, ...
707
* Find out from JLab what the anticipated settings are for limit switches for both spectrometers and for separation angle in between them. Also find out what magnet cycling procedure should be used for L/T quality separation data (Tanja)
708
* Find out if all aerogel trays needed for experiment can be stored inside Hall C to avoid having to open truck ramp (Vladimir)
709
710
*Analysis Updates:*
711
712
* Ryan 
713
** resolving differences between his analysis and Richard's
714
715
* Richard
716
** Discussed with Mark Jones and is cross checking his January luminosity scan analysis against Mark's. Realized that BCM calibrations (gains, offsets etc) are different - currently working on fixing that, presents current results - low curent point is ~10% below unity, discussion that this seems to indicate that BCM offsets are the issue as low current points would be most sensitive, is planning to also double-check the BCM calibration procedure - had discussion with Dave Mack at JLab
717
** Presents a script developed for luminosity scans that determines yields for a run number input on command line. Discussion this could be good to adapt for kaon counting during experiment.
718
719
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720
721 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 31, 2018
722 1 Richard Trotta
723 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
724 1 Richard Trotta
725 35 Stephen Kay
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726 1 Richard Trotta
727 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 17, 2018 
728 1 Richard Trotta
729 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/29, "Ryan":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/DocDB/0009/000968/001/Presentation.pdf, "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
730 2 Richard Trotta
731 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity scans (Richard, Ryan)
732 111 Richard Trotta
** Carbon scan from April seems consistent with no boiling, LH3 and LD2 show deviation from unity, should check effect of EDTM events on efficiencies
733 35 Stephen Kay
** Carbon scans from January (low rates) have large deviations from unity, in particular behavior at higher currents (>40uA), e.g. cpu dead time, that is not yet understood
734
** discussion about pre-scale factors
735 1 Richard Trotta
736 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion about Richard's script extracting and printing information from report files and trees including histograms
737
** Add option for looking at yields with cuts on cointime, target window, and missing mass
738
** Add option to look at real peak vs. background level
739 1 Richard Trotta
740 35 Stephen Kay
* H(e,e'p) kinematics investigation for fall run (Samip)
741
** Optimal range is between electron angles of 17-20 degrees, time required ranges from ~1 hour at 17 degrees to ~3 hour at 20 degrees, other angles may be of interest for disentangling charge and current dependent effects
742 1 Richard Trotta
743 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items*
744
** Luminosity scans at low rates from January (Richard)
745
** Luminosity scans from April with corrected efficiencies, e.d. DT (Ryan)
746
** H(e,e'p) and H(e,e') kinematics for upcoming Kaon LT run (Samip)
747
** Kaon LT detailed run plan (Garth, Pete, Tanja)
748
** Preparations, e.g. report files, diagnostic histograms and real time monitoring, shift worker instructions, optimization of trees (all)
749 1 Richard Trotta
750
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751
752 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 10, 2018
753 35 Stephen Kay
754 2 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hem":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/24, "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/23, "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/26
755 35 Stephen Kay
756
* Luminosity Scans January 2018 (Richard)
757
** Tracking-based analysis for Runs 1415-1423, .. for now focus on HMS, typical HMS S1X rates are <
758
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (Cer, Cal), acceptance (delta)
759
** Efficiency calculation was investigated in detail and applied using scalers from trees
760
** Results for carbon (normalized to 30uA) show large variation - need to understand
761
** *Next steps:*
762
*** Double check calculation of computer lifetime, look for differences in TRIG and PRETRIG scalers
763
*** Check stability of pre-scale (Ryan saw changes within runs)
764
*** Check if detector calibrations for runs are implemented correctly
765
*** Analyze with Ryan's cuts
766 1 Richard Trotta
767 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity Scans April 2018 (Ryan)
768
** Confirms Richard's earlier finding that scaler-based analysis is not reliable and that it's best to analyze event-by-event
769
** Tracking-based analysis for runs 2073-2095
770
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (TOF, Cal, Chi2), acceptance (delta and angles), BCM4a
771
** Included most recent detector calibrations in replay of these runs
772
** Efficiencies from report file mainly, may need to update tracking efficiency implementation
773
** Found that calculations of computer deadtime requires different set of scalers for runs from January to those from April 2018
774
** Results show carbon yields consistent with unity within error (0.5% error bars), and boiling for hydrogen and deuterium
775
** *Next steps:*
776 5 Richard Trotta
*** Check tracking efficiency
777 35 Stephen Kay
778
* *Global comments on Luminosity Scans (so far)*
779 1 Richard Trotta
** April 2018 scans show hydrogen and deuterium target boiling on level of 3-4%, Carbon is consistent with no boiling, as expected - based on description, new targets are expected to have less boiling than those used previously, e.g. in FPI2. Double check this.
780 35 Stephen Kay
** Efficiencies in report files need to be updated, e.g. CPU deadtime (Richard)
781
** Check if BCM4a is the one closest to the target - get a map of the hall (Richard, Ryan)
782
** Uncertainties on current
783
** Detector calibrations
784 1 Richard Trotta
** HMS vs. SHMS
785 35 Stephen Kay
786
* eK+ coincidence time from SIDIS Spring 2018 run (Samip)
787
** Worked with Mark Jones on coincidence time calculation - now available in hcana (see Samip's 10 May 2018 email for more details)
788
** runs used in this analysis: 3423 with Q2=3.1 GeV2 and W=2.78 GeV
789
** Coincidence time spectrum shows peak separations >2 ns corresponding to different accelerator frequency
790
** Missing mass spectra: Kaon peak clearly visible, also see pions even after cuts
791
** Found that pions appear localized in phase space - seems to be due to end point in kinematic phase space
792 1 Richard Trotta
** *Next steps:*
793 2 Richard Trotta
*** Look for a run with kaon momentum closer to 3 GeV/c (aerogel threshold is ~3 GeV/c for kaons for n=1.015)
794 35 Stephen Kay
795
* Yield normalized ratios from SIDIS (Hem)
796
** Yield ratios of data to MC match well in shape, but normalization seems not quite right
797
** *Next steps:*
798 4 Richard Trotta
*** Check if efficiencies, currents, run time etc. are taken into account correctly
799
800
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801 35 Stephen Kay
802 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 26, 2018
803 4 Richard Trotta
804 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard,":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/18 "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/25
805 4 Richard Trotta
806 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (earlier scan) - Richard
807
** Shown is a scaler-based analysis using scalers from report file and from ROOT tree - the values are different, why that is has to be checked
808
** Notes on efficiencies in report file:
809
*** DT (EDTM) is not electronic deadtime. Instead use for now 50ns* trigger rate for HMS and 100ns* trigger rate for SHMS
810
*** Cherenkov efficiency seems low (check if that is due to PID, thresholds, pi/e, etc)
811
*** Tracking efficiency needs to be checked
812
*** 3/4 trigger efficiency seems ok
813
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (later scan) - Ryan
814
** Fewer carbon runs than earlier scan
815
** Shown is a tracking-based analysis using data from the ROOT trees
816 111 Richard Trotta
** First results for carbon, LH3, and LD2, but efficiencies need to be checked
817 35 Stephen Kay
* SIDIS analysis - Hem
818
** Shown is a data/MC comparison for different kinematic settings. Agreement in shape is very good. Normalization has yet to be applied.
819
** Discussion about agreement in z and apparent offset - relation of this offset with spectrometer offset
820
* Analysis of exclusive events in SIDIS - Samip
821
** Shown is a look at the first kaon events in exclusive limit of SIDIS data
822
** Ongoing work on implementing coincidence time into tree
823
* Discussion of run plan, and in particular possible low Q2/low energy
824
** Assume that kaon low Q2=0.4 already included - have kinematics with specified beam energies, if needed
825
** For pion form factor and LT, have two possible settings that can use the prescribed beam energies: Q2=1.45 and 0.35 GeV2 - prioritize towards the higher Q2 as not as sensitive to offsets
826
** Garth will put this together in a draft email
827
828 12 Richard Trotta
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829
830 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 29, 2018
831 12 Richard Trotta
832 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/16 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/27
833 13 Richard Trotta
834 35 Stephen Kay
* Details of adding points to fall run plan - will be ready sooner, likely in week of 4/1 (Garth, Samip, Tanja)
835
* Luminosity scans (Ryan, Andres, Richard, Pete)
836
* Macros, SIDIS analysis (Hem, Anashe)
837
* Elastic data (TBD)
838
839 14 Richard Trotta
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840 18 Richard Trotta
841 111 Richard Trotta
h3. February 22, 2018
842 18 Richard Trotta
843 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Andres":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/19
844 18 Richard Trotta
845 35 Stephen Kay
*  Discussion of Andres' slides on elastic W calculation in hcana - initial issue with negative W values seems to be due to outdated information in standard.kinematics file. Additional investigation ongoing.
846
* Brief description of Samip's work - working on coincidence timing decoding with JLab staff and re-optimization of kinematics
847
* Discussion of Richard's slides on run plan kinematics and preparations -
848
** everyone agrees that in general want to have as many L/T cross section separations as possible in a robust run plan balancing statistics vs. systematics
849
** before actual run may want to do a 3D optimization in all kinematic variables to get the best possible delta(epsilon) for the L/T separations
850
** for each setting will need 1-2 shifts for calibrations - need to negotiate with other experiments in run group
851
** kinematics plots W-Q2 show that still need to do some optimization
852
** run sheets: include raster size, update coincidence count labeling, and carbon target labeling
853
* Discussion of next meeting. Garth at JLab 8-16 March - might have meeting during that time.
854 26 Richard Trotta
855 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items:*
856
** Post slides/notes from this meeting and procedure to set up hcana in Redmine (Tanja)
857
** Update run sheet and kinematic optimization for W/Q2 (Garth)
858
** Circulate elastic calculations for kinematic settings (Samip)
859
** Continue investigation of elastic data and run plan kinematics (Andres/Richard)
860
** Test software installation instructions (Pete)
861
** Draft email to JLab management about need for small angle beam pipe - need to have HMS minimum angle of less than 13 degrees for kaon L/T separations (Tanja) 
862 32 Stephen Kay
863
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