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h1. *KaonLT/PionLT Meetings*
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KaonLT/PionLT collaboration analysis meetings. Please add your talk to the meeting ahead of time. Add the newest meeting to the top of the list!
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h2. 2022 Meetings
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h3. Sept 28, 2022
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h3. Sept 21, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22sep21.txt
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* Richard
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** attachment:Yield_6p2cl1.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl2.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl1.pdf
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** Lumi SHMS tracking is still showing the trend from 9/8. It was found that the lumi replay script is not updated with many of Ali and Richard's most recent changes. These changes are being applied and a set of new replays will be done.
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** Bill's cross-section code is broken into two major parts. The root analysis part, which takes all the yields, uncertainties, etc., is nearly complete with the connecting ltsep framework script finishing up. The second part, where many of the final plots and cross-sections are done, is a hard-coded mess. Richard is in the process of making this more dynamic. This aspect will take more time but the root analysis part is the bulk of the analysis anyways.
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** attachment:Ali_Sep21_Analysis.pdf
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** Heep Coin analysis for high Q2 KaonLT data (6.2, 8.2, 10.6 GeV beam energy) has now all the efficiencies/live times applied. The results for all 3 beam energies are looking very good. Data/SIMC ratios are agreeing very well (< 3%) and the shapes are matching up nicely. Next step is to finalize offsets for both low and high Q2 KaonLT data. Also proton absorption correction and target boiling needs to be applied.
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h3. Sept 8, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22sep08.txt
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* Ali
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** attachment:Sep8_Analysis.pdf
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** Heep Coin Analysis update. Fixed the issue with emiss and pmiss. Includes number of debug tests.
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** attachment:FullAnalysis_4p9-2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_8p2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_6p2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_3p8-1.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_10p6-1.pdf
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** Full analysis files are the latest data/simc comparison for different beam energies (No offsets applied yet) 
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting9_8_22.pdf
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** attachment:Yield_6p2_l1_all.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6_l1_all.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6_l2_all.pdf
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** Improved total uncertainties
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** In-depth with tracking cut analysis underway
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** Poor TLT consistent with poor CPULTs
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h3. Aug 31, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug31.txt
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting8_31_22.pdf
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** Improvements to luminosity analysis. Things are getting within a few percent. There are still some obvious issues with dependency leaking into the cuts, especially for tracking which is being investigated further.
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** Uncertainties for the luminosities and heep are next up.
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h3. Aug 26, 2022
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* Meeting on L/T-separation procedure
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** Garth's slides attachment:LT_sep_iterations.pdf
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** Bill's tutorial (Nov 2018) attachment:Kaon_LT_tutorial_18nov28.pdf
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** Stephen's notes attachment:LTsep_mtg_22aug26.txt
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h3. Aug 17, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug17.txt
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* Vijay
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** The summary of the Heepcheck study is attached here. attachment:Vijay_Aug17_2022.pdf 
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** 3.6 and 3.9 GeV data do NOT have the angle offsets. This has been established in the study.
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** I've plotted the offsets vs SHMS central momentum. Plots are attached in the attached pdf file.
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** The 10.6 GeV heep analysis is going well but the broad momentum distributions are making offsets difficult at times.
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** I have decided to give a second pair of eyes to Ali's hcana vs simc calculation investigation. It is concluded that the broad peaks of the hcana are likely caused by the secondary particle calculation which is gathered from the spectrometer track info. 
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** Corrections to the simc pmiss components have been added to the fortran code which corrects for a minus sign that is in hcana but missing from simc.
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** attachment:FullAnalysis_Offset_10p6.pdf
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** attachment:HcanavSimc_scatter_calc.pdf
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h3. Aug 4, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug04.txt
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** The offset HeepCheck study at 3.9, 4.9 (KaonLT), 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 (PionLT) GeV has been completed. attachment:Vijay_HeepCheckStudy.pdf  
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting_8_4_22.pdf
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** HeeP coin for 10p6 setting is looking pretty good. I still need to make some minor adjustments.
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** TLT for Lumi is looking much better. The yields also are looking better but cut adjustments need to be made.
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** HeeP singles have some odd issues that need to be resolved before offset analysis can begin.
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** Hodoscope calibrations are all done except 6p2.
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h3. July 14, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22jul14.txt
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_14_22.pdf
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** The W peaks for SIMC and data are very far offset from one another. This is being investigated.
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* Vijay
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** Heep Data MC comparo w/o offsets attachment:Heep_coin_no_offsets_vijay_22jul08.pdf
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h3. June 28, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22jun28.txt
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** Aerogel XY plots vs NPE to check out the tray location and efficiencies.
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** Hodoscope and calorimeter scripts working. Hodoscope calibration looks good for 10p6 but needs improvement for other beam energies.
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** HGCer efficiency and plots added to efficiency script. Need to discuss with Vijay on specifics of cuts and efficiencies.
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** Started looking in detail at Bill's code. Some scripts and links are missing/broken.
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** EDTM Study Report completed, with newer versions of the TLT equations attachment:EDTM_Study_Report.pdf
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** Graphical Guide for Event Types created to accompany the report, illustrating prescaling with EDTM attachment:Graphical_Guide_Evt_Type.pdf
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** Plan to update report file template with new equations and errors soon
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h3. June 14, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:efficiencies_22jun13.txt
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** Fixed issues with simc script and 10p6 Heepcoin data. Issue with data was an offset of 40ns that was corrected halfway through runs.
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** Aerogel XY plots vs NPE to check out the tray location and efficiencies.
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** Efficiency plots for all production runs.
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_14_22.pdf
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h3. May 31, 2022
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* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may31.txt attachment:efficiencies_22jun02.txt
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** The updated Heep coin study (Heepcheck program) at 3.9 GeV KaonLT data is attached here attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting_May31_2022.pdf .
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** First look at the HEEP COIN Data/SIMC comparison for the 8.2 GeV Kaon-LT data attachment:KaonLT_May31.pdf
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* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may17.txt attachment:efficiencies_22may25.txt
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** Updated heep coin scripts for the farm. Ali is testing them and should be able to get plots soon.
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** There was a small typo in the simc input file that dramatically changed the shape of the plots. attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_17_22.pdf
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** Updated version of efficiency columns for the script that will grab efficiencies and various other values. attachment:efficiency_output_list.docx
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** The updated heep coin study (some spectrometers offsets changed) at 3.9 GeV KaonLT data is attached here attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting.pdf .
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h3. May 3, 2022
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* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may03.odt  attachment:efficiencies_22may03.odt
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** Fixed all the settings for high Q2 KaonLT data. Also slide on accessing spectrometer angles from CODA
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** attachment:KaonLT_May_3.pdf
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** Analysis of 10.6 GeV heep data. Need to scale data to see how they compare with SIMC for smaller offsets. attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_3_22.pdf
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** The SIMC simulation study of the PinoLT data at Q2 = 0.38 and 0.42 GeV2 has completed (preliminary) for all settings.
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** An output pdf file of the 4.5 GeV, Q2 = 0.42 GeV2 and "center" setting is here attachment:Vijay_analysis_May3_2022.pdf .
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h3. April 19, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22apr19.txt
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** SIMC simulation updates at Q2 = 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 GeV2. attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_Meeting_Apr19_2022.pdf  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22apr06.txt
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* Ali 
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**  attachment:Analysis_Update_Apr_6.pdf 
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_6_22.pdf
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** The analysis of the 10.6 GeV heep coin/singles settings are still ongoing. 
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** There were some issues getting the replays working for the singles runs and the analysis. Things finally were sorted out yesterday (and this morning).
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** The SHMS heep singles are presented. Overall, they look fine. There are still some things to sort out.
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** The HMS heep singles are still running.
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** The simulation study of the 4.9 GeV KaonLT data has completed.
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** This energy has left, center and right settings data. All these settings look fine. 
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** See the pdf for more info. attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_Meeting_Apri_06_2022.pdf  
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h3. March 23, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22mar23.txt
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** 10.6 GeV heep coin was analyzed. Things look pretty good so far, still some work to be done. attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_23_22.pdf
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** Heep singles are next up. There have been issues replaying these runs but Ali may have fixed this issue with his parameter file changes.
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** Did chack of the Mode 10 plots for HGC, was discrepancy between hardware and software caused by the variable phgcer_SampNSAT being 2 by default.
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** after changing back to 1 discrepancy resolved. Slides: attachment:Mode10Update_2022Mar23.pdf
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h3. March 9, 2022
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* Regina March 4 meeting on pion leak through in (e,e'K+) analysis attachment:grp_22mar04.txt
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** Vijay's scripts are working and Richard reproduced some of his previous plots. attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_9_22.pdf
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** The next step is to do a full analysis of the 10.6 GeV heep coin/singles data.
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** Update on the current state of mode 10: attachment:Mode10Update_2022Mar9.pdf 
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** See Mark Jones' slide on changes to hcana: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1424
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h3. February 23, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22feb23.txt
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h3. January 26, 2022  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22jan26.txt
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* Vijay, Heep updates from the PionLT experiment. attachment:Analysis_Updates_Jan26_2022.pdf 
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** HMS single 2.7 GeV, total 6 settings. attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_1.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_2.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_3.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_4.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_5.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_6.pdf   
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** SHMS single 2.7 GeV,total 6 settings. attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_1.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_2.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_3.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_4.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_5.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_6.pdf
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** The 3.6 and 4.5 GeV data do not have elastic data.
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** Coin: 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 GeV. attachment:Analysed_2p7.pdf attachment:Analysed_3p6.pdf attachment:Analysed_4p5.pdf   
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* Nathan, Short update on the Mode 10
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** Short update. May need to update hcana to change software voltage threshold. attachment:2022-01-26NathanHeinrich.pdf
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* Jacob, EDTM Study 2
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** EDTM study with beam, taken during LUMI Scan 3
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** Early look at 3rd EDTM Study
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** Additional notes on increased deadtime in SHMS at High Current. attachment:PionLT_EDTM_Study2_Analysis.pdf
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h3. January 12, 2022  
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** PID study
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** Heep-singles study attachment:Analysis_Updates1_Jan12.pdf 
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** Mode-10 data variables
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h3. January 5, 2022  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22jan05.txt
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** Stephen was updating GitHub but UTIL_BATCH has some permissions issues
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** Update to KLT task schedule
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** Meeting between Richard and Vijay to discuss task breakdown Friday, January 7th at 11 am EST
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** EDTM study 2 will done sometime this weekend
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** Breakdown of HEEP single analysis for low Q2 data
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*** Shapes of SIMC and data are very off
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*** It seems to be a systematic issue on Vijay's part because the same issue is being seen in PLT data
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*** The main issue in my input file was the target thickness, which picked up by Dave in the group meeting. I corrected the target thickness and now it looks ok. See the attached pdf file below.  
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1376
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1375
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** Update on fADC mode 10 studies and the fADC deadtime studies
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1372
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** Summary of EDTM analysis so far in the PionLT experiment
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1373
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h3. August 4, 2021
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** Update on the HEEP singles. The remainder of energy setting ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1% and < 0.5% uncertainty).
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** Issues with the COIN are seen but may be a replay issue.
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h3. July 21, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1250/KaonLTMeeting7_14_21.pdf
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** Update on the HEEP singles. 10.6 GeV ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1%) but proper error bars are needed.
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h3. May 12, 2021
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** The currents were adjusted from 1-10 uA with little effect on the EDMTLT but proper changes to the CPULT. The replay bcm cut script developed by Sanghwa was also analyzed to see if it may be causing the issue but it had the same effects. There was also a small error in the code found where T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTimeRaw was incorrectly written as T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTime.
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h3. April 28, 2021
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** Lumi table was created for 2 sets of runs. Odd behavior seen ~30-45 uA with EDTM where is drops. Playing with the current cuts is the next step.
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h3. April 14, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_4_14_21.pdf
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** Updated Lumi carbon plots with uncertainties. PID and current cuts need to be played around with a bit to see if they improve things (as uncertainties don't explain any boiling-type behaviors). 
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** Some PionLT carbon runs were looked at but there are still some issues (either cut or pathing related).
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h3. March 31, 2021
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** Luminosity studies
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**** Still having issues getting decent results. I think I am just missing a definition somewhere that I need to track down
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**** Easy to do, I just need to put it into my script
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** Explicit PS calculations
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*** I have gotten a rough script working for very simple runs (ie low rate, single spectrometer, calibration runs)
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*** I am trying to expand to lumi singles runs, things get a bit more complex so I am just working out the trigger correlations
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**** I checked out the DEF-files for our combination of the nested files
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**** There are a lot a files (~150!!!!) and may be hard to track so next week *we should make a flowchart together*
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**** Working on my list of branches for the next replay
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***** Mainly just working on my list of branches for the explicit PS calculations
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***** *Everyone should have a list of these branches by next mini-meeting (4/7/21)*
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** Updated DEF-File for the "full" replay
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*** Can't remove NData brances, Mark says they won't take up too many resources anyway
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*** Removed individual PMT info and raw info for many detectors, reduced file size by factor ~2
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** Updating DEF-files/scripts for calibrations as part of PionLT prep
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** Will focus on DEF-file/DEF-cut file updates over next week
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h3. March 24, 2021
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* "Task summary from Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Replay_2_Tasks
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h3. March 17, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_17_21.pdf
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** I have re-run the carbon lumi runs with the changes to the replay events (i.e. All_events_NO_EDTM). The results look pretty good (within a few percent). There are still some trends I need to investigate for certain runs and I need to do the analysis for the pionLT carbon lumi data.
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* Mini meeting March 24th @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 3, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_3_21.pdf
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** I found an issue with the replay scripts used where the EDTM was not being properly registered. There is a discrepancy between two replay scripts depending on what the Decode_master is set to (i.e. ALL_events vs ALL_events_NO_EDTM). 
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** The explicit calculation of the prescale has hit a snag because of the differences between 6 GeV and 12 GeV. I contacted Mark Jones, who explained there are significant differences in the ADC gate between the two eras (which my own findings confirmed). I have contacted Brad for further input.
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h3. February 17, 2021
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** Tried to remove some cumbersome elements to the analysis scripts without success. A few runs were added to a well behaved set of lumi runs with good consistency.
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** Presented an update on the Hodoscope Calibrations: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1196/HodoscopeUpdate_2021Feb17.pdf
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h3. February 3, 2021
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** A table with the aerogel efficiency for kaons is being created. It will be expanded to other particles and detectors.
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h3. January 20, 2021
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** All KaonLT carbon runs have been analyzed. There are still some issues that seem to be related to the pre-scale values. I may need to investigate the EDTM and/or the COIN events further to correct for these.
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h3. January 6, 2021
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** Analyzed most of the luminosity scans. There are a few issues I am investigating still which seem to be run related. 
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h3. December 2, 2020
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** Richard included the EDTM to Lumi analysis and found some old analysis of scalers by Mark Jones that he will compare. Ali and Richard met last week and will begin combining Ali's tracking studies with Richard's lumi analysis.
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h3. November 18, 2020
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* "Carlos":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1103/LiveTime_Study_cyero.pdf
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** He is investigating some of the EDTM rate dependence and sees a discrepancy between the total EDTM LT and CPU LT with a sudden dip at 20-30 kHz. More luminosity runs will need to be studied for a full conclusion.
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1101/KaonLTMeeting11_18_20.pdf
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** Scaler analysis matches Carlos' code now. Overall significant improvements were made through some cut adjustments and incorrect variable definitions.
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** Updated the hallc_replay_lt with parameter files for all coin peaks.
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h3. November 4, 2020
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1092/KaonLTMeeting11_4_20.pdf
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** Scaler analysis is getting closer to an answer. An in-depth comparison of Carlos and Richard's analysis shows inconsistencies between the two. 
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h3. October 28, 2020
431
432
* Ali
433 177 Richard Trotta
** Went over some of his tracking procedures for the report file implementation
434 172 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1091/KaonLTMeeting10_28_20.pdf
435 173 Richard Trotta
** Luminosity analysis continues. There are still some issues but things have improved a bit.
436 171 Stephen Kay
* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1090/KaonLT_Meeting_28_10_20.pdf
437
** Discussion of CT peak analysis, progress and outline of what's left to do with this
438 174 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
439 176 Richard Trotta
** Dry run for Mark's hallc meeting tomorrow (10/29)
440 170 Richard Trotta
441
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442
443 164 Richard Trotta
h3. October 14, 2020
444
445 168 Richard Trotta
* Ali
446 164 Richard Trotta
** Working through the REPORT_FILES template to get everything working and outputting proper information.
447
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1085/KaonLTMeeting_10_14_20.pdf
448
** Updates on lumi scans. There are many issues from Scalers to Tracking that need to be resolved.
449 167 Richard Trotta
* Stephen
450 164 Richard Trotta
** He has included a demo for using the python analysis script in the README.
451 1 Richard Trotta
452 164 Richard Trotta
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453
454 161 Richard Trotta
h3. September 23, 2020
455
456
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1078/KaonLTMeeting_9_23_20.pdf
457
** A quick lumi analysis after the Pass1 runs. The results were compared to previously analyzed runs (5154-5158). There was some change but nothing huge. Some other runs with the same energy settings were analyzed as well. 
458
* Stephen
459 162 Richard Trotta
** Showed some slides from u-channel meeting of omega and proton MM  plots. Then discussed some ideas for dealing with the hole in the HGCer.
460
* Petr
461
** Data fitting algorithm based on E.H. Bellamy paper. Extracts PMT spectra from ROOT file and makes a 1D projection histogram.
462 161 Richard Trotta
463
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464
465 149 Richard Trotta
h3. September 9, 2020
466 156 Richard Trotta
467
* Richard
468 157 Richard Trotta
** Still working on run list, GUI checks
469 156 Richard Trotta
* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/567
470
** New slim replay scripts and full replay scripts updated
471
* Ali
472
** Him and Stephen found an issue (already aware of) with zeros in the parameter files using Mark's hcana changes
473
** Need to be vigilant of crashed replays because this is probably the issue
474 158 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
475 156 Richard Trotta
** Nearly finished with HGcer calibrations
476 1 Richard Trotta
477 156 Richard Trotta
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478
479
h3. August 26, 2020
480
481 149 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/483 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/479
482 154 Richard Trotta
483
* Richard
484
** New tasks were created based on the previous discussions on objectives going forward. In the process of checking run sheets against the run list and camera/EPICS.
485
* Stephen
486
** Updated on RF times. There were a few issues with some runs, but overall most are finished.
487
* Ali
488
** Hodoscope calibrations look similar to before. There is still the issue of the double bands in the time walk. This is ok because of the wide windows we still have. (See "hodoscope calibration section":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks#Calibrations-Mid-to-Late-August-2020)
489
* Vijay
490 150 Richard Trotta
** Updated the SHMS HGCher analysis. The calibrations are coming along, but a little more work needs to be finished up.
491 1 Richard Trotta
492 149 Richard Trotta
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493
494 144 Richard Trotta
h3. July 29, 2020
495 147 Stephen Kay
496 148 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1029/klt_7_29_20.html "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/106
497 146 Stephen Kay
498 155 Richard Trotta
* Stephen
499
** Updates on scripts to set pedestal defaults and AdcTdc offsets after hcana change
500
* Richard
501
** Updated plan and schedule for the analysis going forward
502 1 Richard Trotta
503 144 Richard Trotta
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504
505 139 Richard Trotta
h3. July 8, 2020
506 1 Richard Trotta
507 139 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1023/SHMS%20Proton%20Absorption.ods "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1022/KaonLT_Meeting_Jul_8.pdf
508 150 Richard Trotta
509 139 Richard Trotta
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510
511 132 Richard Trotta
h3. June 24, 2020
512
513 143 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1014/Vijay_24_June_20.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1013/KaonLTMeeting_6_24_20.pdf
514 132 Richard Trotta
515
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516
517 129 Richard Trotta
h3. June 9, 2020
518
519 135 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1006/Vijay_9_June_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1007/KaonLT_Meeting_Jun_9.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1005/KaonLTMeeting_6_9_20.pdf
520 129 Richard Trotta
521
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522
523 125 Richard Trotta
h3. May 27, 2020
524
525 126 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1002/Vijay_26_May_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1003/KaonLT_Meeting_May_27%20%5BAutosaved%5D.pdf
526 128 Richard Trotta
527 125 Richard Trotta
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528
529 118 Stephen Kay
h3. May 13, 2020
530 124 Richard Trotta
531 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/993/KaonLT_Meeting_13_05_20.pdf - Python analysis scripts "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/998/KaonLTMeeting_5_13_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/997/KaonLT_Meeting_May_13.pdf "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/999/Vijay_13_May_20.pdf
532 1 Richard Trotta
533 121 Richard Trotta
----
534
535 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 29, 2020
536
537 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/984/KaonLTMeeting_4_29_20.pdf "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/985/KaonLT_Meeting_29_04_20.pdf - Python code planning "Mark's hcana tracking update":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/982/Updates-to-HCANA-tracking.pdf
538 106 Richard Trotta
539 1 Richard Trotta
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540 106 Richard Trotta
541 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 15, 2020
542 104 Richard Trotta
543 102 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/977/KaonLTMeeting_4_15_20.pdf
544 105 Richard Trotta
545 102 Richard Trotta
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546 95 Stephen Kay
547 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 1, 2020
548 100 Stephen Kay
549 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/949/KaonLT_Meeting_01_04_20.pdf - RF timing "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/948/KaonLTMeeting_4_1_20.pdf
550 101 Richard Trotta
551 41 Stephen Kay
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552 93 Richard Trotta
553 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 18, 2020
554 93 Richard Trotta
555
*Links to talks->* "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/942/DRAFT2_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
556 1 Richard Trotta
557 93 Richard Trotta
----
558 91 Richard Trotta
559 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 11, 2020
560 92 Richard Trotta
561 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/940/KaonLT_Meeting_Mar_11.pdf "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/941/DRAFT1_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
562 94 Richard Trotta
563 91 Richard Trotta
----
564 88 Richard Trotta
565 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Feb 26, 2020
566 90 Richard Trotta
567
* Peter's changes to hcana should be coming soon. Richard will check with Mark when he is down there for an update.
568
* Need to incorporate the latest "BCM updates":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/doc-public/ShowDocument?docid=1034 from Dave Mack.
569 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard should look at the luminosity scalar analysis before and after the BCM changes once he gets his script working again.
570 88 Richard Trotta
**  He is checking with Mark about this while he is down in jlab. 
571 1 Richard Trotta
572
----
573 86 Richard Trotta
574 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Feb 10, 2020 
575 87 Richard Trotta
576 86 Richard Trotta
----
577 1 Richard Trotta
578 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 22, 2020
579 83 Richard Trotta
580
*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/937/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020_Draft1.pdf
581 85 Richard Trotta
582 1 Richard Trotta
----
583 83 Richard Trotta
584 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 15,2020
585 81 Richard Trotta
586 82 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/936/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020.pdf
587 81 Richard Trotta
588
----
589 78 Richard Trotta
590 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 8,2020
591 78 Richard Trotta
592 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/76
593 79 Richard Trotta
594 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard
595
** PID efficiency script is coming together
596
*** Tighter cuts and cuts on timing, beta, etc. will be needed for cleaner electron cuts
597
*** Hcal cut should be changed to cut around the mean normalized value instead of cutting above or below it only. This will assure electrons aren't lost.
598
599 80 Richard Trotta
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600 113 Richard Trotta
601 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2019 Meetings
602 80 Richard Trotta
603 141 Stephen Kay
----
604
605 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Dec 17,2019
606
607 77 Richard Trotta
Reminder: Mark Jones' commissioning analysis meetings are bi-weekly and announced by Mark
608
609
* Stephen
610
** Number of passes finished for HMS calorimeter
611
*** Still wiggles in all passes
612
** Finished his report on calibrations, "DC and Calorimeters":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/74
613
** Put together a list of people's jobs from Regina over the next couple of months, "Regina Analysis Tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/75
614
*** CUA will be putting together a similar list
615 1 Richard Trotta
616 77 Richard Trotta
* Richard
617
** Fixed one error issue with SHMS calorimeter calibration code (discussed Dec 10th meeting), but still have one error
618
** PID efficiency script plots are complete, but still some questions he needs to work out before a final version
619
*** Eventually need to include tracking into PID efficiencies
620
** Pete brought up the question for a number of multi-hits we are getting
621
*** (Dead Time)+(Trigger efficiency)-EDTM
622
623
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624 72 Richard Trotta
625 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Dec 10,2019
626 72 Richard Trotta
627 74 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/73
628
629
* Garth and Stephen were in the most recent SIDIS meeting
630
** Wit had lots of hcana changes but they seem to be critical to our work 
631
*** Changes such as new detector classes
632 1 Richard Trotta
** Hopefully Wit will present these in the next commissioning meeting
633
634 77 Richard Trotta
* Stephen improved wiggles but still prevalent
635 74 Richard Trotta
636
* Richard finished HGCer calibrations, he concluded that the online parameters are sufficient
637
** He also has been looking at SHMS calorimeter calibrations but has had issues running the scripts. Most likely a pathing issue.
638
** The "tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks page has been updated with a section for efficiencies. 
639
*** A PID efficiency script is currently being developed and hopefully should have some plots for our next meeting.
640
641 75 Richard Trotta
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642 74 Richard Trotta
643 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 26,2019
644 71 Richard Trotta
645
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/480
646
647
* Stephen
648
** DC SHMS, small-angle has poor performance
649
*** Tighter cuts or PID (currently only looks for electrons)
650
** Vardan said calorimeter wiggles are an ongoing issue with no current solution
651
652
* Richard
653 1 Richard Trotta
** The calibrations are nearing completion with only the HG Cherenkov and SHMS calorimeter yet to be finished. There are also smaller issues with some DC and HMS calorimeter runs.
654 71 Richard Trotta
*** Richard will pick up looking at the HGCer calibrations from Vijay's scripts. 
655
*** Richard will also be looking at the SHMS calorimeter and with the suggestion of getting some negatively polarized SHMS runs from Hem.
656
** The HMS Cherenkov is finished with the conclusion that the calibrations from the online runs are good
657
** We can begin looking forward towards efficiencies. 
658
*** Garth suggested that looking at PID may be an advantageous first steps. Precise definitions of these PIDs will need to be logged.
659
*** Clear notes on efficiencies steps will be needed. They will need to be redefined multiple times in multiple ways. 
660
661
* Hem
662
** Has been looking at the calorimeter as well. 
663 70 Richard Trotta
** He has seen the second band in the spectra for some runs, we suggested further looks into HMS hodoscope and subsequently reference times. A recalibration will need to be performed.  
664
665
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666
667 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 19,2019
668 1 Richard Trotta
669 70 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
670
671
* Richard
672
** Finished up TDC cut paper going through the procedure (found "here":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500)
673
** Needed to add Carlos pre-trigger designs to an appendix for the paper which clarifies the introduction section
674
675
* Stephen
676
** Issues with DC calibration for only a few runs during each run period
677
** "wiggles" in HMS calorimeter calibrations for some runs
678
*** few runs where HMS cal totally failed (which was dependent on initial parameters)
679
*** Spring looked worse than the rest (surprisingly), but this may be because online calibration wasn't great
680
681 2 Richard Trotta
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682 68 Richard Trotta
683 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 5,2019
684 68 Richard Trotta
685
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
686
687
* Timing update (Stephen)
688
** Reference times between Richard and Stephen are very similar and the GitHub is updated accordingly
689
** Richard is going to add the trigger time cuts once the fall runs are finished (by end of week)
690
** First pass of detector reference time parameter files finished
691 1 Richard Trotta
692 68 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana code (Richard and Stephen)
693
** Peter's code does not remove ghost bands (already known), but now Stephen is seeing a strang horizontal band for just SHMS hodoscope 2D plots
694
*** Richard has emailed Peter about the issue with no response yet (follow-up soon)
695
** This means we still need the reference time amplitude cut with Peter's code but using just the amplitude cut with Mark's latest version of hcana should be sufficient for calibrations.
696
697
* Calibrations were decided to be done once per shift
698
699
* Next meeting schedule...
700 127 Richard Trotta
** Small meetings Nov 12 and Nov 19 (at 3pm EST) so Richard and Stephen can iron out the timing and calibrations
701
** November 26 (at 3pm EST) will be a larger meeting. 
702 68 Richard Trotta
*** This is the rough deadline we made for finishing up calibrations. 
703
*** This should be sufficient for all detectors (although hodoscope and HG which may persist). The ultimate goal is for all calibrations to be finished up before Winter break!!
704
705
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706
707 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Oct 22,2019
708 62 Richard Trotta
709 64 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
710 62 Richard Trotta
711 65 Richard Trotta
* SHMS Reference Time Amplitude Cuts(Stephen)
712
** Extra peaks in HG from cross-talk and "ghost-bands" due to ADC screw up
713
*** cuts applied on SHMS ADC ref time amplitude (greater than zero) done before any further event selection and histogram filling
714
** This is a temporary fix to "ghost-bands" and cross talk
715
*** Although for HG there is still a small peak. The hodoscope is fine.
716
** The time window is easier to set now.
717
** DC has been fine (since it uses TDC)
718
*** DC calibrations should be good to complete, other detectors need more fixes (i.e. the remaining "ghost-band")
719
** Hodoscope still bad but this might be because of that "ghost-band", needs to be further investigated
720
721 1 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana fixes for reference time (Richard)
722 67 Richard Trotta
** Peter implemented changes to hcana
723
** Two major issues...
724 1 Richard Trotta
## Amplitude goes to null and integral is low or negative which causes a rate-dependent efficiency. 
725 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter has used the average pulse value acquired over a large sample of runs for each detector. 
726 1 Richard Trotta
## Timing offset between EL-REAL and 3/4 is 130 ns which causes junk tracks at high SHMS rates (~6% of the time)
727 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter created a routine to find the best offset by means of matching TDC and ADC
728
** Richard has been checking for bugs in the code. 
729
*** It seems to be ready to implement, Richard emailed Peter for confirmation on the implementation in our group directory
730
731 1 Richard Trotta
* Calibration of HMS detectors when the timing is agreed upon by Stephen and Richard.
732 67 Richard Trotta
** Besides hodoscope which still has an issue with the script
733 65 Richard Trotta
** Stephen and Richard are having a meeting late next week to determine time window values
734 62 Richard Trotta
*** These will be relatively final, but on the wider side if adjustments need to be made in the future
735
736 1 Richard Trotta
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737 61 Richard Trotta
738 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 24,2019
739 61 Richard Trotta
740
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
741 1 Richard Trotta
742 61 Richard Trotta
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743 1 Richard Trotta
744 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 10,2019
745 59 Vijay Kumar
746
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/72 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
747 1 Richard Trotta
748
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749 55 Stephen Kay
750 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 26, 2019
751 55 Stephen Kay
752
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/70 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/71 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
753 1 Richard Trotta
754 54 Richard Trotta
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755
756 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 21, 2019
757 54 Richard Trotta
758 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 
759 54 Richard Trotta
760 42 Stephen Kay
----
761
762 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 14, 2019
763 1 Richard Trotta
764 46 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/64 "Update-Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/65 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/814/Analy_update3.pdf
765 42 Stephen Kay
766
767 35 Stephen Kay
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768 1 Richard Trotta
769 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 4, 2019
770 36 Vijay Kumar
771 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/56 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/57 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/58 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/59 "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/61
772 35 Stephen Kay
773 1 Richard Trotta
774 35 Stephen Kay
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775 1 Richard Trotta
776 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 21, 2019
777 1 Richard Trotta
778
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/52 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/? "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/53 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/54 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/55
779 35 Stephen Kay
780
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781 1 Richard Trotta
782 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 14, 2019
783 1 Richard Trotta
784 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/48 "Carlos' slides":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/49 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/50 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/51
785 1 Richard Trotta
786 35 Stephen Kay
----
787 1 Richard Trotta
788 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 30, 2019
789 1 Richard Trotta
790
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/45 "Richard's slides in wiki":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_How-To "Brad Computing":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/46 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/47
791 35 Stephen Kay
792 1 Richard Trotta
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793
794
h3. February 4, 2019
795
796
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/43 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/44
797
798
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799 113 Richard Trotta
800 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2018 Meetings
801 141 Stephen Kay
802
----
803 111 Richard Trotta
804
h3. August 21, 2018
805
806 1 Richard Trotta
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
807 35 Stephen Kay
808 1 Richard Trotta
----
809 35 Stephen Kay
810 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 8, 2018
811 35 Stephen Kay
812
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
813 1 Richard Trotta
814
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815 35 Stephen Kay
816 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 3, 2018
817 1 Richard Trotta
818 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383
819
*Links to talks->*
820 1 Richard Trotta
821 35 Stephen Kay
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822 1 Richard Trotta
823 111 Richard Trotta
h3. July 11, 2018
824 1 Richard Trotta
825 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #384
826 1 Richard Trotta
827 35 Stephen Kay
*Action items:*
828 1 Richard Trotta
829 35 Stephen Kay
* Update run plan, e.g. add prescales (Garth)
830
* Check on details of: magnet cycling procedure, minimum angles, MCC fringe field steering, beam energy measurements, optics checks (Tanja)
831
* Identify additional run coordinators (Tanja)
832
* Encourage collaborators to take shifts, e.g. FIU (Pete)
833
* Draft email about shifts etc. to collaboration (Tanja)
834
* Develop diagnostic scripts and kaonLT specific (Richard, Ryan)
835
* Continue documentation development, e.g. checklist, shift taker instructions, HowTo or link to generic Hall C HowTo, task list, web page (Richard, Garth)
836 1 Richard Trotta
837 35 Stephen Kay
*Discussions:*
838
839
* SHMS Aerogel Cherenkov: tray has been changed to SP-11 on 10 July, nominal time for change is 8 hours, one tray can stay in the hall to minimize overhead
840
* HGC: waiting for re-installation
841
* Trigger checkout: main items to keep in mind: fADC thresholds, timing HMS/SHMS - leading arm, possible rate limitations
842 1 Richard Trotta
* Shifts
843
* Diagnostics scripts and documentation
844
* Personnel schedules
845
846
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847
848 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 28, 2018
849 1 Richard Trotta
850
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/34
851
852
*Action Items:*
853
854
* Develop and post shift schedule. Send out request. Find out who is KAONLT liaison (Tanja)
855
* Contact potential run coordinators. (Tanja)
856
* Aerogel tray exchange for start of experiment and coordination of future exchanges (Vladimir)
857
* Update runplan and prepare documents needed for shift crew, e.g. run sheets (Garth)
858
* Set up a web page to collect and link from Redmine - How-To documents, initial calibrations, etc. (Garth, Richard)
859
* Adapt luminosity scan script to calculate kaon yields by run number for use during experiment by shift crew - has to be simple to use. (Richard)
860
* Develop trigger/detector checkout plan (Tanja, initial draft)
861
** Are all experts available at run start, experts needed: coincidence timing , Harp Scans, BCM calibrations, ...
862
* Find out from JLab what the anticipated settings are for limit switches for both spectrometers and for separation angle in between them. Also find out what magnet cycling procedure should be used for L/T quality separation data (Tanja)
863
* Find out if all aerogel trays needed for experiment can be stored inside Hall C to avoid having to open truck ramp (Vladimir)
864
865
*Analysis Updates:*
866
867
* Ryan 
868
** resolving differences between his analysis and Richard's
869
870
* Richard
871
** Discussed with Mark Jones and is cross checking his January luminosity scan analysis against Mark's. Realized that BCM calibrations (gains, offsets etc) are different - currently working on fixing that, presents current results - low curent point is ~10% below unity, discussion that this seems to indicate that BCM offsets are the issue as low current points would be most sensitive, is planning to also double-check the BCM calibration procedure - had discussion with Dave Mack at JLab
872
** Presents a script developed for luminosity scans that determines yields for a run number input on command line. Discussion this could be good to adapt for kaon counting during experiment.
873
874
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875
876 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 31, 2018
877 1 Richard Trotta
878 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
879 1 Richard Trotta
880 35 Stephen Kay
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881 1 Richard Trotta
882 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 17, 2018 
883 1 Richard Trotta
884 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/29, "Ryan":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/DocDB/0009/000968/001/Presentation.pdf, "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
885 2 Richard Trotta
886 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity scans (Richard, Ryan)
887 111 Richard Trotta
** Carbon scan from April seems consistent with no boiling, LH3 and LD2 show deviation from unity, should check effect of EDTM events on efficiencies
888 35 Stephen Kay
** Carbon scans from January (low rates) have large deviations from unity, in particular behavior at higher currents (>40uA), e.g. cpu dead time, that is not yet understood
889
** discussion about pre-scale factors
890 1 Richard Trotta
891 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion about Richard's script extracting and printing information from report files and trees including histograms
892
** Add option for looking at yields with cuts on cointime, target window, and missing mass
893
** Add option to look at real peak vs. background level
894 1 Richard Trotta
895 35 Stephen Kay
* H(e,e'p) kinematics investigation for fall run (Samip)
896
** Optimal range is between electron angles of 17-20 degrees, time required ranges from ~1 hour at 17 degrees to ~3 hour at 20 degrees, other angles may be of interest for disentangling charge and current dependent effects
897 1 Richard Trotta
898 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items*
899
** Luminosity scans at low rates from January (Richard)
900
** Luminosity scans from April with corrected efficiencies, e.d. DT (Ryan)
901
** H(e,e'p) and H(e,e') kinematics for upcoming Kaon LT run (Samip)
902
** Kaon LT detailed run plan (Garth, Pete, Tanja)
903
** Preparations, e.g. report files, diagnostic histograms and real time monitoring, shift worker instructions, optimization of trees (all)
904 1 Richard Trotta
905
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906
907 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 10, 2018
908 35 Stephen Kay
909 2 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hem":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/24, "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/23, "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/26
910 35 Stephen Kay
911
* Luminosity Scans January 2018 (Richard)
912
** Tracking-based analysis for Runs 1415-1423, .. for now focus on HMS, typical HMS S1X rates are <
913
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (Cer, Cal), acceptance (delta)
914
** Efficiency calculation was investigated in detail and applied using scalers from trees
915
** Results for carbon (normalized to 30uA) show large variation - need to understand
916
** *Next steps:*
917
*** Double check calculation of computer lifetime, look for differences in TRIG and PRETRIG scalers
918
*** Check stability of pre-scale (Ryan saw changes within runs)
919
*** Check if detector calibrations for runs are implemented correctly
920
*** Analyze with Ryan's cuts
921 1 Richard Trotta
922 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity Scans April 2018 (Ryan)
923
** Confirms Richard's earlier finding that scaler-based analysis is not reliable and that it's best to analyze event-by-event
924
** Tracking-based analysis for runs 2073-2095
925
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (TOF, Cal, Chi2), acceptance (delta and angles), BCM4a
926
** Included most recent detector calibrations in replay of these runs
927
** Efficiencies from report file mainly, may need to update tracking efficiency implementation
928
** Found that calculations of computer deadtime requires different set of scalers for runs from January to those from April 2018
929
** Results show carbon yields consistent with unity within error (0.5% error bars), and boiling for hydrogen and deuterium
930
** *Next steps:*
931 5 Richard Trotta
*** Check tracking efficiency
932 35 Stephen Kay
933
* *Global comments on Luminosity Scans (so far)*
934 1 Richard Trotta
** April 2018 scans show hydrogen and deuterium target boiling on level of 3-4%, Carbon is consistent with no boiling, as expected - based on description, new targets are expected to have less boiling than those used previously, e.g. in FPI2. Double check this.
935 35 Stephen Kay
** Efficiencies in report files need to be updated, e.g. CPU deadtime (Richard)
936
** Check if BCM4a is the one closest to the target - get a map of the hall (Richard, Ryan)
937
** Uncertainties on current
938
** Detector calibrations
939 1 Richard Trotta
** HMS vs. SHMS
940 35 Stephen Kay
941
* eK+ coincidence time from SIDIS Spring 2018 run (Samip)
942
** Worked with Mark Jones on coincidence time calculation - now available in hcana (see Samip's 10 May 2018 email for more details)
943
** runs used in this analysis: 3423 with Q2=3.1 GeV2 and W=2.78 GeV
944
** Coincidence time spectrum shows peak separations >2 ns corresponding to different accelerator frequency
945
** Missing mass spectra: Kaon peak clearly visible, also see pions even after cuts
946
** Found that pions appear localized in phase space - seems to be due to end point in kinematic phase space
947 1 Richard Trotta
** *Next steps:*
948 2 Richard Trotta
*** Look for a run with kaon momentum closer to 3 GeV/c (aerogel threshold is ~3 GeV/c for kaons for n=1.015)
949 35 Stephen Kay
950
* Yield normalized ratios from SIDIS (Hem)
951
** Yield ratios of data to MC match well in shape, but normalization seems not quite right
952
** *Next steps:*
953 4 Richard Trotta
*** Check if efficiencies, currents, run time etc. are taken into account correctly
954
955
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956 35 Stephen Kay
957 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 26, 2018
958 4 Richard Trotta
959 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard,":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/18 "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/25
960 4 Richard Trotta
961 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (earlier scan) - Richard
962
** Shown is a scaler-based analysis using scalers from report file and from ROOT tree - the values are different, why that is has to be checked
963
** Notes on efficiencies in report file:
964
*** DT (EDTM) is not electronic deadtime. Instead use for now 50ns* trigger rate for HMS and 100ns* trigger rate for SHMS
965
*** Cherenkov efficiency seems low (check if that is due to PID, thresholds, pi/e, etc)
966
*** Tracking efficiency needs to be checked
967
*** 3/4 trigger efficiency seems ok
968
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (later scan) - Ryan
969
** Fewer carbon runs than earlier scan
970
** Shown is a tracking-based analysis using data from the ROOT trees
971 111 Richard Trotta
** First results for carbon, LH3, and LD2, but efficiencies need to be checked
972 35 Stephen Kay
* SIDIS analysis - Hem
973
** Shown is a data/MC comparison for different kinematic settings. Agreement in shape is very good. Normalization has yet to be applied.
974
** Discussion about agreement in z and apparent offset - relation of this offset with spectrometer offset
975
* Analysis of exclusive events in SIDIS - Samip
976
** Shown is a look at the first kaon events in exclusive limit of SIDIS data
977
** Ongoing work on implementing coincidence time into tree
978
* Discussion of run plan, and in particular possible low Q2/low energy
979
** Assume that kaon low Q2=0.4 already included - have kinematics with specified beam energies, if needed
980
** For pion form factor and LT, have two possible settings that can use the prescribed beam energies: Q2=1.45 and 0.35 GeV2 - prioritize towards the higher Q2 as not as sensitive to offsets
981
** Garth will put this together in a draft email
982
983 12 Richard Trotta
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984
985 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 29, 2018
986 12 Richard Trotta
987 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/16 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/27
988 13 Richard Trotta
989 35 Stephen Kay
* Details of adding points to fall run plan - will be ready sooner, likely in week of 4/1 (Garth, Samip, Tanja)
990
* Luminosity scans (Ryan, Andres, Richard, Pete)
991
* Macros, SIDIS analysis (Hem, Anashe)
992
* Elastic data (TBD)
993
994 14 Richard Trotta
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995 18 Richard Trotta
996 111 Richard Trotta
h3. February 22, 2018
997 18 Richard Trotta
998 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Andres":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/19
999 18 Richard Trotta
1000 35 Stephen Kay
*  Discussion of Andres' slides on elastic W calculation in hcana - initial issue with negative W values seems to be due to outdated information in standard.kinematics file. Additional investigation ongoing.
1001
* Brief description of Samip's work - working on coincidence timing decoding with JLab staff and re-optimization of kinematics
1002
* Discussion of Richard's slides on run plan kinematics and preparations -
1003
** everyone agrees that in general want to have as many L/T cross section separations as possible in a robust run plan balancing statistics vs. systematics
1004
** before actual run may want to do a 3D optimization in all kinematic variables to get the best possible delta(epsilon) for the L/T separations
1005
** for each setting will need 1-2 shifts for calibrations - need to negotiate with other experiments in run group
1006
** kinematics plots W-Q2 show that still need to do some optimization
1007
** run sheets: include raster size, update coincidence count labeling, and carbon target labeling
1008
* Discussion of next meeting. Garth at JLab 8-16 March - might have meeting during that time.
1009 26 Richard Trotta
1010 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items:*
1011
** Post slides/notes from this meeting and procedure to set up hcana in Redmine (Tanja)
1012
** Update run sheet and kinematic optimization for W/Q2 (Garth)
1013
** Circulate elastic calculations for kinematic settings (Samip)
1014
** Continue investigation of elastic data and run plan kinematics (Andres/Richard)
1015
** Test software installation instructions (Pete)
1016
** Draft email to JLab management about need for small angle beam pipe - need to have HMS minimum angle of less than 13 degrees for kaon L/T separations (Tanja) 
1017 32 Stephen Kay
1018
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