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h1. *KaonLT/PionLT Meetings*
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KaonLT/PionLT collaboration analysis meetings. Please add your talk to the meeting ahead of time. Add the newest meeting to the top of the list!
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h2. 2022 Meetings
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h3. Sept 28, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22sep28.txt
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* Jacob
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** HMS optics fitting
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h3. Sept 21, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22sep21.txt
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* Richard
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** attachment:Yield_6p2cl1.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl2.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl1.pdf
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** Lumi SHMS tracking is still showing the trend from 9/8. It was found that the lumi replay script is not updated with many of Ali and Richard's most recent changes. These changes are being applied and a set of new replays will be done.
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** Bill's cross-section code is broken into two major parts. The root analysis part, which takes all the yields, uncertainties, etc., is nearly complete with the connecting ltsep framework script finishing up. The second part, where many of the final plots and cross-sections are done, is a hard-coded mess. Richard is in the process of making this more dynamic. This aspect will take more time but the root analysis part is the bulk of the analysis anyways.
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** attachment:Ali_Sep21_Analysis.pdf
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** Heep Coin analysis for high Q2 KaonLT data (6.2, 8.2, 10.6 GeV beam energy) has now all the efficiencies/live times applied. The results for all 3 beam energies are looking very good. Data/SIMC ratios are agreeing very well (< 3%) and the shapes are matching up nicely. Next step is to finalize offsets for both low and high Q2 KaonLT data. Also proton absorption correction and target boiling needs to be applied.
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h3. Sept 8, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22sep08.txt
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** attachment:Sep8_Analysis.pdf
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** Heep Coin Analysis update. Fixed the issue with emiss and pmiss. Includes number of debug tests.
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** attachment:FullAnalysis_4p9-2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_8p2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_6p2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_3p8-1.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_10p6-1.pdf
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** Full analysis files are the latest data/simc comparison for different beam energies (No offsets applied yet) 
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting9_8_22.pdf
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** attachment:Yield_6p2_l1_all.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6_l1_all.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6_l2_all.pdf
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** Improved total uncertainties
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** In-depth with tracking cut analysis underway
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** Poor TLT consistent with poor CPULTs
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h3. Aug 31, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug31.txt
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting8_31_22.pdf
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** Improvements to luminosity analysis. Things are getting within a few percent. There are still some obvious issues with dependency leaking into the cuts, especially for tracking which is being investigated further.
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** Uncertainties for the luminosities and heep are next up.
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h3. Aug 26, 2022
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* Meeting on L/T-separation procedure
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** Garth's slides attachment:LT_sep_iterations.pdf
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** Bill's tutorial (Nov 2018) attachment:Kaon_LT_tutorial_18nov28.pdf
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** Stephen's notes attachment:LTsep_mtg_22aug26.txt
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h3. Aug 17, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug17.txt
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* Vijay
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** The summary of the Heepcheck study is attached here. attachment:Vijay_Aug17_2022.pdf 
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** 3.6 and 3.9 GeV data do NOT have the angle offsets. This has been established in the study.
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** I've plotted the offsets vs SHMS central momentum. Plots are attached in the attached pdf file.
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** The 10.6 GeV heep analysis is going well but the broad momentum distributions are making offsets difficult at times.
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** I have decided to give a second pair of eyes to Ali's hcana vs simc calculation investigation. It is concluded that the broad peaks of the hcana are likely caused by the secondary particle calculation which is gathered from the spectrometer track info. 
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** Corrections to the simc pmiss components have been added to the fortran code which corrects for a minus sign that is in hcana but missing from simc.
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** attachment:FullAnalysis_Offset_10p6.pdf
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h3. Aug 4, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug04.txt
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** The offset HeepCheck study at 3.9, 4.9 (KaonLT), 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 (PionLT) GeV has been completed. attachment:Vijay_HeepCheckStudy.pdf  
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting_8_4_22.pdf
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** HeeP coin for 10p6 setting is looking pretty good. I still need to make some minor adjustments.
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** TLT for Lumi is looking much better. The yields also are looking better but cut adjustments need to be made.
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** HeeP singles have some odd issues that need to be resolved before offset analysis can begin.
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** Hodoscope calibrations are all done except 6p2.
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h3. July 14, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22jul14.txt
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_14_22.pdf
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** The W peaks for SIMC and data are very far offset from one another. This is being investigated.
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** Heep Data MC comparo w/o offsets attachment:Heep_coin_no_offsets_vijay_22jul08.pdf
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h3. June 28, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22jun28.txt
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** Aerogel XY plots vs NPE to check out the tray location and efficiencies.
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** Hodoscope and calorimeter scripts working. Hodoscope calibration looks good for 10p6 but needs improvement for other beam energies.
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** HGCer efficiency and plots added to efficiency script. Need to discuss with Vijay on specifics of cuts and efficiencies.
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** Started looking in detail at Bill's code. Some scripts and links are missing/broken.
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** EDTM Study Report completed, with newer versions of the TLT equations attachment:EDTM_Study_Report.pdf
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** Graphical Guide for Event Types created to accompany the report, illustrating prescaling with EDTM attachment:Graphical_Guide_Evt_Type.pdf
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** Plan to update report file template with new equations and errors soon
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h3. June 14, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:efficiencies_22jun13.txt
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** Fixed issues with simc script and 10p6 Heepcoin data. Issue with data was an offset of 40ns that was corrected halfway through runs.
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** Aerogel XY plots vs NPE to check out the tray location and efficiencies.
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** Efficiency plots for all production runs.
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_14_22.pdf
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h3. May 31, 2022
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** The updated Heep coin study (Heepcheck program) at 3.9 GeV KaonLT data is attached here attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting_May31_2022.pdf .
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** First look at the HEEP COIN Data/SIMC comparison for the 8.2 GeV Kaon-LT data attachment:KaonLT_May31.pdf
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h3. May 17, 2022
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* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may17.txt attachment:efficiencies_22may25.txt
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** Updated heep coin scripts for the farm. Ali is testing them and should be able to get plots soon.
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** There was a small typo in the simc input file that dramatically changed the shape of the plots. attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_17_22.pdf
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** Updated version of efficiency columns for the script that will grab efficiencies and various other values. attachment:efficiency_output_list.docx
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** The updated heep coin study (some spectrometers offsets changed) at 3.9 GeV KaonLT data is attached here attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting.pdf .
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h3. May 3, 2022
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* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may03.odt  attachment:efficiencies_22may03.odt
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** Fixed all the settings for high Q2 KaonLT data. Also slide on accessing spectrometer angles from CODA
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** attachment:KaonLT_May_3.pdf
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** Analysis of 10.6 GeV heep data. Need to scale data to see how they compare with SIMC for smaller offsets. attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_3_22.pdf
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** The SIMC simulation study of the PinoLT data at Q2 = 0.38 and 0.42 GeV2 has completed (preliminary) for all settings.
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** An output pdf file of the 4.5 GeV, Q2 = 0.42 GeV2 and "center" setting is here attachment:Vijay_analysis_May3_2022.pdf .
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h3. April 19, 2022
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** SIMC simulation updates at Q2 = 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 GeV2. attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_Meeting_Apr19_2022.pdf  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22apr06.txt
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**  attachment:Analysis_Update_Apr_6.pdf 
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_6_22.pdf
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** The analysis of the 10.6 GeV heep coin/singles settings are still ongoing. 
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** There were some issues getting the replays working for the singles runs and the analysis. Things finally were sorted out yesterday (and this morning).
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** The SHMS heep singles are presented. Overall, they look fine. There are still some things to sort out.
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** The HMS heep singles are still running.
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** The simulation study of the 4.9 GeV KaonLT data has completed.
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** This energy has left, center and right settings data. All these settings look fine. 
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** See the pdf for more info. attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_Meeting_Apri_06_2022.pdf  
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h3. March 23, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22mar23.txt
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** 10.6 GeV heep coin was analyzed. Things look pretty good so far, still some work to be done. attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_23_22.pdf
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** Heep singles are next up. There have been issues replaying these runs but Ali may have fixed this issue with his parameter file changes.
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** Did chack of the Mode 10 plots for HGC, was discrepancy between hardware and software caused by the variable phgcer_SampNSAT being 2 by default.
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** after changing back to 1 discrepancy resolved. Slides: attachment:Mode10Update_2022Mar23.pdf
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h3. March 9, 2022
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* Regina March 4 meeting on pion leak through in (e,e'K+) analysis attachment:grp_22mar04.txt
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** Vijay's scripts are working and Richard reproduced some of his previous plots. attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_9_22.pdf
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** The next step is to do a full analysis of the 10.6 GeV heep coin/singles data.
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** Update on the current state of mode 10: attachment:Mode10Update_2022Mar9.pdf 
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** See Mark Jones' slide on changes to hcana: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1424
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h3. February 23, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22feb23.txt
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h3. January 26, 2022  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22jan26.txt
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* Vijay, Heep updates from the PionLT experiment. attachment:Analysis_Updates_Jan26_2022.pdf 
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** HMS single 2.7 GeV, total 6 settings. attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_1.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_2.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_3.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_4.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_5.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_6.pdf   
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** SHMS single 2.7 GeV,total 6 settings. attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_1.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_2.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_3.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_4.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_5.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_6.pdf
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** The 3.6 and 4.5 GeV data do not have elastic data.
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** Coin: 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 GeV. attachment:Analysed_2p7.pdf attachment:Analysed_3p6.pdf attachment:Analysed_4p5.pdf   
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* Nathan, Short update on the Mode 10
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** Short update. May need to update hcana to change software voltage threshold. attachment:2022-01-26NathanHeinrich.pdf
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* Jacob, EDTM Study 2
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** EDTM study with beam, taken during LUMI Scan 3
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** Early look at 3rd EDTM Study
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** Additional notes on increased deadtime in SHMS at High Current. attachment:PionLT_EDTM_Study2_Analysis.pdf
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h3. January 12, 2022  
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** PID study
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** Heep-singles study attachment:Analysis_Updates1_Jan12.pdf 
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** Mode-10 data variables
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h3. January 5, 2022  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22jan05.txt
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** Stephen was updating GitHub but UTIL_BATCH has some permissions issues
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** Update to KLT task schedule
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** Meeting between Richard and Vijay to discuss task breakdown Friday, January 7th at 11 am EST
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** EDTM study 2 will done sometime this weekend
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** Breakdown of HEEP single analysis for low Q2 data
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*** Shapes of SIMC and data are very off
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*** It seems to be a systematic issue on Vijay's part because the same issue is being seen in PLT data
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*** The main issue in my input file was the target thickness, which picked up by Dave in the group meeting. I corrected the target thickness and now it looks ok. See the attached pdf file below.  
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1376
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1375
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** Update on fADC mode 10 studies and the fADC deadtime studies
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** Summary of EDTM analysis so far in the PionLT experiment
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1373
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h3. August 4, 2021
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** Update on the HEEP singles. The remainder of energy setting ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1% and < 0.5% uncertainty).
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** Issues with the COIN are seen but may be a replay issue.
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h3. July 21, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1250/KaonLTMeeting7_14_21.pdf
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** Update on the HEEP singles. 10.6 GeV ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1%) but proper error bars are needed.
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h3. May 12, 2021
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** The currents were adjusted from 1-10 uA with little effect on the EDMTLT but proper changes to the CPULT. The replay bcm cut script developed by Sanghwa was also analyzed to see if it may be causing the issue but it had the same effects. There was also a small error in the code found where T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTimeRaw was incorrectly written as T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTime.
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h3. April 28, 2021
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** Lumi table was created for 2 sets of runs. Odd behavior seen ~30-45 uA with EDTM where is drops. Playing with the current cuts is the next step.
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h3. April 14, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_4_14_21.pdf
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** Updated Lumi carbon plots with uncertainties. PID and current cuts need to be played around with a bit to see if they improve things (as uncertainties don't explain any boiling-type behaviors). 
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** Some PionLT carbon runs were looked at but there are still some issues (either cut or pathing related).
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h3. March 31, 2021
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** Luminosity studies
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**** Still having issues getting decent results. I think I am just missing a definition somewhere that I need to track down
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**** Easy to do, I just need to put it into my script
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** Explicit PS calculations
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*** I have gotten a rough script working for very simple runs (ie low rate, single spectrometer, calibration runs)
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*** I am trying to expand to lumi singles runs, things get a bit more complex so I am just working out the trigger correlations
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** Pass 2 runs
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**** I checked out the DEF-files for our combination of the nested files
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**** There are a lot a files (~150!!!!) and may be hard to track so next week *we should make a flowchart together*
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**** Working on my list of branches for the next replay
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***** Mainly just working on my list of branches for the explicit PS calculations
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***** *Everyone should have a list of these branches by next mini-meeting (4/7/21)*
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** Updated DEF-File for the "full" replay
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*** Can't remove NData brances, Mark says they won't take up too many resources anyway
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*** Removed individual PMT info and raw info for many detectors, reduced file size by factor ~2
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** Updating DEF-files/scripts for calibrations as part of PionLT prep
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** Will focus on DEF-file/DEF-cut file updates over next week
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h3. March 24, 2021
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* "Task summary from Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Replay_2_Tasks
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h3. March 17, 2021
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** I have re-run the carbon lumi runs with the changes to the replay events (i.e. All_events_NO_EDTM). The results look pretty good (within a few percent). There are still some trends I need to investigate for certain runs and I need to do the analysis for the pionLT carbon lumi data.
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* Mini meeting March 24th @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 3, 2021
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** I found an issue with the replay scripts used where the EDTM was not being properly registered. There is a discrepancy between two replay scripts depending on what the Decode_master is set to (i.e. ALL_events vs ALL_events_NO_EDTM). 
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** The explicit calculation of the prescale has hit a snag because of the differences between 6 GeV and 12 GeV. I contacted Mark Jones, who explained there are significant differences in the ADC gate between the two eras (which my own findings confirmed). I have contacted Brad for further input.
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h3. February 17, 2021
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** Tried to remove some cumbersome elements to the analysis scripts without success. A few runs were added to a well behaved set of lumi runs with good consistency.
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** Presented an update on the Hodoscope Calibrations: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1196/HodoscopeUpdate_2021Feb17.pdf
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h3. February 3, 2021
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** A table with the aerogel efficiency for kaons is being created. It will be expanded to other particles and detectors.
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h3. January 20, 2021
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** All KaonLT carbon runs have been analyzed. There are still some issues that seem to be related to the pre-scale values. I may need to investigate the EDTM and/or the COIN events further to correct for these.
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h3. January 6, 2021
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** Analyzed most of the luminosity scans. There are a few issues I am investigating still which seem to be run related. 
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h3. December 2, 2020
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** Richard included the EDTM to Lumi analysis and found some old analysis of scalers by Mark Jones that he will compare. Ali and Richard met last week and will begin combining Ali's tracking studies with Richard's lumi analysis.
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h3. November 18, 2020
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* "Carlos":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1103/LiveTime_Study_cyero.pdf
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** He is investigating some of the EDTM rate dependence and sees a discrepancy between the total EDTM LT and CPU LT with a sudden dip at 20-30 kHz. More luminosity runs will need to be studied for a full conclusion.
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1101/KaonLTMeeting11_18_20.pdf
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** Scaler analysis matches Carlos' code now. Overall significant improvements were made through some cut adjustments and incorrect variable definitions.
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** Updated the hallc_replay_lt with parameter files for all coin peaks.
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h3. November 4, 2020
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1092/KaonLTMeeting11_4_20.pdf
430 321 Richard Trotta
** Scaler analysis is getting closer to an answer. An in-depth comparison of Carlos and Richard's analysis shows inconsistencies between the two. 
431 178 Richard Trotta
432 141 Stephen Kay
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433
434 170 Richard Trotta
h3. October 28, 2020
435
436
* Ali
437 177 Richard Trotta
** Went over some of his tracking procedures for the report file implementation
438 172 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1091/KaonLTMeeting10_28_20.pdf
439 173 Richard Trotta
** Luminosity analysis continues. There are still some issues but things have improved a bit.
440 171 Stephen Kay
* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1090/KaonLT_Meeting_28_10_20.pdf
441
** Discussion of CT peak analysis, progress and outline of what's left to do with this
442 174 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
443 176 Richard Trotta
** Dry run for Mark's hallc meeting tomorrow (10/29)
444 170 Richard Trotta
445
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446
447 164 Richard Trotta
h3. October 14, 2020
448
449 168 Richard Trotta
* Ali
450 164 Richard Trotta
** Working through the REPORT_FILES template to get everything working and outputting proper information.
451
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1085/KaonLTMeeting_10_14_20.pdf
452
** Updates on lumi scans. There are many issues from Scalers to Tracking that need to be resolved.
453 167 Richard Trotta
* Stephen
454 164 Richard Trotta
** He has included a demo for using the python analysis script in the README.
455 1 Richard Trotta
456 164 Richard Trotta
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457
458 161 Richard Trotta
h3. September 23, 2020
459
460
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1078/KaonLTMeeting_9_23_20.pdf
461
** A quick lumi analysis after the Pass1 runs. The results were compared to previously analyzed runs (5154-5158). There was some change but nothing huge. Some other runs with the same energy settings were analyzed as well. 
462
* Stephen
463 162 Richard Trotta
** Showed some slides from u-channel meeting of omega and proton MM  plots. Then discussed some ideas for dealing with the hole in the HGCer.
464
* Petr
465
** Data fitting algorithm based on E.H. Bellamy paper. Extracts PMT spectra from ROOT file and makes a 1D projection histogram.
466 161 Richard Trotta
467
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468
469 149 Richard Trotta
h3. September 9, 2020
470 156 Richard Trotta
471
* Richard
472 157 Richard Trotta
** Still working on run list, GUI checks
473 156 Richard Trotta
* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/567
474
** New slim replay scripts and full replay scripts updated
475
* Ali
476
** Him and Stephen found an issue (already aware of) with zeros in the parameter files using Mark's hcana changes
477
** Need to be vigilant of crashed replays because this is probably the issue
478 158 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
479 156 Richard Trotta
** Nearly finished with HGcer calibrations
480 1 Richard Trotta
481 156 Richard Trotta
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482
483
h3. August 26, 2020
484
485 149 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/483 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/479
486 154 Richard Trotta
487
* Richard
488
** New tasks were created based on the previous discussions on objectives going forward. In the process of checking run sheets against the run list and camera/EPICS.
489
* Stephen
490
** Updated on RF times. There were a few issues with some runs, but overall most are finished.
491
* Ali
492
** Hodoscope calibrations look similar to before. There is still the issue of the double bands in the time walk. This is ok because of the wide windows we still have. (See "hodoscope calibration section":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks#Calibrations-Mid-to-Late-August-2020)
493
* Vijay
494 150 Richard Trotta
** Updated the SHMS HGCher analysis. The calibrations are coming along, but a little more work needs to be finished up.
495 1 Richard Trotta
496 149 Richard Trotta
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497
498 144 Richard Trotta
h3. July 29, 2020
499 147 Stephen Kay
500 148 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1029/klt_7_29_20.html "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/106
501 146 Stephen Kay
502 155 Richard Trotta
* Stephen
503
** Updates on scripts to set pedestal defaults and AdcTdc offsets after hcana change
504
* Richard
505
** Updated plan and schedule for the analysis going forward
506 1 Richard Trotta
507 144 Richard Trotta
----
508
509 139 Richard Trotta
h3. July 8, 2020
510 1 Richard Trotta
511 139 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1023/SHMS%20Proton%20Absorption.ods "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1022/KaonLT_Meeting_Jul_8.pdf
512 150 Richard Trotta
513 139 Richard Trotta
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514
515 132 Richard Trotta
h3. June 24, 2020
516
517 143 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1014/Vijay_24_June_20.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1013/KaonLTMeeting_6_24_20.pdf
518 132 Richard Trotta
519
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520
521 129 Richard Trotta
h3. June 9, 2020
522
523 135 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1006/Vijay_9_June_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1007/KaonLT_Meeting_Jun_9.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1005/KaonLTMeeting_6_9_20.pdf
524 129 Richard Trotta
525
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526
527 125 Richard Trotta
h3. May 27, 2020
528
529 126 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1002/Vijay_26_May_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1003/KaonLT_Meeting_May_27%20%5BAutosaved%5D.pdf
530 128 Richard Trotta
531 125 Richard Trotta
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532
533 118 Stephen Kay
h3. May 13, 2020
534 124 Richard Trotta
535 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/993/KaonLT_Meeting_13_05_20.pdf - Python analysis scripts "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/998/KaonLTMeeting_5_13_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/997/KaonLT_Meeting_May_13.pdf "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/999/Vijay_13_May_20.pdf
536 1 Richard Trotta
537 121 Richard Trotta
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538
539 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 29, 2020
540
541 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/984/KaonLTMeeting_4_29_20.pdf "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/985/KaonLT_Meeting_29_04_20.pdf - Python code planning "Mark's hcana tracking update":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/982/Updates-to-HCANA-tracking.pdf
542 106 Richard Trotta
543 1 Richard Trotta
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544 106 Richard Trotta
545 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 15, 2020
546 104 Richard Trotta
547 102 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/977/KaonLTMeeting_4_15_20.pdf
548 105 Richard Trotta
549 102 Richard Trotta
----
550 95 Stephen Kay
551 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 1, 2020
552 100 Stephen Kay
553 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/949/KaonLT_Meeting_01_04_20.pdf - RF timing "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/948/KaonLTMeeting_4_1_20.pdf
554 101 Richard Trotta
555 41 Stephen Kay
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556 93 Richard Trotta
557 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 18, 2020
558 93 Richard Trotta
559
*Links to talks->* "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/942/DRAFT2_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
560 1 Richard Trotta
561 93 Richard Trotta
----
562 91 Richard Trotta
563 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 11, 2020
564 92 Richard Trotta
565 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/940/KaonLT_Meeting_Mar_11.pdf "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/941/DRAFT1_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
566 94 Richard Trotta
567 91 Richard Trotta
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568 88 Richard Trotta
569 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Feb 26, 2020
570 90 Richard Trotta
571
* Peter's changes to hcana should be coming soon. Richard will check with Mark when he is down there for an update.
572
* Need to incorporate the latest "BCM updates":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/doc-public/ShowDocument?docid=1034 from Dave Mack.
573 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard should look at the luminosity scalar analysis before and after the BCM changes once he gets his script working again.
574 88 Richard Trotta
**  He is checking with Mark about this while he is down in jlab. 
575 1 Richard Trotta
576
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577 86 Richard Trotta
578 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Feb 10, 2020 
579 87 Richard Trotta
580 86 Richard Trotta
----
581 1 Richard Trotta
582 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 22, 2020
583 83 Richard Trotta
584
*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/937/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020_Draft1.pdf
585 85 Richard Trotta
586 1 Richard Trotta
----
587 83 Richard Trotta
588 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 15,2020
589 81 Richard Trotta
590 82 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/936/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020.pdf
591 81 Richard Trotta
592
----
593 78 Richard Trotta
594 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 8,2020
595 78 Richard Trotta
596 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/76
597 79 Richard Trotta
598 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard
599
** PID efficiency script is coming together
600
*** Tighter cuts and cuts on timing, beta, etc. will be needed for cleaner electron cuts
601
*** Hcal cut should be changed to cut around the mean normalized value instead of cutting above or below it only. This will assure electrons aren't lost.
602
603 80 Richard Trotta
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604 113 Richard Trotta
605 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2019 Meetings
606 80 Richard Trotta
607 141 Stephen Kay
----
608
609 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Dec 17,2019
610
611 77 Richard Trotta
Reminder: Mark Jones' commissioning analysis meetings are bi-weekly and announced by Mark
612
613
* Stephen
614
** Number of passes finished for HMS calorimeter
615
*** Still wiggles in all passes
616
** Finished his report on calibrations, "DC and Calorimeters":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/74
617
** Put together a list of people's jobs from Regina over the next couple of months, "Regina Analysis Tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/75
618
*** CUA will be putting together a similar list
619 1 Richard Trotta
620 77 Richard Trotta
* Richard
621
** Fixed one error issue with SHMS calorimeter calibration code (discussed Dec 10th meeting), but still have one error
622
** PID efficiency script plots are complete, but still some questions he needs to work out before a final version
623
*** Eventually need to include tracking into PID efficiencies
624
** Pete brought up the question for a number of multi-hits we are getting
625
*** (Dead Time)+(Trigger efficiency)-EDTM
626
627
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628 72 Richard Trotta
629 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Dec 10,2019
630 72 Richard Trotta
631 74 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/73
632
633
* Garth and Stephen were in the most recent SIDIS meeting
634
** Wit had lots of hcana changes but they seem to be critical to our work 
635
*** Changes such as new detector classes
636 1 Richard Trotta
** Hopefully Wit will present these in the next commissioning meeting
637
638 77 Richard Trotta
* Stephen improved wiggles but still prevalent
639 74 Richard Trotta
640
* Richard finished HGCer calibrations, he concluded that the online parameters are sufficient
641
** He also has been looking at SHMS calorimeter calibrations but has had issues running the scripts. Most likely a pathing issue.
642
** The "tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks page has been updated with a section for efficiencies. 
643
*** A PID efficiency script is currently being developed and hopefully should have some plots for our next meeting.
644
645 75 Richard Trotta
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646 74 Richard Trotta
647 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 26,2019
648 71 Richard Trotta
649
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/480
650
651
* Stephen
652
** DC SHMS, small-angle has poor performance
653
*** Tighter cuts or PID (currently only looks for electrons)
654
** Vardan said calorimeter wiggles are an ongoing issue with no current solution
655
656
* Richard
657 1 Richard Trotta
** The calibrations are nearing completion with only the HG Cherenkov and SHMS calorimeter yet to be finished. There are also smaller issues with some DC and HMS calorimeter runs.
658 71 Richard Trotta
*** Richard will pick up looking at the HGCer calibrations from Vijay's scripts. 
659
*** Richard will also be looking at the SHMS calorimeter and with the suggestion of getting some negatively polarized SHMS runs from Hem.
660
** The HMS Cherenkov is finished with the conclusion that the calibrations from the online runs are good
661
** We can begin looking forward towards efficiencies. 
662
*** Garth suggested that looking at PID may be an advantageous first steps. Precise definitions of these PIDs will need to be logged.
663
*** Clear notes on efficiencies steps will be needed. They will need to be redefined multiple times in multiple ways. 
664
665
* Hem
666
** Has been looking at the calorimeter as well. 
667 70 Richard Trotta
** He has seen the second band in the spectra for some runs, we suggested further looks into HMS hodoscope and subsequently reference times. A recalibration will need to be performed.  
668
669
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670
671 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 19,2019
672 1 Richard Trotta
673 70 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
674
675
* Richard
676
** Finished up TDC cut paper going through the procedure (found "here":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500)
677
** Needed to add Carlos pre-trigger designs to an appendix for the paper which clarifies the introduction section
678
679
* Stephen
680
** Issues with DC calibration for only a few runs during each run period
681
** "wiggles" in HMS calorimeter calibrations for some runs
682
*** few runs where HMS cal totally failed (which was dependent on initial parameters)
683
*** Spring looked worse than the rest (surprisingly), but this may be because online calibration wasn't great
684
685 2 Richard Trotta
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686 68 Richard Trotta
687 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 5,2019
688 68 Richard Trotta
689
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
690
691
* Timing update (Stephen)
692
** Reference times between Richard and Stephen are very similar and the GitHub is updated accordingly
693
** Richard is going to add the trigger time cuts once the fall runs are finished (by end of week)
694
** First pass of detector reference time parameter files finished
695 1 Richard Trotta
696 68 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana code (Richard and Stephen)
697
** Peter's code does not remove ghost bands (already known), but now Stephen is seeing a strang horizontal band for just SHMS hodoscope 2D plots
698
*** Richard has emailed Peter about the issue with no response yet (follow-up soon)
699
** This means we still need the reference time amplitude cut with Peter's code but using just the amplitude cut with Mark's latest version of hcana should be sufficient for calibrations.
700
701
* Calibrations were decided to be done once per shift
702
703
* Next meeting schedule...
704 127 Richard Trotta
** Small meetings Nov 12 and Nov 19 (at 3pm EST) so Richard and Stephen can iron out the timing and calibrations
705
** November 26 (at 3pm EST) will be a larger meeting. 
706 68 Richard Trotta
*** This is the rough deadline we made for finishing up calibrations. 
707
*** This should be sufficient for all detectors (although hodoscope and HG which may persist). The ultimate goal is for all calibrations to be finished up before Winter break!!
708
709
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710
711 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Oct 22,2019
712 62 Richard Trotta
713 64 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
714 62 Richard Trotta
715 65 Richard Trotta
* SHMS Reference Time Amplitude Cuts(Stephen)
716
** Extra peaks in HG from cross-talk and "ghost-bands" due to ADC screw up
717
*** cuts applied on SHMS ADC ref time amplitude (greater than zero) done before any further event selection and histogram filling
718
** This is a temporary fix to "ghost-bands" and cross talk
719
*** Although for HG there is still a small peak. The hodoscope is fine.
720
** The time window is easier to set now.
721
** DC has been fine (since it uses TDC)
722
*** DC calibrations should be good to complete, other detectors need more fixes (i.e. the remaining "ghost-band")
723
** Hodoscope still bad but this might be because of that "ghost-band", needs to be further investigated
724
725 1 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana fixes for reference time (Richard)
726 67 Richard Trotta
** Peter implemented changes to hcana
727
** Two major issues...
728 1 Richard Trotta
## Amplitude goes to null and integral is low or negative which causes a rate-dependent efficiency. 
729 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter has used the average pulse value acquired over a large sample of runs for each detector. 
730 1 Richard Trotta
## Timing offset between EL-REAL and 3/4 is 130 ns which causes junk tracks at high SHMS rates (~6% of the time)
731 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter created a routine to find the best offset by means of matching TDC and ADC
732
** Richard has been checking for bugs in the code. 
733
*** It seems to be ready to implement, Richard emailed Peter for confirmation on the implementation in our group directory
734
735 1 Richard Trotta
* Calibration of HMS detectors when the timing is agreed upon by Stephen and Richard.
736 67 Richard Trotta
** Besides hodoscope which still has an issue with the script
737 65 Richard Trotta
** Stephen and Richard are having a meeting late next week to determine time window values
738 62 Richard Trotta
*** These will be relatively final, but on the wider side if adjustments need to be made in the future
739
740 1 Richard Trotta
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741 61 Richard Trotta
742 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 24,2019
743 61 Richard Trotta
744
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
745 1 Richard Trotta
746 61 Richard Trotta
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747 1 Richard Trotta
748 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 10,2019
749 59 Vijay Kumar
750
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/72 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
751 1 Richard Trotta
752
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753 55 Stephen Kay
754 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 26, 2019
755 55 Stephen Kay
756
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/70 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/71 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
757 1 Richard Trotta
758 54 Richard Trotta
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759
760 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 21, 2019
761 54 Richard Trotta
762 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 
763 54 Richard Trotta
764 42 Stephen Kay
----
765
766 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 14, 2019
767 1 Richard Trotta
768 46 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/64 "Update-Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/65 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/814/Analy_update3.pdf
769 42 Stephen Kay
770
771 35 Stephen Kay
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772 1 Richard Trotta
773 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 4, 2019
774 36 Vijay Kumar
775 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/56 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/57 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/58 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/59 "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/61
776 35 Stephen Kay
777 1 Richard Trotta
778 35 Stephen Kay
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779 1 Richard Trotta
780 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 21, 2019
781 1 Richard Trotta
782
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/52 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/? "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/53 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/54 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/55
783 35 Stephen Kay
784
----
785 1 Richard Trotta
786 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 14, 2019
787 1 Richard Trotta
788 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/48 "Carlos' slides":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/49 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/50 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/51
789 1 Richard Trotta
790 35 Stephen Kay
----
791 1 Richard Trotta
792 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 30, 2019
793 1 Richard Trotta
794
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/45 "Richard's slides in wiki":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_How-To "Brad Computing":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/46 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/47
795 35 Stephen Kay
796 1 Richard Trotta
----
797
798
h3. February 4, 2019
799
800
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/43 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/44
801
802
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803 113 Richard Trotta
804 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2018 Meetings
805 141 Stephen Kay
806
----
807 111 Richard Trotta
808
h3. August 21, 2018
809
810 1 Richard Trotta
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
811 35 Stephen Kay
812 1 Richard Trotta
----
813 35 Stephen Kay
814 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 8, 2018
815 35 Stephen Kay
816
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
817 1 Richard Trotta
818
----
819 35 Stephen Kay
820 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 3, 2018
821 1 Richard Trotta
822 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383
823
*Links to talks->*
824 1 Richard Trotta
825 35 Stephen Kay
----
826 1 Richard Trotta
827 111 Richard Trotta
h3. July 11, 2018
828 1 Richard Trotta
829 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #384
830 1 Richard Trotta
831 35 Stephen Kay
*Action items:*
832 1 Richard Trotta
833 35 Stephen Kay
* Update run plan, e.g. add prescales (Garth)
834
* Check on details of: magnet cycling procedure, minimum angles, MCC fringe field steering, beam energy measurements, optics checks (Tanja)
835
* Identify additional run coordinators (Tanja)
836
* Encourage collaborators to take shifts, e.g. FIU (Pete)
837
* Draft email about shifts etc. to collaboration (Tanja)
838
* Develop diagnostic scripts and kaonLT specific (Richard, Ryan)
839
* Continue documentation development, e.g. checklist, shift taker instructions, HowTo or link to generic Hall C HowTo, task list, web page (Richard, Garth)
840 1 Richard Trotta
841 35 Stephen Kay
*Discussions:*
842
843
* SHMS Aerogel Cherenkov: tray has been changed to SP-11 on 10 July, nominal time for change is 8 hours, one tray can stay in the hall to minimize overhead
844
* HGC: waiting for re-installation
845
* Trigger checkout: main items to keep in mind: fADC thresholds, timing HMS/SHMS - leading arm, possible rate limitations
846 1 Richard Trotta
* Shifts
847
* Diagnostics scripts and documentation
848
* Personnel schedules
849
850
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851
852 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 28, 2018
853 1 Richard Trotta
854
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/34
855
856
*Action Items:*
857
858
* Develop and post shift schedule. Send out request. Find out who is KAONLT liaison (Tanja)
859
* Contact potential run coordinators. (Tanja)
860
* Aerogel tray exchange for start of experiment and coordination of future exchanges (Vladimir)
861
* Update runplan and prepare documents needed for shift crew, e.g. run sheets (Garth)
862
* Set up a web page to collect and link from Redmine - How-To documents, initial calibrations, etc. (Garth, Richard)
863
* Adapt luminosity scan script to calculate kaon yields by run number for use during experiment by shift crew - has to be simple to use. (Richard)
864
* Develop trigger/detector checkout plan (Tanja, initial draft)
865
** Are all experts available at run start, experts needed: coincidence timing , Harp Scans, BCM calibrations, ...
866
* Find out from JLab what the anticipated settings are for limit switches for both spectrometers and for separation angle in between them. Also find out what magnet cycling procedure should be used for L/T quality separation data (Tanja)
867
* Find out if all aerogel trays needed for experiment can be stored inside Hall C to avoid having to open truck ramp (Vladimir)
868
869
*Analysis Updates:*
870
871
* Ryan 
872
** resolving differences between his analysis and Richard's
873
874
* Richard
875
** Discussed with Mark Jones and is cross checking his January luminosity scan analysis against Mark's. Realized that BCM calibrations (gains, offsets etc) are different - currently working on fixing that, presents current results - low curent point is ~10% below unity, discussion that this seems to indicate that BCM offsets are the issue as low current points would be most sensitive, is planning to also double-check the BCM calibration procedure - had discussion with Dave Mack at JLab
876
** Presents a script developed for luminosity scans that determines yields for a run number input on command line. Discussion this could be good to adapt for kaon counting during experiment.
877
878
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879
880 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 31, 2018
881 1 Richard Trotta
882 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
883 1 Richard Trotta
884 35 Stephen Kay
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885 1 Richard Trotta
886 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 17, 2018 
887 1 Richard Trotta
888 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/29, "Ryan":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/DocDB/0009/000968/001/Presentation.pdf, "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
889 2 Richard Trotta
890 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity scans (Richard, Ryan)
891 111 Richard Trotta
** Carbon scan from April seems consistent with no boiling, LH3 and LD2 show deviation from unity, should check effect of EDTM events on efficiencies
892 35 Stephen Kay
** Carbon scans from January (low rates) have large deviations from unity, in particular behavior at higher currents (>40uA), e.g. cpu dead time, that is not yet understood
893
** discussion about pre-scale factors
894 1 Richard Trotta
895 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion about Richard's script extracting and printing information from report files and trees including histograms
896
** Add option for looking at yields with cuts on cointime, target window, and missing mass
897
** Add option to look at real peak vs. background level
898 1 Richard Trotta
899 35 Stephen Kay
* H(e,e'p) kinematics investigation for fall run (Samip)
900
** Optimal range is between electron angles of 17-20 degrees, time required ranges from ~1 hour at 17 degrees to ~3 hour at 20 degrees, other angles may be of interest for disentangling charge and current dependent effects
901 1 Richard Trotta
902 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items*
903
** Luminosity scans at low rates from January (Richard)
904
** Luminosity scans from April with corrected efficiencies, e.d. DT (Ryan)
905
** H(e,e'p) and H(e,e') kinematics for upcoming Kaon LT run (Samip)
906
** Kaon LT detailed run plan (Garth, Pete, Tanja)
907
** Preparations, e.g. report files, diagnostic histograms and real time monitoring, shift worker instructions, optimization of trees (all)
908 1 Richard Trotta
909
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910
911 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 10, 2018
912 35 Stephen Kay
913 2 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hem":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/24, "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/23, "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/26
914 35 Stephen Kay
915
* Luminosity Scans January 2018 (Richard)
916
** Tracking-based analysis for Runs 1415-1423, .. for now focus on HMS, typical HMS S1X rates are <
917
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (Cer, Cal), acceptance (delta)
918
** Efficiency calculation was investigated in detail and applied using scalers from trees
919
** Results for carbon (normalized to 30uA) show large variation - need to understand
920
** *Next steps:*
921
*** Double check calculation of computer lifetime, look for differences in TRIG and PRETRIG scalers
922
*** Check stability of pre-scale (Ryan saw changes within runs)
923
*** Check if detector calibrations for runs are implemented correctly
924
*** Analyze with Ryan's cuts
925 1 Richard Trotta
926 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity Scans April 2018 (Ryan)
927
** Confirms Richard's earlier finding that scaler-based analysis is not reliable and that it's best to analyze event-by-event
928
** Tracking-based analysis for runs 2073-2095
929
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (TOF, Cal, Chi2), acceptance (delta and angles), BCM4a
930
** Included most recent detector calibrations in replay of these runs
931
** Efficiencies from report file mainly, may need to update tracking efficiency implementation
932
** Found that calculations of computer deadtime requires different set of scalers for runs from January to those from April 2018
933
** Results show carbon yields consistent with unity within error (0.5% error bars), and boiling for hydrogen and deuterium
934
** *Next steps:*
935 5 Richard Trotta
*** Check tracking efficiency
936 35 Stephen Kay
937
* *Global comments on Luminosity Scans (so far)*
938 1 Richard Trotta
** April 2018 scans show hydrogen and deuterium target boiling on level of 3-4%, Carbon is consistent with no boiling, as expected - based on description, new targets are expected to have less boiling than those used previously, e.g. in FPI2. Double check this.
939 35 Stephen Kay
** Efficiencies in report files need to be updated, e.g. CPU deadtime (Richard)
940
** Check if BCM4a is the one closest to the target - get a map of the hall (Richard, Ryan)
941
** Uncertainties on current
942
** Detector calibrations
943 1 Richard Trotta
** HMS vs. SHMS
944 35 Stephen Kay
945
* eK+ coincidence time from SIDIS Spring 2018 run (Samip)
946
** Worked with Mark Jones on coincidence time calculation - now available in hcana (see Samip's 10 May 2018 email for more details)
947
** runs used in this analysis: 3423 with Q2=3.1 GeV2 and W=2.78 GeV
948
** Coincidence time spectrum shows peak separations >2 ns corresponding to different accelerator frequency
949
** Missing mass spectra: Kaon peak clearly visible, also see pions even after cuts
950
** Found that pions appear localized in phase space - seems to be due to end point in kinematic phase space
951 1 Richard Trotta
** *Next steps:*
952 2 Richard Trotta
*** Look for a run with kaon momentum closer to 3 GeV/c (aerogel threshold is ~3 GeV/c for kaons for n=1.015)
953 35 Stephen Kay
954
* Yield normalized ratios from SIDIS (Hem)
955
** Yield ratios of data to MC match well in shape, but normalization seems not quite right
956
** *Next steps:*
957 4 Richard Trotta
*** Check if efficiencies, currents, run time etc. are taken into account correctly
958
959
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960 35 Stephen Kay
961 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 26, 2018
962 4 Richard Trotta
963 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard,":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/18 "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/25
964 4 Richard Trotta
965 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (earlier scan) - Richard
966
** Shown is a scaler-based analysis using scalers from report file and from ROOT tree - the values are different, why that is has to be checked
967
** Notes on efficiencies in report file:
968
*** DT (EDTM) is not electronic deadtime. Instead use for now 50ns* trigger rate for HMS and 100ns* trigger rate for SHMS
969
*** Cherenkov efficiency seems low (check if that is due to PID, thresholds, pi/e, etc)
970
*** Tracking efficiency needs to be checked
971
*** 3/4 trigger efficiency seems ok
972
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (later scan) - Ryan
973
** Fewer carbon runs than earlier scan
974
** Shown is a tracking-based analysis using data from the ROOT trees
975 111 Richard Trotta
** First results for carbon, LH3, and LD2, but efficiencies need to be checked
976 35 Stephen Kay
* SIDIS analysis - Hem
977
** Shown is a data/MC comparison for different kinematic settings. Agreement in shape is very good. Normalization has yet to be applied.
978
** Discussion about agreement in z and apparent offset - relation of this offset with spectrometer offset
979
* Analysis of exclusive events in SIDIS - Samip
980
** Shown is a look at the first kaon events in exclusive limit of SIDIS data
981
** Ongoing work on implementing coincidence time into tree
982
* Discussion of run plan, and in particular possible low Q2/low energy
983
** Assume that kaon low Q2=0.4 already included - have kinematics with specified beam energies, if needed
984
** For pion form factor and LT, have two possible settings that can use the prescribed beam energies: Q2=1.45 and 0.35 GeV2 - prioritize towards the higher Q2 as not as sensitive to offsets
985
** Garth will put this together in a draft email
986
987 12 Richard Trotta
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988
989 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 29, 2018
990 12 Richard Trotta
991 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/16 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/27
992 13 Richard Trotta
993 35 Stephen Kay
* Details of adding points to fall run plan - will be ready sooner, likely in week of 4/1 (Garth, Samip, Tanja)
994
* Luminosity scans (Ryan, Andres, Richard, Pete)
995
* Macros, SIDIS analysis (Hem, Anashe)
996
* Elastic data (TBD)
997
998 14 Richard Trotta
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999 18 Richard Trotta
1000 111 Richard Trotta
h3. February 22, 2018
1001 18 Richard Trotta
1002 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Andres":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/19
1003 18 Richard Trotta
1004 35 Stephen Kay
*  Discussion of Andres' slides on elastic W calculation in hcana - initial issue with negative W values seems to be due to outdated information in standard.kinematics file. Additional investigation ongoing.
1005
* Brief description of Samip's work - working on coincidence timing decoding with JLab staff and re-optimization of kinematics
1006
* Discussion of Richard's slides on run plan kinematics and preparations -
1007
** everyone agrees that in general want to have as many L/T cross section separations as possible in a robust run plan balancing statistics vs. systematics
1008
** before actual run may want to do a 3D optimization in all kinematic variables to get the best possible delta(epsilon) for the L/T separations
1009
** for each setting will need 1-2 shifts for calibrations - need to negotiate with other experiments in run group
1010
** kinematics plots W-Q2 show that still need to do some optimization
1011
** run sheets: include raster size, update coincidence count labeling, and carbon target labeling
1012
* Discussion of next meeting. Garth at JLab 8-16 March - might have meeting during that time.
1013 26 Richard Trotta
1014 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items:*
1015
** Post slides/notes from this meeting and procedure to set up hcana in Redmine (Tanja)
1016
** Update run sheet and kinematic optimization for W/Q2 (Garth)
1017
** Circulate elastic calculations for kinematic settings (Samip)
1018
** Continue investigation of elastic data and run plan kinematics (Andres/Richard)
1019
** Test software installation instructions (Pete)
1020
** Draft email to JLab management about need for small angle beam pipe - need to have HMS minimum angle of less than 13 degrees for kaon L/T separations (Tanja) 
1021 32 Stephen Kay
1022
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