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h1. *KaonLT/PionLT Meetings*
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KaonLT/PionLT collaboration analysis meetings. Please add your talk to the meeting ahead of time. Add the newest meeting to the top of the list!
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h2. 2022 Meetings
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h3. Oct 19, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22oct19.txt
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* Richard
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** The trend in the SHMS track yields is still present in the positive polarity luminosity runs.
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** Talk for the Hall C Quarterly meeting was discussed. 
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h3. Oct 12, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22oct12.txt
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h3. Oct 4, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22oct05.txt
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* Richard
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting10_4_22.pdf
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** Fixed some issues with the luminosity scripts with updated replay and analysis script. The biggest issue was the really low beam on times which came from BCM4a being called by accident in some cases instead of BCM1.
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*** It should be noted, there are huge discrepancies between BCM4A and BCM1 in some cases (like 20+ uA).
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** Ran into some issues with the cross-section code. I am in debug mode trying to find the cause.
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** Tanja sent me some awesome fpi2 raster correction documents as well as procedures for verifying the beam and target positions. I am in the process of reading through/beginning these procedures. A Redmine wiki page will be linked when completed.
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h3. Sept 28, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22sep28.txt
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** HMS optics fitting - attachment:HMS_Optics_Calibrations_Update.pdf
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h3. Sept 21, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22sep21.txt
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* Richard
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** attachment:Yield_6p2cl1.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl2.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl1.pdf
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** Lumi SHMS tracking is still showing the trend from 9/8. It was found that the lumi replay script is not updated with many of Ali and Richard's most recent changes. These changes are being applied and a set of new replays will be done.
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** Bill's cross-section code is broken into two major parts. The root analysis part, which takes all the yields, uncertainties, etc., is nearly complete with the connecting ltsep framework script finishing up. The second part, where many of the final plots and cross-sections are done, is a hard-coded mess. Richard is in the process of making this more dynamic. This aspect will take more time but the root analysis part is the bulk of the analysis anyways.
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** attachment:Ali_Sep21_Analysis.pdf
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** Heep Coin analysis for high Q2 KaonLT data (6.2, 8.2, 10.6 GeV beam energy) has now all the efficiencies/live times applied. The results for all 3 beam energies are looking very good. Data/SIMC ratios are agreeing very well (< 3%) and the shapes are matching up nicely. Next step is to finalize offsets for both low and high Q2 KaonLT data. Also proton absorption correction and target boiling needs to be applied.
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h3. Sept 8, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22sep08.txt
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** attachment:Sep8_Analysis.pdf
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** Heep Coin Analysis update. Fixed the issue with emiss and pmiss. Includes number of debug tests.
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** attachment:FullAnalysis_4p9-2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_8p2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_6p2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_3p8-1.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_10p6-1.pdf
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** Full analysis files are the latest data/simc comparison for different beam energies (No offsets applied yet) 
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting9_8_22.pdf
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** attachment:Yield_6p2_l1_all.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6_l1_all.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6_l2_all.pdf
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** Improved total uncertainties
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** In-depth with tracking cut analysis underway
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** Poor TLT consistent with poor CPULTs
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h3. Aug 31, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug31.txt
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting8_31_22.pdf
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** Improvements to luminosity analysis. Things are getting within a few percent. There are still some obvious issues with dependency leaking into the cuts, especially for tracking which is being investigated further.
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** Uncertainties for the luminosities and heep are next up.
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h3. Aug 26, 2022
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* Meeting on L/T-separation procedure
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** Garth's slides attachment:LT_sep_iterations.pdf
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** Bill's tutorial (Nov 2018) attachment:Kaon_LT_tutorial_18nov28.pdf
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** Stephen's notes attachment:LTsep_mtg_22aug26.txt
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** Recording of Sept 27 repeat at: http://lichen.phys.uregina.ca/~huberg/kaon/LT_tutorial_20220927_1920x1080.mp4
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h3. Aug 17, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug17.txt
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* Vijay
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** The summary of the Heepcheck study is attached here. attachment:Vijay_Aug17_2022.pdf 
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** 3.6 and 3.9 GeV data do NOT have the angle offsets. This has been established in the study.
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** I've plotted the offsets vs SHMS central momentum. Plots are attached in the attached pdf file.
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** The 10.6 GeV heep analysis is going well but the broad momentum distributions are making offsets difficult at times.
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** I have decided to give a second pair of eyes to Ali's hcana vs simc calculation investigation. It is concluded that the broad peaks of the hcana are likely caused by the secondary particle calculation which is gathered from the spectrometer track info. 
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** Corrections to the simc pmiss components have been added to the fortran code which corrects for a minus sign that is in hcana but missing from simc.
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** attachment:FullAnalysis_Offset_10p6.pdf
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** attachment:HcanavSimc_scatter_calc.pdf
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h3. Aug 4, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug04.txt
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** The offset HeepCheck study at 3.9, 4.9 (KaonLT), 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 (PionLT) GeV has been completed. attachment:Vijay_HeepCheckStudy.pdf  
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting_8_4_22.pdf
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** HeeP coin for 10p6 setting is looking pretty good. I still need to make some minor adjustments.
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** TLT for Lumi is looking much better. The yields also are looking better but cut adjustments need to be made.
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** HeeP singles have some odd issues that need to be resolved before offset analysis can begin.
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** Hodoscope calibrations are all done except 6p2.
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h3. July 14, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22jul14.txt
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_14_22.pdf
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** The W peaks for SIMC and data are very far offset from one another. This is being investigated.
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* Vijay
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** Heep Data MC comparo w/o offsets attachment:Heep_coin_no_offsets_vijay_22jul08.pdf
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h3. June 28, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22jun28.txt
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** Aerogel XY plots vs NPE to check out the tray location and efficiencies.
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** Hodoscope and calorimeter scripts working. Hodoscope calibration looks good for 10p6 but needs improvement for other beam energies.
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** HGCer efficiency and plots added to efficiency script. Need to discuss with Vijay on specifics of cuts and efficiencies.
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** Started looking in detail at Bill's code. Some scripts and links are missing/broken.
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** EDTM Study Report completed, with newer versions of the TLT equations attachment:EDTM_Study_Report.pdf
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** Graphical Guide for Event Types created to accompany the report, illustrating prescaling with EDTM attachment:Graphical_Guide_Evt_Type.pdf
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** Plan to update report file template with new equations and errors soon
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h3. June 14, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:efficiencies_22jun13.txt
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** Fixed issues with simc script and 10p6 Heepcoin data. Issue with data was an offset of 40ns that was corrected halfway through runs.
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** Aerogel XY plots vs NPE to check out the tray location and efficiencies.
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** Efficiency plots for all production runs.
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_14_22.pdf
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h3. May 31, 2022
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** The updated Heep coin study (Heepcheck program) at 3.9 GeV KaonLT data is attached here attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting_May31_2022.pdf .
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** First look at the HEEP COIN Data/SIMC comparison for the 8.2 GeV Kaon-LT data attachment:KaonLT_May31.pdf
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* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may17.txt attachment:efficiencies_22may25.txt
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** Updated heep coin scripts for the farm. Ali is testing them and should be able to get plots soon.
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** There was a small typo in the simc input file that dramatically changed the shape of the plots. attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_17_22.pdf
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** Updated version of efficiency columns for the script that will grab efficiencies and various other values. attachment:efficiency_output_list.docx
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** The updated heep coin study (some spectrometers offsets changed) at 3.9 GeV KaonLT data is attached here attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting.pdf .
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h3. May 3, 2022
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* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may03.odt  attachment:efficiencies_22may03.odt
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** Fixed all the settings for high Q2 KaonLT data. Also slide on accessing spectrometer angles from CODA
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** attachment:KaonLT_May_3.pdf
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** Analysis of 10.6 GeV heep data. Need to scale data to see how they compare with SIMC for smaller offsets. attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_3_22.pdf
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** The SIMC simulation study of the PinoLT data at Q2 = 0.38 and 0.42 GeV2 has completed (preliminary) for all settings.
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** An output pdf file of the 4.5 GeV, Q2 = 0.42 GeV2 and "center" setting is here attachment:Vijay_analysis_May3_2022.pdf .
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h3. April 19, 2022
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** SIMC simulation updates at Q2 = 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 GeV2. attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_Meeting_Apr19_2022.pdf  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22apr06.txt
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* Ali 
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**  attachment:Analysis_Update_Apr_6.pdf 
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting4_6_22.pdf
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** The analysis of the 10.6 GeV heep coin/singles settings are still ongoing. 
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** There were some issues getting the replays working for the singles runs and the analysis. Things finally were sorted out yesterday (and this morning).
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** The SHMS heep singles are presented. Overall, they look fine. There are still some things to sort out.
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** The HMS heep singles are still running.
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** The simulation study of the 4.9 GeV KaonLT data has completed.
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** This energy has left, center and right settings data. All these settings look fine. 
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** See the pdf for more info. attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_Meeting_Apri_06_2022.pdf  
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h3. March 23, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22mar23.txt
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** 10.6 GeV heep coin was analyzed. Things look pretty good so far, still some work to be done. attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_23_22.pdf
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** Heep singles are next up. There have been issues replaying these runs but Ali may have fixed this issue with his parameter file changes.
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** Did chack of the Mode 10 plots for HGC, was discrepancy between hardware and software caused by the variable phgcer_SampNSAT being 2 by default.
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** after changing back to 1 discrepancy resolved. Slides: attachment:Mode10Update_2022Mar23.pdf
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* Regina March 4 meeting on pion leak through in (e,e'K+) analysis attachment:grp_22mar04.txt
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** Vijay's scripts are working and Richard reproduced some of his previous plots. attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_9_22.pdf
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** The next step is to do a full analysis of the 10.6 GeV heep coin/singles data.
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** Update on the current state of mode 10: attachment:Mode10Update_2022Mar9.pdf 
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** See Mark Jones' slide on changes to hcana: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1424
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h3. February 23, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22feb23.txt
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h3. January 26, 2022  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22jan26.txt
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* Vijay, Heep updates from the PionLT experiment. attachment:Analysis_Updates_Jan26_2022.pdf 
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** HMS single 2.7 GeV, total 6 settings. attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_1.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_2.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_3.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_4.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_5.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_6.pdf   
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** SHMS single 2.7 GeV,total 6 settings. attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_1.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_2.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_3.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_4.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_5.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_6.pdf
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** The 3.6 and 4.5 GeV data do not have elastic data.
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** Coin: 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 GeV. attachment:Analysed_2p7.pdf attachment:Analysed_3p6.pdf attachment:Analysed_4p5.pdf   
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* Nathan, Short update on the Mode 10
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** Short update. May need to update hcana to change software voltage threshold. attachment:2022-01-26NathanHeinrich.pdf
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* Jacob, EDTM Study 2
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** EDTM study with beam, taken during LUMI Scan 3
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** Early look at 3rd EDTM Study
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** Additional notes on increased deadtime in SHMS at High Current. attachment:PionLT_EDTM_Study2_Analysis.pdf
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h3. January 12, 2022  
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** PID study
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** Heep-singles study attachment:Analysis_Updates1_Jan12.pdf 
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** Mode-10 data variables
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h3. January 5, 2022  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22jan05.txt
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** Stephen was updating GitHub but UTIL_BATCH has some permissions issues
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** Update to KLT task schedule
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** Meeting between Richard and Vijay to discuss task breakdown Friday, January 7th at 11 am EST
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** EDTM study 2 will done sometime this weekend
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** Breakdown of HEEP single analysis for low Q2 data
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*** Shapes of SIMC and data are very off
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*** It seems to be a systematic issue on Vijay's part because the same issue is being seen in PLT data
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*** The main issue in my input file was the target thickness, which picked up by Dave in the group meeting. I corrected the target thickness and now it looks ok. See the attached pdf file below.  
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1376
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1375
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** Update on fADC mode 10 studies and the fADC deadtime studies
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** Summary of EDTM analysis so far in the PionLT experiment
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1373
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h3. August 4, 2021
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** Update on the HEEP singles. The remainder of energy setting ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1% and < 0.5% uncertainty).
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** Issues with the COIN are seen but may be a replay issue.
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h3. July 21, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1250/KaonLTMeeting7_14_21.pdf
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** Update on the HEEP singles. 10.6 GeV ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1%) but proper error bars are needed.
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h3. May 12, 2021
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** The currents were adjusted from 1-10 uA with little effect on the EDMTLT but proper changes to the CPULT. The replay bcm cut script developed by Sanghwa was also analyzed to see if it may be causing the issue but it had the same effects. There was also a small error in the code found where T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTimeRaw was incorrectly written as T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTime.
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h3. April 28, 2021
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** Lumi table was created for 2 sets of runs. Odd behavior seen ~30-45 uA with EDTM where is drops. Playing with the current cuts is the next step.
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h3. April 14, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_4_14_21.pdf
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** Updated Lumi carbon plots with uncertainties. PID and current cuts need to be played around with a bit to see if they improve things (as uncertainties don't explain any boiling-type behaviors). 
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** Some PionLT carbon runs were looked at but there are still some issues (either cut or pathing related).
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h3. March 31, 2021
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** Luminosity studies
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**** Still having issues getting decent results. I think I am just missing a definition somewhere that I need to track down
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*** Uncertainties
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**** Easy to do, I just need to put it into my script
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** Explicit PS calculations
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*** I have gotten a rough script working for very simple runs (ie low rate, single spectrometer, calibration runs)
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*** I am trying to expand to lumi singles runs, things get a bit more complex so I am just working out the trigger correlations
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** Pass 2 runs
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*** DEF-files
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**** I checked out the DEF-files for our combination of the nested files
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**** There are a lot a files (~150!!!!) and may be hard to track so next week *we should make a flowchart together*
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***** Mainly just working on my list of branches for the explicit PS calculations
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***** *Everyone should have a list of these branches by next mini-meeting (4/7/21)*
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** Updated DEF-File for the "full" replay
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*** Can't remove NData brances, Mark says they won't take up too many resources anyway
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*** Removed individual PMT info and raw info for many detectors, reduced file size by factor ~2
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** Updating DEF-files/scripts for calibrations as part of PionLT prep
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** Will focus on DEF-file/DEF-cut file updates over next week
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h3. March 24, 2021
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* "Task summary from Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Replay_2_Tasks
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h3. March 17, 2021
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** I have re-run the carbon lumi runs with the changes to the replay events (i.e. All_events_NO_EDTM). The results look pretty good (within a few percent). There are still some trends I need to investigate for certain runs and I need to do the analysis for the pionLT carbon lumi data.
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* Mini meeting March 24th @ 4:30 EDT
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h3. March 3, 2021
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** I found an issue with the replay scripts used where the EDTM was not being properly registered. There is a discrepancy between two replay scripts depending on what the Decode_master is set to (i.e. ALL_events vs ALL_events_NO_EDTM). 
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** The explicit calculation of the prescale has hit a snag because of the differences between 6 GeV and 12 GeV. I contacted Mark Jones, who explained there are significant differences in the ADC gate between the two eras (which my own findings confirmed). I have contacted Brad for further input.
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h3. February 17, 2021
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** Tried to remove some cumbersome elements to the analysis scripts without success. A few runs were added to a well behaved set of lumi runs with good consistency.
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** Presented an update on the Hodoscope Calibrations: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1196/HodoscopeUpdate_2021Feb17.pdf
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h3. February 3, 2021
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** A table with the aerogel efficiency for kaons is being created. It will be expanded to other particles and detectors.
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h3. January 20, 2021
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** All KaonLT carbon runs have been analyzed. There are still some issues that seem to be related to the pre-scale values. I may need to investigate the EDTM and/or the COIN events further to correct for these.
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h3. January 6, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1153/KaonLTMeeting1_6_21.pdf
431 322 Richard Trotta
** Analyzed most of the luminosity scans. There are a few issues I am investigating still which seem to be run related. 
432 186 Richard Trotta
433
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434
435
h2. 2020 Meetings
436
437 185 Richard Trotta
h3. December 2, 2020
438
 
439
* Ali and Richard
440
** Richard included the EDTM to Lumi analysis and found some old analysis of scalers by Mark Jones that he will compare. Ali and Richard met last week and will begin combining Ali's tracking studies with Richard's lumi analysis.
441
442
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443
444 180 Richard Trotta
h3. November 18, 2020
445
446 183 Richard Trotta
* "Carlos":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1103/LiveTime_Study_cyero.pdf
447 181 Richard Trotta
** He is investigating some of the EDTM rate dependence and sees a discrepancy between the total EDTM LT and CPU LT with a sudden dip at 20-30 kHz. More luminosity runs will need to be studied for a full conclusion.
448 180 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1101/KaonLTMeeting11_18_20.pdf
449
** Scaler analysis matches Carlos' code now. Overall significant improvements were made through some cut adjustments and incorrect variable definitions.
450
* Stephen
451 182 Richard Trotta
** Updated the hallc_replay_lt with parameter files for all coin peaks.
452 180 Richard Trotta
453
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454
455 178 Richard Trotta
h3. November 4, 2020
456 321 Richard Trotta
 
457 178 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1092/KaonLTMeeting11_4_20.pdf
458 321 Richard Trotta
** Scaler analysis is getting closer to an answer. An in-depth comparison of Carlos and Richard's analysis shows inconsistencies between the two. 
459 178 Richard Trotta
460 141 Stephen Kay
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461
462 170 Richard Trotta
h3. October 28, 2020
463
464
* Ali
465 177 Richard Trotta
** Went over some of his tracking procedures for the report file implementation
466 172 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1091/KaonLTMeeting10_28_20.pdf
467 173 Richard Trotta
** Luminosity analysis continues. There are still some issues but things have improved a bit.
468 171 Stephen Kay
* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1090/KaonLT_Meeting_28_10_20.pdf
469
** Discussion of CT peak analysis, progress and outline of what's left to do with this
470 174 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
471 176 Richard Trotta
** Dry run for Mark's hallc meeting tomorrow (10/29)
472 170 Richard Trotta
473
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474
475 164 Richard Trotta
h3. October 14, 2020
476
477 168 Richard Trotta
* Ali
478 164 Richard Trotta
** Working through the REPORT_FILES template to get everything working and outputting proper information.
479
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1085/KaonLTMeeting_10_14_20.pdf
480
** Updates on lumi scans. There are many issues from Scalers to Tracking that need to be resolved.
481 167 Richard Trotta
* Stephen
482 164 Richard Trotta
** He has included a demo for using the python analysis script in the README.
483 1 Richard Trotta
484 164 Richard Trotta
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485
486 161 Richard Trotta
h3. September 23, 2020
487
488
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1078/KaonLTMeeting_9_23_20.pdf
489
** A quick lumi analysis after the Pass1 runs. The results were compared to previously analyzed runs (5154-5158). There was some change but nothing huge. Some other runs with the same energy settings were analyzed as well. 
490
* Stephen
491 162 Richard Trotta
** Showed some slides from u-channel meeting of omega and proton MM  plots. Then discussed some ideas for dealing with the hole in the HGCer.
492
* Petr
493
** Data fitting algorithm based on E.H. Bellamy paper. Extracts PMT spectra from ROOT file and makes a 1D projection histogram.
494 161 Richard Trotta
495
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496
497 149 Richard Trotta
h3. September 9, 2020
498 156 Richard Trotta
499
* Richard
500 157 Richard Trotta
** Still working on run list, GUI checks
501 156 Richard Trotta
* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/567
502
** New slim replay scripts and full replay scripts updated
503
* Ali
504
** Him and Stephen found an issue (already aware of) with zeros in the parameter files using Mark's hcana changes
505
** Need to be vigilant of crashed replays because this is probably the issue
506 158 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
507 156 Richard Trotta
** Nearly finished with HGcer calibrations
508 1 Richard Trotta
509 156 Richard Trotta
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510
511
h3. August 26, 2020
512
513 149 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/483 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/479
514 154 Richard Trotta
515
* Richard
516
** New tasks were created based on the previous discussions on objectives going forward. In the process of checking run sheets against the run list and camera/EPICS.
517
* Stephen
518
** Updated on RF times. There were a few issues with some runs, but overall most are finished.
519
* Ali
520
** Hodoscope calibrations look similar to before. There is still the issue of the double bands in the time walk. This is ok because of the wide windows we still have. (See "hodoscope calibration section":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks#Calibrations-Mid-to-Late-August-2020)
521
* Vijay
522 150 Richard Trotta
** Updated the SHMS HGCher analysis. The calibrations are coming along, but a little more work needs to be finished up.
523 1 Richard Trotta
524 149 Richard Trotta
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525
526 144 Richard Trotta
h3. July 29, 2020
527 147 Stephen Kay
528 148 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1029/klt_7_29_20.html "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/106
529 146 Stephen Kay
530 155 Richard Trotta
* Stephen
531
** Updates on scripts to set pedestal defaults and AdcTdc offsets after hcana change
532
* Richard
533
** Updated plan and schedule for the analysis going forward
534 1 Richard Trotta
535 144 Richard Trotta
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536
537 139 Richard Trotta
h3. July 8, 2020
538 1 Richard Trotta
539 139 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1023/SHMS%20Proton%20Absorption.ods "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1022/KaonLT_Meeting_Jul_8.pdf
540 150 Richard Trotta
541 139 Richard Trotta
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542
543 132 Richard Trotta
h3. June 24, 2020
544
545 143 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1014/Vijay_24_June_20.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1013/KaonLTMeeting_6_24_20.pdf
546 132 Richard Trotta
547
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548
549 129 Richard Trotta
h3. June 9, 2020
550
551 135 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1006/Vijay_9_June_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1007/KaonLT_Meeting_Jun_9.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1005/KaonLTMeeting_6_9_20.pdf
552 129 Richard Trotta
553
----
554
555 125 Richard Trotta
h3. May 27, 2020
556
557 126 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1002/Vijay_26_May_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1003/KaonLT_Meeting_May_27%20%5BAutosaved%5D.pdf
558 128 Richard Trotta
559 125 Richard Trotta
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560
561 118 Stephen Kay
h3. May 13, 2020
562 124 Richard Trotta
563 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/993/KaonLT_Meeting_13_05_20.pdf - Python analysis scripts "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/998/KaonLTMeeting_5_13_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/997/KaonLT_Meeting_May_13.pdf "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/999/Vijay_13_May_20.pdf
564 1 Richard Trotta
565 121 Richard Trotta
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566
567 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 29, 2020
568
569 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/984/KaonLTMeeting_4_29_20.pdf "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/985/KaonLT_Meeting_29_04_20.pdf - Python code planning "Mark's hcana tracking update":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/982/Updates-to-HCANA-tracking.pdf
570 106 Richard Trotta
571 1 Richard Trotta
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572 106 Richard Trotta
573 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 15, 2020
574 104 Richard Trotta
575 102 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/977/KaonLTMeeting_4_15_20.pdf
576 105 Richard Trotta
577 102 Richard Trotta
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578 95 Stephen Kay
579 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 1, 2020
580 100 Stephen Kay
581 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/949/KaonLT_Meeting_01_04_20.pdf - RF timing "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/948/KaonLTMeeting_4_1_20.pdf
582 101 Richard Trotta
583 41 Stephen Kay
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584 93 Richard Trotta
585 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 18, 2020
586 93 Richard Trotta
587
*Links to talks->* "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/942/DRAFT2_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
588 1 Richard Trotta
589 93 Richard Trotta
----
590 91 Richard Trotta
591 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 11, 2020
592 92 Richard Trotta
593 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/940/KaonLT_Meeting_Mar_11.pdf "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/941/DRAFT1_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
594 94 Richard Trotta
595 91 Richard Trotta
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596 88 Richard Trotta
597 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Feb 26, 2020
598 90 Richard Trotta
599
* Peter's changes to hcana should be coming soon. Richard will check with Mark when he is down there for an update.
600
* Need to incorporate the latest "BCM updates":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/doc-public/ShowDocument?docid=1034 from Dave Mack.
601 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard should look at the luminosity scalar analysis before and after the BCM changes once he gets his script working again.
602 88 Richard Trotta
**  He is checking with Mark about this while he is down in jlab. 
603 1 Richard Trotta
604
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605 86 Richard Trotta
606 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Feb 10, 2020 
607 87 Richard Trotta
608 86 Richard Trotta
----
609 1 Richard Trotta
610 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 22, 2020
611 83 Richard Trotta
612
*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/937/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020_Draft1.pdf
613 85 Richard Trotta
614 1 Richard Trotta
----
615 83 Richard Trotta
616 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 15,2020
617 81 Richard Trotta
618 82 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/936/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020.pdf
619 81 Richard Trotta
620
----
621 78 Richard Trotta
622 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 8,2020
623 78 Richard Trotta
624 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/76
625 79 Richard Trotta
626 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard
627
** PID efficiency script is coming together
628
*** Tighter cuts and cuts on timing, beta, etc. will be needed for cleaner electron cuts
629
*** Hcal cut should be changed to cut around the mean normalized value instead of cutting above or below it only. This will assure electrons aren't lost.
630
631 80 Richard Trotta
----
632 113 Richard Trotta
633 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2019 Meetings
634 80 Richard Trotta
635 141 Stephen Kay
----
636
637 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Dec 17,2019
638
639 77 Richard Trotta
Reminder: Mark Jones' commissioning analysis meetings are bi-weekly and announced by Mark
640
641
* Stephen
642
** Number of passes finished for HMS calorimeter
643
*** Still wiggles in all passes
644
** Finished his report on calibrations, "DC and Calorimeters":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/74
645
** Put together a list of people's jobs from Regina over the next couple of months, "Regina Analysis Tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/75
646
*** CUA will be putting together a similar list
647 1 Richard Trotta
648 77 Richard Trotta
* Richard
649
** Fixed one error issue with SHMS calorimeter calibration code (discussed Dec 10th meeting), but still have one error
650
** PID efficiency script plots are complete, but still some questions he needs to work out before a final version
651
*** Eventually need to include tracking into PID efficiencies
652
** Pete brought up the question for a number of multi-hits we are getting
653
*** (Dead Time)+(Trigger efficiency)-EDTM
654
655
----
656 72 Richard Trotta
657 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Dec 10,2019
658 72 Richard Trotta
659 74 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/73
660
661
* Garth and Stephen were in the most recent SIDIS meeting
662
** Wit had lots of hcana changes but they seem to be critical to our work 
663
*** Changes such as new detector classes
664 1 Richard Trotta
** Hopefully Wit will present these in the next commissioning meeting
665
666 77 Richard Trotta
* Stephen improved wiggles but still prevalent
667 74 Richard Trotta
668
* Richard finished HGCer calibrations, he concluded that the online parameters are sufficient
669
** He also has been looking at SHMS calorimeter calibrations but has had issues running the scripts. Most likely a pathing issue.
670
** The "tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks page has been updated with a section for efficiencies. 
671
*** A PID efficiency script is currently being developed and hopefully should have some plots for our next meeting.
672
673 75 Richard Trotta
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674 74 Richard Trotta
675 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 26,2019
676 71 Richard Trotta
677
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/480
678
679
* Stephen
680
** DC SHMS, small-angle has poor performance
681
*** Tighter cuts or PID (currently only looks for electrons)
682
** Vardan said calorimeter wiggles are an ongoing issue with no current solution
683
684
* Richard
685 1 Richard Trotta
** The calibrations are nearing completion with only the HG Cherenkov and SHMS calorimeter yet to be finished. There are also smaller issues with some DC and HMS calorimeter runs.
686 71 Richard Trotta
*** Richard will pick up looking at the HGCer calibrations from Vijay's scripts. 
687
*** Richard will also be looking at the SHMS calorimeter and with the suggestion of getting some negatively polarized SHMS runs from Hem.
688
** The HMS Cherenkov is finished with the conclusion that the calibrations from the online runs are good
689
** We can begin looking forward towards efficiencies. 
690
*** Garth suggested that looking at PID may be an advantageous first steps. Precise definitions of these PIDs will need to be logged.
691
*** Clear notes on efficiencies steps will be needed. They will need to be redefined multiple times in multiple ways. 
692
693
* Hem
694
** Has been looking at the calorimeter as well. 
695 70 Richard Trotta
** He has seen the second band in the spectra for some runs, we suggested further looks into HMS hodoscope and subsequently reference times. A recalibration will need to be performed.  
696
697
----
698
699 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 19,2019
700 1 Richard Trotta
701 70 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
702
703
* Richard
704
** Finished up TDC cut paper going through the procedure (found "here":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500)
705
** Needed to add Carlos pre-trigger designs to an appendix for the paper which clarifies the introduction section
706
707
* Stephen
708
** Issues with DC calibration for only a few runs during each run period
709
** "wiggles" in HMS calorimeter calibrations for some runs
710
*** few runs where HMS cal totally failed (which was dependent on initial parameters)
711
*** Spring looked worse than the rest (surprisingly), but this may be because online calibration wasn't great
712
713 2 Richard Trotta
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714 68 Richard Trotta
715 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 5,2019
716 68 Richard Trotta
717
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
718
719
* Timing update (Stephen)
720
** Reference times between Richard and Stephen are very similar and the GitHub is updated accordingly
721
** Richard is going to add the trigger time cuts once the fall runs are finished (by end of week)
722
** First pass of detector reference time parameter files finished
723 1 Richard Trotta
724 68 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana code (Richard and Stephen)
725
** Peter's code does not remove ghost bands (already known), but now Stephen is seeing a strang horizontal band for just SHMS hodoscope 2D plots
726
*** Richard has emailed Peter about the issue with no response yet (follow-up soon)
727
** This means we still need the reference time amplitude cut with Peter's code but using just the amplitude cut with Mark's latest version of hcana should be sufficient for calibrations.
728
729
* Calibrations were decided to be done once per shift
730
731
* Next meeting schedule...
732 127 Richard Trotta
** Small meetings Nov 12 and Nov 19 (at 3pm EST) so Richard and Stephen can iron out the timing and calibrations
733
** November 26 (at 3pm EST) will be a larger meeting. 
734 68 Richard Trotta
*** This is the rough deadline we made for finishing up calibrations. 
735
*** This should be sufficient for all detectors (although hodoscope and HG which may persist). The ultimate goal is for all calibrations to be finished up before Winter break!!
736
737
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738
739 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Oct 22,2019
740 62 Richard Trotta
741 64 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
742 62 Richard Trotta
743 65 Richard Trotta
* SHMS Reference Time Amplitude Cuts(Stephen)
744
** Extra peaks in HG from cross-talk and "ghost-bands" due to ADC screw up
745
*** cuts applied on SHMS ADC ref time amplitude (greater than zero) done before any further event selection and histogram filling
746
** This is a temporary fix to "ghost-bands" and cross talk
747
*** Although for HG there is still a small peak. The hodoscope is fine.
748
** The time window is easier to set now.
749
** DC has been fine (since it uses TDC)
750
*** DC calibrations should be good to complete, other detectors need more fixes (i.e. the remaining "ghost-band")
751
** Hodoscope still bad but this might be because of that "ghost-band", needs to be further investigated
752
753 1 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana fixes for reference time (Richard)
754 67 Richard Trotta
** Peter implemented changes to hcana
755
** Two major issues...
756 1 Richard Trotta
## Amplitude goes to null and integral is low or negative which causes a rate-dependent efficiency. 
757 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter has used the average pulse value acquired over a large sample of runs for each detector. 
758 1 Richard Trotta
## Timing offset between EL-REAL and 3/4 is 130 ns which causes junk tracks at high SHMS rates (~6% of the time)
759 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter created a routine to find the best offset by means of matching TDC and ADC
760
** Richard has been checking for bugs in the code. 
761
*** It seems to be ready to implement, Richard emailed Peter for confirmation on the implementation in our group directory
762
763 1 Richard Trotta
* Calibration of HMS detectors when the timing is agreed upon by Stephen and Richard.
764 67 Richard Trotta
** Besides hodoscope which still has an issue with the script
765 65 Richard Trotta
** Stephen and Richard are having a meeting late next week to determine time window values
766 62 Richard Trotta
*** These will be relatively final, but on the wider side if adjustments need to be made in the future
767
768 1 Richard Trotta
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769 61 Richard Trotta
770 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 24,2019
771 61 Richard Trotta
772
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
773 1 Richard Trotta
774 61 Richard Trotta
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775 1 Richard Trotta
776 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 10,2019
777 59 Vijay Kumar
778
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/72 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
779 1 Richard Trotta
780
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781 55 Stephen Kay
782 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 26, 2019
783 55 Stephen Kay
784
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/70 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/71 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
785 1 Richard Trotta
786 54 Richard Trotta
----
787
788 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 21, 2019
789 54 Richard Trotta
790 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 
791 54 Richard Trotta
792 42 Stephen Kay
----
793
794 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 14, 2019
795 1 Richard Trotta
796 46 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/64 "Update-Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/65 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/814/Analy_update3.pdf
797 42 Stephen Kay
798
799 35 Stephen Kay
----
800 1 Richard Trotta
801 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 4, 2019
802 36 Vijay Kumar
803 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/56 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/57 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/58 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/59 "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/61
804 35 Stephen Kay
805 1 Richard Trotta
806 35 Stephen Kay
----
807 1 Richard Trotta
808 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 21, 2019
809 1 Richard Trotta
810
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/52 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/? "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/53 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/54 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/55
811 35 Stephen Kay
812
----
813 1 Richard Trotta
814 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 14, 2019
815 1 Richard Trotta
816 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/48 "Carlos' slides":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/49 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/50 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/51
817 1 Richard Trotta
818 35 Stephen Kay
----
819 1 Richard Trotta
820 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 30, 2019
821 1 Richard Trotta
822
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/45 "Richard's slides in wiki":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_How-To "Brad Computing":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/46 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/47
823 35 Stephen Kay
824 1 Richard Trotta
----
825
826
h3. February 4, 2019
827
828
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/43 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/44
829
830
----
831 113 Richard Trotta
832 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2018 Meetings
833 141 Stephen Kay
834
----
835 111 Richard Trotta
836
h3. August 21, 2018
837
838 1 Richard Trotta
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
839 35 Stephen Kay
840 1 Richard Trotta
----
841 35 Stephen Kay
842 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 8, 2018
843 35 Stephen Kay
844
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
845 1 Richard Trotta
846
----
847 35 Stephen Kay
848 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 3, 2018
849 1 Richard Trotta
850 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383
851
*Links to talks->*
852 1 Richard Trotta
853 35 Stephen Kay
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854 1 Richard Trotta
855 111 Richard Trotta
h3. July 11, 2018
856 1 Richard Trotta
857 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #384
858 1 Richard Trotta
859 35 Stephen Kay
*Action items:*
860 1 Richard Trotta
861 35 Stephen Kay
* Update run plan, e.g. add prescales (Garth)
862
* Check on details of: magnet cycling procedure, minimum angles, MCC fringe field steering, beam energy measurements, optics checks (Tanja)
863
* Identify additional run coordinators (Tanja)
864
* Encourage collaborators to take shifts, e.g. FIU (Pete)
865
* Draft email about shifts etc. to collaboration (Tanja)
866
* Develop diagnostic scripts and kaonLT specific (Richard, Ryan)
867
* Continue documentation development, e.g. checklist, shift taker instructions, HowTo or link to generic Hall C HowTo, task list, web page (Richard, Garth)
868 1 Richard Trotta
869 35 Stephen Kay
*Discussions:*
870
871
* SHMS Aerogel Cherenkov: tray has been changed to SP-11 on 10 July, nominal time for change is 8 hours, one tray can stay in the hall to minimize overhead
872
* HGC: waiting for re-installation
873
* Trigger checkout: main items to keep in mind: fADC thresholds, timing HMS/SHMS - leading arm, possible rate limitations
874 1 Richard Trotta
* Shifts
875
* Diagnostics scripts and documentation
876
* Personnel schedules
877
878
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879
880 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 28, 2018
881 1 Richard Trotta
882
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/34
883
884
*Action Items:*
885
886
* Develop and post shift schedule. Send out request. Find out who is KAONLT liaison (Tanja)
887
* Contact potential run coordinators. (Tanja)
888
* Aerogel tray exchange for start of experiment and coordination of future exchanges (Vladimir)
889
* Update runplan and prepare documents needed for shift crew, e.g. run sheets (Garth)
890
* Set up a web page to collect and link from Redmine - How-To documents, initial calibrations, etc. (Garth, Richard)
891
* Adapt luminosity scan script to calculate kaon yields by run number for use during experiment by shift crew - has to be simple to use. (Richard)
892
* Develop trigger/detector checkout plan (Tanja, initial draft)
893
** Are all experts available at run start, experts needed: coincidence timing , Harp Scans, BCM calibrations, ...
894
* Find out from JLab what the anticipated settings are for limit switches for both spectrometers and for separation angle in between them. Also find out what magnet cycling procedure should be used for L/T quality separation data (Tanja)
895
* Find out if all aerogel trays needed for experiment can be stored inside Hall C to avoid having to open truck ramp (Vladimir)
896
897
*Analysis Updates:*
898
899
* Ryan 
900
** resolving differences between his analysis and Richard's
901
902
* Richard
903
** Discussed with Mark Jones and is cross checking his January luminosity scan analysis against Mark's. Realized that BCM calibrations (gains, offsets etc) are different - currently working on fixing that, presents current results - low curent point is ~10% below unity, discussion that this seems to indicate that BCM offsets are the issue as low current points would be most sensitive, is planning to also double-check the BCM calibration procedure - had discussion with Dave Mack at JLab
904
** Presents a script developed for luminosity scans that determines yields for a run number input on command line. Discussion this could be good to adapt for kaon counting during experiment.
905
906
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907
908 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 31, 2018
909 1 Richard Trotta
910 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
911 1 Richard Trotta
912 35 Stephen Kay
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913 1 Richard Trotta
914 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 17, 2018 
915 1 Richard Trotta
916 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/29, "Ryan":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/DocDB/0009/000968/001/Presentation.pdf, "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
917 2 Richard Trotta
918 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity scans (Richard, Ryan)
919 111 Richard Trotta
** Carbon scan from April seems consistent with no boiling, LH3 and LD2 show deviation from unity, should check effect of EDTM events on efficiencies
920 35 Stephen Kay
** Carbon scans from January (low rates) have large deviations from unity, in particular behavior at higher currents (>40uA), e.g. cpu dead time, that is not yet understood
921
** discussion about pre-scale factors
922 1 Richard Trotta
923 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion about Richard's script extracting and printing information from report files and trees including histograms
924
** Add option for looking at yields with cuts on cointime, target window, and missing mass
925
** Add option to look at real peak vs. background level
926 1 Richard Trotta
927 35 Stephen Kay
* H(e,e'p) kinematics investigation for fall run (Samip)
928
** Optimal range is between electron angles of 17-20 degrees, time required ranges from ~1 hour at 17 degrees to ~3 hour at 20 degrees, other angles may be of interest for disentangling charge and current dependent effects
929 1 Richard Trotta
930 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items*
931
** Luminosity scans at low rates from January (Richard)
932
** Luminosity scans from April with corrected efficiencies, e.d. DT (Ryan)
933
** H(e,e'p) and H(e,e') kinematics for upcoming Kaon LT run (Samip)
934
** Kaon LT detailed run plan (Garth, Pete, Tanja)
935
** Preparations, e.g. report files, diagnostic histograms and real time monitoring, shift worker instructions, optimization of trees (all)
936 1 Richard Trotta
937
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938
939 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 10, 2018
940 35 Stephen Kay
941 2 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hem":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/24, "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/23, "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/26
942 35 Stephen Kay
943
* Luminosity Scans January 2018 (Richard)
944
** Tracking-based analysis for Runs 1415-1423, .. for now focus on HMS, typical HMS S1X rates are <
945
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (Cer, Cal), acceptance (delta)
946
** Efficiency calculation was investigated in detail and applied using scalers from trees
947
** Results for carbon (normalized to 30uA) show large variation - need to understand
948
** *Next steps:*
949
*** Double check calculation of computer lifetime, look for differences in TRIG and PRETRIG scalers
950
*** Check stability of pre-scale (Ryan saw changes within runs)
951
*** Check if detector calibrations for runs are implemented correctly
952
*** Analyze with Ryan's cuts
953 1 Richard Trotta
954 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity Scans April 2018 (Ryan)
955
** Confirms Richard's earlier finding that scaler-based analysis is not reliable and that it's best to analyze event-by-event
956
** Tracking-based analysis for runs 2073-2095
957
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (TOF, Cal, Chi2), acceptance (delta and angles), BCM4a
958
** Included most recent detector calibrations in replay of these runs
959
** Efficiencies from report file mainly, may need to update tracking efficiency implementation
960
** Found that calculations of computer deadtime requires different set of scalers for runs from January to those from April 2018
961
** Results show carbon yields consistent with unity within error (0.5% error bars), and boiling for hydrogen and deuterium
962
** *Next steps:*
963 5 Richard Trotta
*** Check tracking efficiency
964 35 Stephen Kay
965
* *Global comments on Luminosity Scans (so far)*
966 1 Richard Trotta
** April 2018 scans show hydrogen and deuterium target boiling on level of 3-4%, Carbon is consistent with no boiling, as expected - based on description, new targets are expected to have less boiling than those used previously, e.g. in FPI2. Double check this.
967 35 Stephen Kay
** Efficiencies in report files need to be updated, e.g. CPU deadtime (Richard)
968
** Check if BCM4a is the one closest to the target - get a map of the hall (Richard, Ryan)
969
** Uncertainties on current
970
** Detector calibrations
971 1 Richard Trotta
** HMS vs. SHMS
972 35 Stephen Kay
973
* eK+ coincidence time from SIDIS Spring 2018 run (Samip)
974
** Worked with Mark Jones on coincidence time calculation - now available in hcana (see Samip's 10 May 2018 email for more details)
975
** runs used in this analysis: 3423 with Q2=3.1 GeV2 and W=2.78 GeV
976
** Coincidence time spectrum shows peak separations >2 ns corresponding to different accelerator frequency
977
** Missing mass spectra: Kaon peak clearly visible, also see pions even after cuts
978
** Found that pions appear localized in phase space - seems to be due to end point in kinematic phase space
979 1 Richard Trotta
** *Next steps:*
980 2 Richard Trotta
*** Look for a run with kaon momentum closer to 3 GeV/c (aerogel threshold is ~3 GeV/c for kaons for n=1.015)
981 35 Stephen Kay
982
* Yield normalized ratios from SIDIS (Hem)
983
** Yield ratios of data to MC match well in shape, but normalization seems not quite right
984
** *Next steps:*
985 4 Richard Trotta
*** Check if efficiencies, currents, run time etc. are taken into account correctly
986
987
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988 35 Stephen Kay
989 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 26, 2018
990 4 Richard Trotta
991 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard,":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/18 "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/25
992 4 Richard Trotta
993 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (earlier scan) - Richard
994
** Shown is a scaler-based analysis using scalers from report file and from ROOT tree - the values are different, why that is has to be checked
995
** Notes on efficiencies in report file:
996
*** DT (EDTM) is not electronic deadtime. Instead use for now 50ns* trigger rate for HMS and 100ns* trigger rate for SHMS
997
*** Cherenkov efficiency seems low (check if that is due to PID, thresholds, pi/e, etc)
998
*** Tracking efficiency needs to be checked
999
*** 3/4 trigger efficiency seems ok
1000
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (later scan) - Ryan
1001
** Fewer carbon runs than earlier scan
1002
** Shown is a tracking-based analysis using data from the ROOT trees
1003 111 Richard Trotta
** First results for carbon, LH3, and LD2, but efficiencies need to be checked
1004 35 Stephen Kay
* SIDIS analysis - Hem
1005
** Shown is a data/MC comparison for different kinematic settings. Agreement in shape is very good. Normalization has yet to be applied.
1006
** Discussion about agreement in z and apparent offset - relation of this offset with spectrometer offset
1007
* Analysis of exclusive events in SIDIS - Samip
1008
** Shown is a look at the first kaon events in exclusive limit of SIDIS data
1009
** Ongoing work on implementing coincidence time into tree
1010
* Discussion of run plan, and in particular possible low Q2/low energy
1011
** Assume that kaon low Q2=0.4 already included - have kinematics with specified beam energies, if needed
1012
** For pion form factor and LT, have two possible settings that can use the prescribed beam energies: Q2=1.45 and 0.35 GeV2 - prioritize towards the higher Q2 as not as sensitive to offsets
1013
** Garth will put this together in a draft email
1014
1015 12 Richard Trotta
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1016
1017 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 29, 2018
1018 12 Richard Trotta
1019 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/16 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/27
1020 13 Richard Trotta
1021 35 Stephen Kay
* Details of adding points to fall run plan - will be ready sooner, likely in week of 4/1 (Garth, Samip, Tanja)
1022
* Luminosity scans (Ryan, Andres, Richard, Pete)
1023
* Macros, SIDIS analysis (Hem, Anashe)
1024
* Elastic data (TBD)
1025
1026 14 Richard Trotta
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1027 18 Richard Trotta
1028 111 Richard Trotta
h3. February 22, 2018
1029 18 Richard Trotta
1030 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Andres":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/19
1031 18 Richard Trotta
1032 35 Stephen Kay
*  Discussion of Andres' slides on elastic W calculation in hcana - initial issue with negative W values seems to be due to outdated information in standard.kinematics file. Additional investigation ongoing.
1033
* Brief description of Samip's work - working on coincidence timing decoding with JLab staff and re-optimization of kinematics
1034
* Discussion of Richard's slides on run plan kinematics and preparations -
1035
** everyone agrees that in general want to have as many L/T cross section separations as possible in a robust run plan balancing statistics vs. systematics
1036
** before actual run may want to do a 3D optimization in all kinematic variables to get the best possible delta(epsilon) for the L/T separations
1037
** for each setting will need 1-2 shifts for calibrations - need to negotiate with other experiments in run group
1038
** kinematics plots W-Q2 show that still need to do some optimization
1039
** run sheets: include raster size, update coincidence count labeling, and carbon target labeling
1040
* Discussion of next meeting. Garth at JLab 8-16 March - might have meeting during that time.
1041 26 Richard Trotta
1042 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items:*
1043
** Post slides/notes from this meeting and procedure to set up hcana in Redmine (Tanja)
1044
** Update run sheet and kinematic optimization for W/Q2 (Garth)
1045
** Circulate elastic calculations for kinematic settings (Samip)
1046
** Continue investigation of elastic data and run plan kinematics (Andres/Richard)
1047
** Test software installation instructions (Pete)
1048
** Draft email to JLab management about need for small angle beam pipe - need to have HMS minimum angle of less than 13 degrees for kaon L/T separations (Tanja) 
1049 32 Stephen Kay
1050
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