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h1. *KaonLT/PionLT Meetings*
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KaonLT/PionLT collaboration analysis meetings. Please add your talk to the meeting ahead of time. Add the newest meeting to the top of the list!
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h2. 2022 Meetings
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h3. Nov 2, 2022
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** The first round of the Lumi study in 2.7 GeV data of the PionLT experiment was preceded. The plots are attached, but I do not have any conclusions for now. Please see the attachment.
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attachment:Vijay_REYIELD_2p7C.pdf 
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** The second thing that I have for this meeting is to understand how to get total events in calculating the scaler yield. From Carlo's thesis, it seems that he used the scaler current variable (just integrating it) to get the total scaler events for the scaler yield. I've attached his thesis pages. Please see the attachment. He did not even mention the EDTM subtraction. Therefore, first I would like to understand this (how to get total events for the scaler yield) before making any conclusions from the plots. attachment:Carlo_scaler_yield.pdf  
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* Ali
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** Heep Coin Offset study using Peter Bosted's correction factor for HMS central momenta. The results from 8.2 and 10.6 GeV improved after applying the offset whereas 6.2 over corrects the distributions as they are already looking good with no offset. Data and SIMC comparison look very good for W distribution but doesn't perfectly match for missing variables.
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attachment:KaonLT_Meeting_Nov_2.pdf
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* Richard
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** attachment:Yield_6p2cl1.pdf attachment:Yield_6p2lh2l1.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl1.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl2.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl2.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6lh2l1.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6lh2l2.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6lh2l2.pdf
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** Luminosities are looking very nice. These now include the ones Peter pointed out that were taken during SIDIS. Nearly all e-e runs are under 5%.
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** I have debugged all of the issues I was having with Bill's code. I am now in the process of merging the two frameworks which is mainly just making names, conventions, etc. consistent.
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** I have been writing up some questions for Bill next week when he presents. I'd like to also have these two frameworks pretty much merged by then.
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h3. Oct 26, 2022
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* DaveG notes attachment:mtg_22oct26.txt
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h3. Oct 19, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22oct19.txt
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* Richard
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** The trend in the SHMS track yields is still present in the positive polarity luminosity runs.
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** Talk for the Hall C Quarterly meeting was discussed. 
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h3. Oct 12, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22oct12.txt
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h3. Oct 4, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22oct05.txt
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* Richard
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting10_4_22.pdf
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** Fixed some issues with the luminosity scripts with updated replay and analysis script. The biggest issue was the really low beam on times which came from BCM4a being called by accident in some cases instead of BCM1.
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*** It should be noted, there are huge discrepancies between BCM4A and BCM1 in some cases (like 20+ uA).
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** Ran into some issues with the cross-section code. I am in debug mode trying to find the cause.
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** Tanja sent me some awesome fpi2 raster correction documents as well as procedures for verifying the beam and target positions. I am in the process of reading through/beginning these procedures. A Redmine wiki page will be linked when completed.
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h3. Sept 28, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22sep28.txt
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** HMS optics fitting - attachment:HMS_Optics_Calibrations_Update.pdf
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h3. Sept 21, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen notes attachment:mtg_22sep21.txt
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* Richard
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** attachment:Yield_6p2cl1.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl2.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6cl1.pdf
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** Lumi SHMS tracking is still showing the trend from 9/8. It was found that the lumi replay script is not updated with many of Ali and Richard's most recent changes. These changes are being applied and a set of new replays will be done.
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** Bill's cross-section code is broken into two major parts. The root analysis part, which takes all the yields, uncertainties, etc., is nearly complete with the connecting ltsep framework script finishing up. The second part, where many of the final plots and cross-sections are done, is a hard-coded mess. Richard is in the process of making this more dynamic. This aspect will take more time but the root analysis part is the bulk of the analysis anyways.
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** Heep Coin analysis for high Q2 KaonLT data (6.2, 8.2, 10.6 GeV beam energy) has now all the efficiencies/live times applied. The results for all 3 beam energies are looking very good. Data/SIMC ratios are agreeing very well (< 3%) and the shapes are matching up nicely. Next step is to finalize offsets for both low and high Q2 KaonLT data. Also proton absorption correction and target boiling needs to be applied.
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h3. Sept 8, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22sep08.txt
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* Ali
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** attachment:Sep8_Analysis.pdf
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** Heep Coin Analysis update. Fixed the issue with emiss and pmiss. Includes number of debug tests.
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** attachment:FullAnalysis_4p9-2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_8p2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_6p2.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_3p8-1.pdf attachment:FullAnalysis_10p6-1.pdf
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** Full analysis files are the latest data/simc comparison for different beam energies (No offsets applied yet) 
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* Richard
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting9_8_22.pdf
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** attachment:Yield_6p2_l1_all.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6_l1_all.pdf attachment:Yield_10p6_l2_all.pdf
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** Improved total uncertainties
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** In-depth with tracking cut analysis underway
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** Poor TLT consistent with poor CPULTs
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h3. Aug 31, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug31.txt
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting8_31_22.pdf
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** Improvements to luminosity analysis. Things are getting within a few percent. There are still some obvious issues with dependency leaking into the cuts, especially for tracking which is being investigated further.
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** Uncertainties for the luminosities and heep are next up.
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h3. Aug 26, 2022
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* Meeting on L/T-separation procedure
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** Garth's slides attachment:LT_sep_iterations.pdf
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** Bill's tutorial (Nov 2018) attachment:Kaon_LT_tutorial_18nov28.pdf
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** Stephen's notes attachment:LTsep_mtg_22aug26.txt
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** Recording of Sept 27 repeat at: http://lichen.phys.uregina.ca/~huberg/kaon/LT_tutorial_20220927_1920x1080.mp4
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h3. Aug 17, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug17.txt
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* Vijay
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** The summary of the Heepcheck study is attached here. attachment:Vijay_Aug17_2022.pdf 
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** 3.6 and 3.9 GeV data do NOT have the angle offsets. This has been established in the study.
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** I've plotted the offsets vs SHMS central momentum. Plots are attached in the attached pdf file.
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** The 10.6 GeV heep analysis is going well but the broad momentum distributions are making offsets difficult at times.
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** I have decided to give a second pair of eyes to Ali's hcana vs simc calculation investigation. It is concluded that the broad peaks of the hcana are likely caused by the secondary particle calculation which is gathered from the spectrometer track info. 
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** Corrections to the simc pmiss components have been added to the fortran code which corrects for a minus sign that is in hcana but missing from simc.
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** attachment:FullAnalysis_Offset_10p6.pdf
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** attachment:HcanavSimc_scatter_calc.pdf
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h3. Aug 4, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22aug04.txt
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** The offset HeepCheck study at 3.9, 4.9 (KaonLT), 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 (PionLT) GeV has been completed. attachment:Vijay_HeepCheckStudy.pdf  
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting_8_4_22.pdf
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** HeeP coin for 10p6 setting is looking pretty good. I still need to make some minor adjustments.
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** TLT for Lumi is looking much better. The yields also are looking better but cut adjustments need to be made.
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** HeeP singles have some odd issues that need to be resolved before offset analysis can begin.
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** Hodoscope calibrations are all done except 6p2.
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h3. July 14, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22jul14.txt
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting7_14_22.pdf
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** The W peaks for SIMC and data are very far offset from one another. This is being investigated.
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* Vijay
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** Heep Data MC comparo w/o offsets attachment:Heep_coin_no_offsets_vijay_22jul08.pdf
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h3. June 28, 2022
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* Garth/Stephen Notes attachment:mtg_22jun28.txt
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** Aerogel XY plots vs NPE to check out the tray location and efficiencies.
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** Hodoscope and calorimeter scripts working. Hodoscope calibration looks good for 10p6 but needs improvement for other beam energies.
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** HGCer efficiency and plots added to efficiency script. Need to discuss with Vijay on specifics of cuts and efficiencies.
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** Started looking in detail at Bill's code. Some scripts and links are missing/broken.
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** EDTM Study Report completed, with newer versions of the TLT equations attachment:EDTM_Study_Report.pdf
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** Graphical Guide for Event Types created to accompany the report, illustrating prescaling with EDTM attachment:Graphical_Guide_Evt_Type.pdf
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** Plan to update report file template with new equations and errors soon
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h3. June 14, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:efficiencies_22jun13.txt
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** Fixed issues with simc script and 10p6 Heepcoin data. Issue with data was an offset of 40ns that was corrected halfway through runs.
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** Aerogel XY plots vs NPE to check out the tray location and efficiencies.
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** Efficiency plots for all production runs.
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** attachment:KaonLTMeeting6_14_22.pdf
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h3. May 31, 2022
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** The updated Heep coin study (Heepcheck program) at 3.9 GeV KaonLT data is attached here attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting_May31_2022.pdf .
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** First look at the HEEP COIN Data/SIMC comparison for the 8.2 GeV Kaon-LT data attachment:KaonLT_May31.pdf
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* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may17.txt attachment:efficiencies_22may25.txt
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** Updated heep coin scripts for the farm. Ali is testing them and should be able to get plots soon.
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** There was a small typo in the simc input file that dramatically changed the shape of the plots. attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_17_22.pdf
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** Updated version of efficiency columns for the script that will grab efficiencies and various other values. attachment:efficiency_output_list.docx
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** The updated heep coin study (some spectrometers offsets changed) at 3.9 GeV KaonLT data is attached here attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_meeting.pdf .
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h3. May 3, 2022
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* Garth and Stephen's Notes attachment:mtg_22may03.odt  attachment:efficiencies_22may03.odt
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** Fixed all the settings for high Q2 KaonLT data. Also slide on accessing spectrometer angles from CODA
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** attachment:KaonLT_May_3.pdf
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** Analysis of 10.6 GeV heep data. Need to scale data to see how they compare with SIMC for smaller offsets. attachment:KaonLTMeeting5_3_22.pdf
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** The SIMC simulation study of the PinoLT data at Q2 = 0.38 and 0.42 GeV2 has completed (preliminary) for all settings.
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** An output pdf file of the 4.5 GeV, Q2 = 0.42 GeV2 and "center" setting is here attachment:Vijay_analysis_May3_2022.pdf .
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h3. April 19, 2022
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** SIMC simulation updates at Q2 = 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 GeV2. attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_Meeting_Apr19_2022.pdf  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22apr06.txt
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* Ali 
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**  attachment:Analysis_Update_Apr_6.pdf 
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** The analysis of the 10.6 GeV heep coin/singles settings are still ongoing. 
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** There were some issues getting the replays working for the singles runs and the analysis. Things finally were sorted out yesterday (and this morning).
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** The SHMS heep singles are presented. Overall, they look fine. There are still some things to sort out.
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** The HMS heep singles are still running.
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** The simulation study of the 4.9 GeV KaonLT data has completed.
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** This energy has left, center and right settings data. All these settings look fine. 
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** See the pdf for more info. attachment:Vijay_KaonLT_Meeting_Apri_06_2022.pdf  
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h3. March 23, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22mar23.txt
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** 10.6 GeV heep coin was analyzed. Things look pretty good so far, still some work to be done. attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_23_22.pdf
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** Heep singles are next up. There have been issues replaying these runs but Ali may have fixed this issue with his parameter file changes.
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** Did chack of the Mode 10 plots for HGC, was discrepancy between hardware and software caused by the variable phgcer_SampNSAT being 2 by default.
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** after changing back to 1 discrepancy resolved. Slides: attachment:Mode10Update_2022Mar23.pdf
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* Regina March 4 meeting on pion leak through in (e,e'K+) analysis attachment:grp_22mar04.txt
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** Vijay's scripts are working and Richard reproduced some of his previous plots. attachment:KaonLTMeeting3_9_22.pdf
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** The next step is to do a full analysis of the 10.6 GeV heep coin/singles data.
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** Update on the current state of mode 10: attachment:Mode10Update_2022Mar9.pdf 
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** See Mark Jones' slide on changes to hcana: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1424
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h3. February 23, 2022
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22feb23.txt
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h3. January 26, 2022  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22jan26.txt
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* Vijay, Heep updates from the PionLT experiment. attachment:Analysis_Updates_Jan26_2022.pdf 
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** HMS single 2.7 GeV, total 6 settings. attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_1.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_2.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_3.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_4.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_5.pdf attachment:HMS_Analysed_2p7_6.pdf   
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** SHMS single 2.7 GeV,total 6 settings. attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_1.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_2.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_3.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_4.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_5.pdf attachment:SHMS_Analysed_2p7_6.pdf
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** The 3.6 and 4.5 GeV data do not have elastic data.
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** Coin: 2.7, 3.6 and 4.5 GeV. attachment:Analysed_2p7.pdf attachment:Analysed_3p6.pdf attachment:Analysed_4p5.pdf   
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* Nathan, Short update on the Mode 10
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** Short update. May need to update hcana to change software voltage threshold. attachment:2022-01-26NathanHeinrich.pdf
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* Jacob, EDTM Study 2
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** EDTM study with beam, taken during LUMI Scan 3
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** Early look at 3rd EDTM Study
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** Additional notes on increased deadtime in SHMS at High Current. attachment:PionLT_EDTM_Study2_Analysis.pdf
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h3. January 12, 2022  
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** PID study
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** Heep-singles study attachment:Analysis_Updates1_Jan12.pdf 
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** Mode-10 data variables
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h3. January 5, 2022  
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* Garth's Notes attachment:mtg_22jan05.txt
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** Stephen was updating GitHub but UTIL_BATCH has some permissions issues
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** Update to KLT task schedule
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** Meeting between Richard and Vijay to discuss task breakdown Friday, January 7th at 11 am EST
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** EDTM study 2 will done sometime this weekend
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** Breakdown of HEEP single analysis for low Q2 data
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*** Shapes of SIMC and data are very off
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*** It seems to be a systematic issue on Vijay's part because the same issue is being seen in PLT data
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*** The main issue in my input file was the target thickness, which picked up by Dave in the group meeting. I corrected the target thickness and now it looks ok. See the attached pdf file below.  
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1376
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1375
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** Update on fADC mode 10 studies and the fADC deadtime studies
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** Summary of EDTM analysis so far in the PionLT experiment
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** https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/1373
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h3. August 4, 2021
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** Update on the HEEP singles. The remainder of energy setting ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1% and < 0.5% uncertainty).
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** Issues with the COIN are seen but may be a replay issue.
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h3. July 21, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1250/KaonLTMeeting7_14_21.pdf
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** Update on the HEEP singles. 10.6 GeV ratios vs SIMC were looked at over the range of angles. They look good (within 1%) but proper error bars are needed.
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h3. May 12, 2021
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** The currents were adjusted from 1-10 uA with little effect on the EDMTLT but proper changes to the CPULT. The replay bcm cut script developed by Sanghwa was also analyzed to see if it may be causing the issue but it had the same effects. There was also a small error in the code found where T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTimeRaw was incorrectly written as T.coin.pEDTM.tdcTime.
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h3. April 28, 2021
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** Lumi table was created for 2 sets of runs. Odd behavior seen ~30-45 uA with EDTM where is drops. Playing with the current cuts is the next step.
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h3. April 14, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_4_14_21.pdf
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** Updated Lumi carbon plots with uncertainties. PID and current cuts need to be played around with a bit to see if they improve things (as uncertainties don't explain any boiling-type behaviors). 
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** Some PionLT carbon runs were looked at but there are still some issues (either cut or pathing related).
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h3. March 31, 2021
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** Luminosity studies
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**** Still having issues getting decent results. I think I am just missing a definition somewhere that I need to track down
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*** Uncertainties
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**** Easy to do, I just need to put it into my script
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** Explicit PS calculations
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*** I have gotten a rough script working for very simple runs (ie low rate, single spectrometer, calibration runs)
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*** I am trying to expand to lumi singles runs, things get a bit more complex so I am just working out the trigger correlations
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** Pass 2 runs
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*** DEF-files
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**** I checked out the DEF-files for our combination of the nested files
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**** There are a lot a files (~150!!!!) and may be hard to track so next week *we should make a flowchart together*
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**** Working on my list of branches for the next replay
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***** Mainly just working on my list of branches for the explicit PS calculations
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***** *Everyone should have a list of these branches by next mini-meeting (4/7/21)*
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** Updated DEF-File for the "full" replay
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*** Can't remove NData brances, Mark says they won't take up too many resources anyway
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*** Removed individual PMT info and raw info for many detectors, reduced file size by factor ~2
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** Updating DEF-files/scripts for calibrations as part of PionLT prep
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** Will focus on DEF-file/DEF-cut file updates over next week
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*** Will investigate HeeP replays over rest of this week.
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h3. March 24, 2021
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* "Task summary from Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Replay_2_Tasks
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h3. March 17, 2021
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* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_17_21.pdf
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** I have re-run the carbon lumi runs with the changes to the replay events (i.e. All_events_NO_EDTM). The results look pretty good (within a few percent). There are still some trends I need to investigate for certain runs and I need to do the analysis for the pionLT carbon lumi data.
418 202 Stephen Kay
* Mini meeting March 24th @ 4:30 EDT
419 201 Stephen Kay
420 200 Richard Trotta
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421 194 Richard Trotta
422 199 Richard Trotta
h3. March 3, 2021
423
424
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1197/KaonLTMeeting_3_3_21.pdf
425
** I found an issue with the replay scripts used where the EDTM was not being properly registered. There is a discrepancy between two replay scripts depending on what the Decode_master is set to (i.e. ALL_events vs ALL_events_NO_EDTM). 
426
** The explicit calculation of the prescale has hit a snag because of the differences between 6 GeV and 12 GeV. I contacted Mark Jones, who explained there are significant differences in the ADC gate between the two eras (which my own findings confirmed). I have contacted Brad for further input.
427
428
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429
430
431 196 Richard Trotta
h3. February 17, 2021
432 194 Richard Trotta
433
* Richard
434
** Tried to remove some cumbersome elements to the analysis scripts without success. A few runs were added to a well behaved set of lumi runs with good consistency.
435 198 Nathan Heinrich
* Nathan
436
** Presented an update on the Hodoscope Calibrations: https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1196/HodoscopeUpdate_2021Feb17.pdf
437
438 194 Richard Trotta
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439
440 196 Richard Trotta
h3. February 3, 2021
441 193 Richard Trotta
442
* Richard
443
** A table with the aerogel efficiency for kaons is being created. It will be expanded to other particles and detectors.
444
445
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446
447 196 Richard Trotta
h3. January 20, 2021
448 191 Richard Trotta
449
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1172/KaonLTMeeting_1_20_21.pdf
450
** All KaonLT carbon runs have been analyzed. There are still some issues that seem to be related to the pre-scale values. I may need to investigate the EDTM and/or the COIN events further to correct for these.
451
452
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453
454 196 Richard Trotta
h3. January 6, 2021
455 190 Richard Trotta
456
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1153/KaonLTMeeting1_6_21.pdf
457 322 Richard Trotta
** Analyzed most of the luminosity scans. There are a few issues I am investigating still which seem to be run related. 
458 186 Richard Trotta
459
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460
461
h2. 2020 Meetings
462
463 185 Richard Trotta
h3. December 2, 2020
464
 
465
* Ali and Richard
466
** Richard included the EDTM to Lumi analysis and found some old analysis of scalers by Mark Jones that he will compare. Ali and Richard met last week and will begin combining Ali's tracking studies with Richard's lumi analysis.
467
468
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469
470 180 Richard Trotta
h3. November 18, 2020
471
472 183 Richard Trotta
* "Carlos":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1103/LiveTime_Study_cyero.pdf
473 181 Richard Trotta
** He is investigating some of the EDTM rate dependence and sees a discrepancy between the total EDTM LT and CPU LT with a sudden dip at 20-30 kHz. More luminosity runs will need to be studied for a full conclusion.
474 180 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1101/KaonLTMeeting11_18_20.pdf
475
** Scaler analysis matches Carlos' code now. Overall significant improvements were made through some cut adjustments and incorrect variable definitions.
476
* Stephen
477 182 Richard Trotta
** Updated the hallc_replay_lt with parameter files for all coin peaks.
478 180 Richard Trotta
479
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480
481 178 Richard Trotta
h3. November 4, 2020
482 321 Richard Trotta
 
483 178 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1092/KaonLTMeeting11_4_20.pdf
484 321 Richard Trotta
** Scaler analysis is getting closer to an answer. An in-depth comparison of Carlos and Richard's analysis shows inconsistencies between the two. 
485 178 Richard Trotta
486 141 Stephen Kay
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487
488 170 Richard Trotta
h3. October 28, 2020
489
490
* Ali
491 177 Richard Trotta
** Went over some of his tracking procedures for the report file implementation
492 172 Richard Trotta
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1091/KaonLTMeeting10_28_20.pdf
493 173 Richard Trotta
** Luminosity analysis continues. There are still some issues but things have improved a bit.
494 171 Stephen Kay
* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1090/KaonLT_Meeting_28_10_20.pdf
495
** Discussion of CT peak analysis, progress and outline of what's left to do with this
496 174 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
497 176 Richard Trotta
** Dry run for Mark's hallc meeting tomorrow (10/29)
498 170 Richard Trotta
499
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500
501 164 Richard Trotta
h3. October 14, 2020
502
503 168 Richard Trotta
* Ali
504 164 Richard Trotta
** Working through the REPORT_FILES template to get everything working and outputting proper information.
505
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1085/KaonLTMeeting_10_14_20.pdf
506
** Updates on lumi scans. There are many issues from Scalers to Tracking that need to be resolved.
507 167 Richard Trotta
* Stephen
508 164 Richard Trotta
** He has included a demo for using the python analysis script in the README.
509 1 Richard Trotta
510 164 Richard Trotta
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511
512 161 Richard Trotta
h3. September 23, 2020
513
514
* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1078/KaonLTMeeting_9_23_20.pdf
515
** A quick lumi analysis after the Pass1 runs. The results were compared to previously analyzed runs (5154-5158). There was some change but nothing huge. Some other runs with the same energy settings were analyzed as well. 
516
* Stephen
517 162 Richard Trotta
** Showed some slides from u-channel meeting of omega and proton MM  plots. Then discussed some ideas for dealing with the hole in the HGCer.
518
* Petr
519
** Data fitting algorithm based on E.H. Bellamy paper. Extracts PMT spectra from ROOT file and makes a 1D projection histogram.
520 161 Richard Trotta
521
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522
523 149 Richard Trotta
h3. September 9, 2020
524 156 Richard Trotta
525
* Richard
526 157 Richard Trotta
** Still working on run list, GUI checks
527 156 Richard Trotta
* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/567
528
** New slim replay scripts and full replay scripts updated
529
* Ali
530
** Him and Stephen found an issue (already aware of) with zeros in the parameter files using Mark's hcana changes
531
** Need to be vigilant of crashed replays because this is probably the issue
532 158 Richard Trotta
* Vijay
533 156 Richard Trotta
** Nearly finished with HGcer calibrations
534 1 Richard Trotta
535 156 Richard Trotta
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536
537
h3. August 26, 2020
538
539 149 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/483 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/479
540 154 Richard Trotta
541
* Richard
542
** New tasks were created based on the previous discussions on objectives going forward. In the process of checking run sheets against the run list and camera/EPICS.
543
* Stephen
544
** Updated on RF times. There were a few issues with some runs, but overall most are finished.
545
* Ali
546
** Hodoscope calibrations look similar to before. There is still the issue of the double bands in the time walk. This is ok because of the wide windows we still have. (See "hodoscope calibration section":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks#Calibrations-Mid-to-Late-August-2020)
547
* Vijay
548 150 Richard Trotta
** Updated the SHMS HGCher analysis. The calibrations are coming along, but a little more work needs to be finished up.
549 1 Richard Trotta
550 149 Richard Trotta
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551
552 144 Richard Trotta
h3. July 29, 2020
553 147 Stephen Kay
554 148 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1029/klt_7_29_20.html "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/106
555 146 Stephen Kay
556 155 Richard Trotta
* Stephen
557
** Updates on scripts to set pedestal defaults and AdcTdc offsets after hcana change
558
* Richard
559
** Updated plan and schedule for the analysis going forward
560 1 Richard Trotta
561 144 Richard Trotta
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562
563 139 Richard Trotta
h3. July 8, 2020
564 1 Richard Trotta
565 139 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1023/SHMS%20Proton%20Absorption.ods "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1022/KaonLT_Meeting_Jul_8.pdf
566 150 Richard Trotta
567 139 Richard Trotta
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568
569 132 Richard Trotta
h3. June 24, 2020
570
571 143 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1014/Vijay_24_June_20.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1013/KaonLTMeeting_6_24_20.pdf
572 132 Richard Trotta
573
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574
575 129 Richard Trotta
h3. June 9, 2020
576
577 135 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1006/Vijay_9_June_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1007/KaonLT_Meeting_Jun_9.pdf "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1005/KaonLTMeeting_6_9_20.pdf
578 129 Richard Trotta
579
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580
581 125 Richard Trotta
h3. May 27, 2020
582
583 126 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1002/Vijay_26_May_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/1003/KaonLT_Meeting_May_27%20%5BAutosaved%5D.pdf
584 128 Richard Trotta
585 125 Richard Trotta
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586
587 118 Stephen Kay
h3. May 13, 2020
588 124 Richard Trotta
589 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/993/KaonLT_Meeting_13_05_20.pdf - Python analysis scripts "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/998/KaonLTMeeting_5_13_20.pdf "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/997/KaonLT_Meeting_May_13.pdf "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/999/Vijay_13_May_20.pdf
590 1 Richard Trotta
591 121 Richard Trotta
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592
593 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 29, 2020
594
595 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/984/KaonLTMeeting_4_29_20.pdf "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/985/KaonLT_Meeting_29_04_20.pdf - Python code planning "Mark's hcana tracking update":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/982/Updates-to-HCANA-tracking.pdf
596 106 Richard Trotta
597 1 Richard Trotta
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598 106 Richard Trotta
599 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 15, 2020
600 104 Richard Trotta
601 102 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/977/KaonLTMeeting_4_15_20.pdf
602 105 Richard Trotta
603 102 Richard Trotta
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604 95 Stephen Kay
605 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 1, 2020
606 100 Stephen Kay
607 138 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/949/KaonLT_Meeting_01_04_20.pdf - RF timing "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/948/KaonLTMeeting_4_1_20.pdf
608 101 Richard Trotta
609 41 Stephen Kay
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610 93 Richard Trotta
611 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 18, 2020
612 93 Richard Trotta
613
*Links to talks->* "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 2":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/942/DRAFT2_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
614 1 Richard Trotta
615 93 Richard Trotta
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616 91 Richard Trotta
617 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 11, 2020
618 92 Richard Trotta
619 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/940/KaonLT_Meeting_Mar_11.pdf "Richard's EIC Temple Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/941/DRAFT1_mesonSF_EIC_Temple.pdf
620 94 Richard Trotta
621 91 Richard Trotta
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622 88 Richard Trotta
623 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Feb 26, 2020
624 90 Richard Trotta
625
* Peter's changes to hcana should be coming soon. Richard will check with Mark when he is down there for an update.
626
* Need to incorporate the latest "BCM updates":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/doc-public/ShowDocument?docid=1034 from Dave Mack.
627 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard should look at the luminosity scalar analysis before and after the BCM changes once he gets his script working again.
628 88 Richard Trotta
**  He is checking with Mark about this while he is down in jlab. 
629 1 Richard Trotta
630
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631 86 Richard Trotta
632 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Feb 10, 2020 
633 87 Richard Trotta
634 86 Richard Trotta
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635 1 Richard Trotta
636 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 22, 2020
637 83 Richard Trotta
638
*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Draft 1":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/937/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020_Draft1.pdf
639 85 Richard Trotta
640 1 Richard Trotta
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641 83 Richard Trotta
642 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 15,2020
643 81 Richard Trotta
644 82 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard's Hall C Winter Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/936/KaonLTHallC_WinterTalk2020.pdf
645 81 Richard Trotta
646
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647 78 Richard Trotta
648 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Jan 8,2020
649 78 Richard Trotta
650 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/76
651 79 Richard Trotta
652 1 Richard Trotta
* Richard
653
** PID efficiency script is coming together
654
*** Tighter cuts and cuts on timing, beta, etc. will be needed for cleaner electron cuts
655
*** Hcal cut should be changed to cut around the mean normalized value instead of cutting above or below it only. This will assure electrons aren't lost.
656
657 80 Richard Trotta
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658 113 Richard Trotta
659 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2019 Meetings
660 80 Richard Trotta
661 141 Stephen Kay
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662
663 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Dec 17,2019
664
665 77 Richard Trotta
Reminder: Mark Jones' commissioning analysis meetings are bi-weekly and announced by Mark
666
667
* Stephen
668
** Number of passes finished for HMS calorimeter
669
*** Still wiggles in all passes
670
** Finished his report on calibrations, "DC and Calorimeters":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/74
671
** Put together a list of people's jobs from Regina over the next couple of months, "Regina Analysis Tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/75
672
*** CUA will be putting together a similar list
673 1 Richard Trotta
674 77 Richard Trotta
* Richard
675
** Fixed one error issue with SHMS calorimeter calibration code (discussed Dec 10th meeting), but still have one error
676
** PID efficiency script plots are complete, but still some questions he needs to work out before a final version
677
*** Eventually need to include tracking into PID efficiencies
678
** Pete brought up the question for a number of multi-hits we are getting
679
*** (Dead Time)+(Trigger efficiency)-EDTM
680
681
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682 72 Richard Trotta
683 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Dec 10,2019
684 72 Richard Trotta
685 74 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/73
686
687
* Garth and Stephen were in the most recent SIDIS meeting
688
** Wit had lots of hcana changes but they seem to be critical to our work 
689
*** Changes such as new detector classes
690 1 Richard Trotta
** Hopefully Wit will present these in the next commissioning meeting
691
692 77 Richard Trotta
* Stephen improved wiggles but still prevalent
693 74 Richard Trotta
694
* Richard finished HGCer calibrations, he concluded that the online parameters are sufficient
695
** He also has been looking at SHMS calorimeter calibrations but has had issues running the scripts. Most likely a pathing issue.
696
** The "tasks":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_Tasks page has been updated with a section for efficiencies. 
697
*** A PID efficiency script is currently being developed and hopefully should have some plots for our next meeting.
698
699 75 Richard Trotta
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700 74 Richard Trotta
701 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 26,2019
702 71 Richard Trotta
703
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/480
704
705
* Stephen
706
** DC SHMS, small-angle has poor performance
707
*** Tighter cuts or PID (currently only looks for electrons)
708
** Vardan said calorimeter wiggles are an ongoing issue with no current solution
709
710
* Richard
711 1 Richard Trotta
** The calibrations are nearing completion with only the HG Cherenkov and SHMS calorimeter yet to be finished. There are also smaller issues with some DC and HMS calorimeter runs.
712 71 Richard Trotta
*** Richard will pick up looking at the HGCer calibrations from Vijay's scripts. 
713
*** Richard will also be looking at the SHMS calorimeter and with the suggestion of getting some negatively polarized SHMS runs from Hem.
714
** The HMS Cherenkov is finished with the conclusion that the calibrations from the online runs are good
715
** We can begin looking forward towards efficiencies. 
716
*** Garth suggested that looking at PID may be an advantageous first steps. Precise definitions of these PIDs will need to be logged.
717
*** Clear notes on efficiencies steps will be needed. They will need to be redefined multiple times in multiple ways. 
718
719
* Hem
720
** Has been looking at the calorimeter as well. 
721 70 Richard Trotta
** He has seen the second band in the spectra for some runs, we suggested further looks into HMS hodoscope and subsequently reference times. A recalibration will need to be performed.  
722
723
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724
725 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 19,2019
726 1 Richard Trotta
727 70 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
728
729
* Richard
730
** Finished up TDC cut paper going through the procedure (found "here":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500)
731
** Needed to add Carlos pre-trigger designs to an appendix for the paper which clarifies the introduction section
732
733
* Stephen
734
** Issues with DC calibration for only a few runs during each run period
735
** "wiggles" in HMS calorimeter calibrations for some runs
736
*** few runs where HMS cal totally failed (which was dependent on initial parameters)
737
*** Spring looked worse than the rest (surprisingly), but this may be because online calibration wasn't great
738
739 2 Richard Trotta
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740 68 Richard Trotta
741 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Nov 5,2019
742 68 Richard Trotta
743
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
744
745
* Timing update (Stephen)
746
** Reference times between Richard and Stephen are very similar and the GitHub is updated accordingly
747
** Richard is going to add the trigger time cuts once the fall runs are finished (by end of week)
748
** First pass of detector reference time parameter files finished
749 1 Richard Trotta
750 68 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana code (Richard and Stephen)
751
** Peter's code does not remove ghost bands (already known), but now Stephen is seeing a strang horizontal band for just SHMS hodoscope 2D plots
752
*** Richard has emailed Peter about the issue with no response yet (follow-up soon)
753
** This means we still need the reference time amplitude cut with Peter's code but using just the amplitude cut with Mark's latest version of hcana should be sufficient for calibrations.
754
755
* Calibrations were decided to be done once per shift
756
757
* Next meeting schedule...
758 127 Richard Trotta
** Small meetings Nov 12 and Nov 19 (at 3pm EST) so Richard and Stephen can iron out the timing and calibrations
759
** November 26 (at 3pm EST) will be a larger meeting. 
760 68 Richard Trotta
*** This is the rough deadline we made for finishing up calibrations. 
761
*** This should be sufficient for all detectors (although hodoscope and HG which may persist). The ultimate goal is for all calibrations to be finished up before Winter break!!
762
763
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764
765 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Oct 22,2019
766 62 Richard Trotta
767 64 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
768 62 Richard Trotta
769 65 Richard Trotta
* SHMS Reference Time Amplitude Cuts(Stephen)
770
** Extra peaks in HG from cross-talk and "ghost-bands" due to ADC screw up
771
*** cuts applied on SHMS ADC ref time amplitude (greater than zero) done before any further event selection and histogram filling
772
** This is a temporary fix to "ghost-bands" and cross talk
773
*** Although for HG there is still a small peak. The hodoscope is fine.
774
** The time window is easier to set now.
775
** DC has been fine (since it uses TDC)
776
*** DC calibrations should be good to complete, other detectors need more fixes (i.e. the remaining "ghost-band")
777
** Hodoscope still bad but this might be because of that "ghost-band", needs to be further investigated
778
779 1 Richard Trotta
* Peter's hcana fixes for reference time (Richard)
780 67 Richard Trotta
** Peter implemented changes to hcana
781
** Two major issues...
782 1 Richard Trotta
## Amplitude goes to null and integral is low or negative which causes a rate-dependent efficiency. 
783 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter has used the average pulse value acquired over a large sample of runs for each detector. 
784 1 Richard Trotta
## Timing offset between EL-REAL and 3/4 is 130 ns which causes junk tracks at high SHMS rates (~6% of the time)
785 67 Richard Trotta
*** Peter created a routine to find the best offset by means of matching TDC and ADC
786
** Richard has been checking for bugs in the code. 
787
*** It seems to be ready to implement, Richard emailed Peter for confirmation on the implementation in our group directory
788
789 1 Richard Trotta
* Calibration of HMS detectors when the timing is agreed upon by Stephen and Richard.
790 67 Richard Trotta
** Besides hodoscope which still has an issue with the script
791 65 Richard Trotta
** Stephen and Richard are having a meeting late next week to determine time window values
792 62 Richard Trotta
*** These will be relatively final, but on the wider side if adjustments need to be made in the future
793
794 1 Richard Trotta
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795 61 Richard Trotta
796 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 24,2019
797 61 Richard Trotta
798
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
799 1 Richard Trotta
800 61 Richard Trotta
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801 1 Richard Trotta
802 111 Richard Trotta
h3. Sep 10,2019
803 59 Vijay Kumar
804
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/72 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
805 1 Richard Trotta
806
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807 55 Stephen Kay
808 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 26, 2019
809 55 Stephen Kay
810
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/69 "Ali":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/70 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/71 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/issues/500
811 1 Richard Trotta
812 54 Richard Trotta
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813
814 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 21, 2019
815 54 Richard Trotta
816 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 
817 54 Richard Trotta
818 42 Stephen Kay
----
819
820 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 14, 2019
821 1 Richard Trotta
822 46 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/64 "Update-Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/65 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/download/814/Analy_update3.pdf
823 42 Stephen Kay
824
825 35 Stephen Kay
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826 1 Richard Trotta
827 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 4, 2019
828 36 Vijay Kumar
829 1 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/56 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/57 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/58 "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/59 "Hallc Talk Outline":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/60 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/61
830 35 Stephen Kay
831 1 Richard Trotta
832 35 Stephen Kay
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833 1 Richard Trotta
834 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 21, 2019
835 1 Richard Trotta
836
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/52 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/? "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/53 "Nathan":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/54 "Vijay":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/55
837 35 Stephen Kay
838
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839 1 Richard Trotta
840 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 14, 2019
841 1 Richard Trotta
842 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/48 "Carlos' slides":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/49 "Mireille":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/50 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/51
843 1 Richard Trotta
844 35 Stephen Kay
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845 1 Richard Trotta
846 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 30, 2019
847 1 Richard Trotta
848
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/45 "Richard's slides in wiki":https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Analysis_How-To "Brad Computing":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/46 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/47
849 35 Stephen Kay
850 1 Richard Trotta
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851
852
h3. February 4, 2019
853
854
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/43 "Stephen":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/44
855
856
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857 113 Richard Trotta
858 112 Richard Trotta
h2. 2018 Meetings
859 141 Stephen Kay
860
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861 111 Richard Trotta
862
h3. August 21, 2018
863
864 1 Richard Trotta
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
865 35 Stephen Kay
866 1 Richard Trotta
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867 35 Stephen Kay
868 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 8, 2018
869 35 Stephen Kay
870
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #404 #405 #406
871 1 Richard Trotta
872
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873 35 Stephen Kay
874 111 Richard Trotta
h3. August 3, 2018
875 1 Richard Trotta
876 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383
877
*Links to talks->*
878 1 Richard Trotta
879 35 Stephen Kay
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880 1 Richard Trotta
881 111 Richard Trotta
h3. July 11, 2018
882 1 Richard Trotta
883 35 Stephen Kay
*Ongoing Tasks->* #381 #382 #383 #384
884 1 Richard Trotta
885 35 Stephen Kay
*Action items:*
886 1 Richard Trotta
887 35 Stephen Kay
* Update run plan, e.g. add prescales (Garth)
888
* Check on details of: magnet cycling procedure, minimum angles, MCC fringe field steering, beam energy measurements, optics checks (Tanja)
889
* Identify additional run coordinators (Tanja)
890
* Encourage collaborators to take shifts, e.g. FIU (Pete)
891
* Draft email about shifts etc. to collaboration (Tanja)
892
* Develop diagnostic scripts and kaonLT specific (Richard, Ryan)
893
* Continue documentation development, e.g. checklist, shift taker instructions, HowTo or link to generic Hall C HowTo, task list, web page (Richard, Garth)
894 1 Richard Trotta
895 35 Stephen Kay
*Discussions:*
896
897
* SHMS Aerogel Cherenkov: tray has been changed to SP-11 on 10 July, nominal time for change is 8 hours, one tray can stay in the hall to minimize overhead
898
* HGC: waiting for re-installation
899
* Trigger checkout: main items to keep in mind: fADC thresholds, timing HMS/SHMS - leading arm, possible rate limitations
900 1 Richard Trotta
* Shifts
901
* Diagnostics scripts and documentation
902
* Personnel schedules
903
904
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905
906 111 Richard Trotta
h3. June 28, 2018
907 1 Richard Trotta
908
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/34
909
910
*Action Items:*
911
912
* Develop and post shift schedule. Send out request. Find out who is KAONLT liaison (Tanja)
913
* Contact potential run coordinators. (Tanja)
914
* Aerogel tray exchange for start of experiment and coordination of future exchanges (Vladimir)
915
* Update runplan and prepare documents needed for shift crew, e.g. run sheets (Garth)
916
* Set up a web page to collect and link from Redmine - How-To documents, initial calibrations, etc. (Garth, Richard)
917
* Adapt luminosity scan script to calculate kaon yields by run number for use during experiment by shift crew - has to be simple to use. (Richard)
918
* Develop trigger/detector checkout plan (Tanja, initial draft)
919
** Are all experts available at run start, experts needed: coincidence timing , Harp Scans, BCM calibrations, ...
920
* Find out from JLab what the anticipated settings are for limit switches for both spectrometers and for separation angle in between them. Also find out what magnet cycling procedure should be used for L/T quality separation data (Tanja)
921
* Find out if all aerogel trays needed for experiment can be stored inside Hall C to avoid having to open truck ramp (Vladimir)
922
923
*Analysis Updates:*
924
925
* Ryan 
926
** resolving differences between his analysis and Richard's
927
928
* Richard
929
** Discussed with Mark Jones and is cross checking his January luminosity scan analysis against Mark's. Realized that BCM calibrations (gains, offsets etc) are different - currently working on fixing that, presents current results - low curent point is ~10% below unity, discussion that this seems to indicate that BCM offsets are the issue as low current points would be most sensitive, is planning to also double-check the BCM calibration procedure - had discussion with Dave Mack at JLab
930
** Presents a script developed for luminosity scans that determines yields for a run number input on command line. Discussion this could be good to adapt for kaon counting during experiment.
931
932
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933
934 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 31, 2018
935 1 Richard Trotta
936 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
937 1 Richard Trotta
938 35 Stephen Kay
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939 1 Richard Trotta
940 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 17, 2018 
941 1 Richard Trotta
942 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/29, "Ryan":https://hallcweb.jlab.org/DocDB/0009/000968/001/Presentation.pdf, "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/30
943 2 Richard Trotta
944 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity scans (Richard, Ryan)
945 111 Richard Trotta
** Carbon scan from April seems consistent with no boiling, LH3 and LD2 show deviation from unity, should check effect of EDTM events on efficiencies
946 35 Stephen Kay
** Carbon scans from January (low rates) have large deviations from unity, in particular behavior at higher currents (>40uA), e.g. cpu dead time, that is not yet understood
947
** discussion about pre-scale factors
948 1 Richard Trotta
949 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion about Richard's script extracting and printing information from report files and trees including histograms
950
** Add option for looking at yields with cuts on cointime, target window, and missing mass
951
** Add option to look at real peak vs. background level
952 1 Richard Trotta
953 35 Stephen Kay
* H(e,e'p) kinematics investigation for fall run (Samip)
954
** Optimal range is between electron angles of 17-20 degrees, time required ranges from ~1 hour at 17 degrees to ~3 hour at 20 degrees, other angles may be of interest for disentangling charge and current dependent effects
955 1 Richard Trotta
956 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items*
957
** Luminosity scans at low rates from January (Richard)
958
** Luminosity scans from April with corrected efficiencies, e.d. DT (Ryan)
959
** H(e,e'p) and H(e,e') kinematics for upcoming Kaon LT run (Samip)
960
** Kaon LT detailed run plan (Garth, Pete, Tanja)
961
** Preparations, e.g. report files, diagnostic histograms and real time monitoring, shift worker instructions, optimization of trees (all)
962 1 Richard Trotta
963
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964
965 111 Richard Trotta
h3. May 10, 2018
966 35 Stephen Kay
967 2 Richard Trotta
*Links to talks->* "Hem":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/24, "Richard":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/23, "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/26
968 35 Stephen Kay
969
* Luminosity Scans January 2018 (Richard)
970
** Tracking-based analysis for Runs 1415-1423, .. for now focus on HMS, typical HMS S1X rates are <
971
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (Cer, Cal), acceptance (delta)
972
** Efficiency calculation was investigated in detail and applied using scalers from trees
973
** Results for carbon (normalized to 30uA) show large variation - need to understand
974
** *Next steps:*
975
*** Double check calculation of computer lifetime, look for differences in TRIG and PRETRIG scalers
976
*** Check stability of pre-scale (Ryan saw changes within runs)
977
*** Check if detector calibrations for runs are implemented correctly
978
*** Analyze with Ryan's cuts
979 1 Richard Trotta
980 35 Stephen Kay
* Luminosity Scans April 2018 (Ryan)
981
** Confirms Richard's earlier finding that scaler-based analysis is not reliable and that it's best to analyze event-by-event
982
** Tracking-based analysis for runs 2073-2095
983
** Cuts applied: PID for electrons (TOF, Cal, Chi2), acceptance (delta and angles), BCM4a
984
** Included most recent detector calibrations in replay of these runs
985
** Efficiencies from report file mainly, may need to update tracking efficiency implementation
986
** Found that calculations of computer deadtime requires different set of scalers for runs from January to those from April 2018
987
** Results show carbon yields consistent with unity within error (0.5% error bars), and boiling for hydrogen and deuterium
988
** *Next steps:*
989 5 Richard Trotta
*** Check tracking efficiency
990 35 Stephen Kay
991
* *Global comments on Luminosity Scans (so far)*
992 1 Richard Trotta
** April 2018 scans show hydrogen and deuterium target boiling on level of 3-4%, Carbon is consistent with no boiling, as expected - based on description, new targets are expected to have less boiling than those used previously, e.g. in FPI2. Double check this.
993 35 Stephen Kay
** Efficiencies in report files need to be updated, e.g. CPU deadtime (Richard)
994
** Check if BCM4a is the one closest to the target - get a map of the hall (Richard, Ryan)
995
** Uncertainties on current
996
** Detector calibrations
997 1 Richard Trotta
** HMS vs. SHMS
998 35 Stephen Kay
999
* eK+ coincidence time from SIDIS Spring 2018 run (Samip)
1000
** Worked with Mark Jones on coincidence time calculation - now available in hcana (see Samip's 10 May 2018 email for more details)
1001
** runs used in this analysis: 3423 with Q2=3.1 GeV2 and W=2.78 GeV
1002
** Coincidence time spectrum shows peak separations >2 ns corresponding to different accelerator frequency
1003
** Missing mass spectra: Kaon peak clearly visible, also see pions even after cuts
1004
** Found that pions appear localized in phase space - seems to be due to end point in kinematic phase space
1005 1 Richard Trotta
** *Next steps:*
1006 2 Richard Trotta
*** Look for a run with kaon momentum closer to 3 GeV/c (aerogel threshold is ~3 GeV/c for kaons for n=1.015)
1007 35 Stephen Kay
1008
* Yield normalized ratios from SIDIS (Hem)
1009
** Yield ratios of data to MC match well in shape, but normalization seems not quite right
1010
** *Next steps:*
1011 4 Richard Trotta
*** Check if efficiencies, currents, run time etc. are taken into account correctly
1012
1013
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1014 35 Stephen Kay
1015 111 Richard Trotta
h3. April 26, 2018
1016 4 Richard Trotta
1017 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard,":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/18 "Ryan, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/20 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/25
1018 4 Richard Trotta
1019 35 Stephen Kay
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (earlier scan) - Richard
1020
** Shown is a scaler-based analysis using scalers from report file and from ROOT tree - the values are different, why that is has to be checked
1021
** Notes on efficiencies in report file:
1022
*** DT (EDTM) is not electronic deadtime. Instead use for now 50ns* trigger rate for HMS and 100ns* trigger rate for SHMS
1023
*** Cherenkov efficiency seems low (check if that is due to PID, thresholds, pi/e, etc)
1024
*** Tracking efficiency needs to be checked
1025
*** 3/4 trigger efficiency seems ok
1026
* Discussion luminosity scan analysis (later scan) - Ryan
1027
** Fewer carbon runs than earlier scan
1028
** Shown is a tracking-based analysis using data from the ROOT trees
1029 111 Richard Trotta
** First results for carbon, LH3, and LD2, but efficiencies need to be checked
1030 35 Stephen Kay
* SIDIS analysis - Hem
1031
** Shown is a data/MC comparison for different kinematic settings. Agreement in shape is very good. Normalization has yet to be applied.
1032
** Discussion about agreement in z and apparent offset - relation of this offset with spectrometer offset
1033
* Analysis of exclusive events in SIDIS - Samip
1034
** Shown is a look at the first kaon events in exclusive limit of SIDIS data
1035
** Ongoing work on implementing coincidence time into tree
1036
* Discussion of run plan, and in particular possible low Q2/low energy
1037
** Assume that kaon low Q2=0.4 already included - have kinematics with specified beam energies, if needed
1038
** For pion form factor and LT, have two possible settings that can use the prescribed beam energies: Q2=1.45 and 0.35 GeV2 - prioritize towards the higher Q2 as not as sensitive to offsets
1039
** Garth will put this together in a draft email
1040
1041 12 Richard Trotta
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1042
1043 111 Richard Trotta
h3. March 29, 2018
1044 12 Richard Trotta
1045 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Richard, ":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/16 "Samip":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/27
1046 13 Richard Trotta
1047 35 Stephen Kay
* Details of adding points to fall run plan - will be ready sooner, likely in week of 4/1 (Garth, Samip, Tanja)
1048
* Luminosity scans (Ryan, Andres, Richard, Pete)
1049
* Macros, SIDIS analysis (Hem, Anashe)
1050
* Elastic data (TBD)
1051
1052 14 Richard Trotta
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1053 18 Richard Trotta
1054 111 Richard Trotta
h3. February 22, 2018
1055 18 Richard Trotta
1056 35 Stephen Kay
*Links to talks->* "Andres":https://redmine.jlab.org/documents/19
1057 18 Richard Trotta
1058 35 Stephen Kay
*  Discussion of Andres' slides on elastic W calculation in hcana - initial issue with negative W values seems to be due to outdated information in standard.kinematics file. Additional investigation ongoing.
1059
* Brief description of Samip's work - working on coincidence timing decoding with JLab staff and re-optimization of kinematics
1060
* Discussion of Richard's slides on run plan kinematics and preparations -
1061
** everyone agrees that in general want to have as many L/T cross section separations as possible in a robust run plan balancing statistics vs. systematics
1062
** before actual run may want to do a 3D optimization in all kinematic variables to get the best possible delta(epsilon) for the L/T separations
1063
** for each setting will need 1-2 shifts for calibrations - need to negotiate with other experiments in run group
1064
** kinematics plots W-Q2 show that still need to do some optimization
1065
** run sheets: include raster size, update coincidence count labeling, and carbon target labeling
1066
* Discussion of next meeting. Garth at JLab 8-16 March - might have meeting during that time.
1067 26 Richard Trotta
1068 35 Stephen Kay
* *Action Items:*
1069
** Post slides/notes from this meeting and procedure to set up hcana in Redmine (Tanja)
1070
** Update run sheet and kinematic optimization for W/Q2 (Garth)
1071
** Circulate elastic calculations for kinematic settings (Samip)
1072
** Continue investigation of elastic data and run plan kinematics (Andres/Richard)
1073
** Test software installation instructions (Pete)
1074
** Draft email to JLab management about need for small angle beam pipe - need to have HMS minimum angle of less than 13 degrees for kaon L/T separations (Tanja) 
1075 32 Stephen Kay
1076
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