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Garth Huber, 11/02/2022 01:26 PM

 
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                 Nov 2/22 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
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                           (Notes by GH and SJDK)
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                    Today: KaonLT will be discussed first
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Please remember to post your slides at:
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https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Kaon_LT_Meetings
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Present:
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Regina - Garth Huber, Stephen Kay, Ali Usman, Alicia Postuma, Vijay Kumar,
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   Nathan Heinrich, Muhammad Junaid, Love Preet
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CSULA - Konrad Aniol, Erika Gwin
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Ohio - Jacob Murphy, Julie Roche
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CUA - Richard Trotta
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JLab - Dave Gaskell
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FIU - Pete Markowitz
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- Garth notes he'll have to leave in ~1 hour
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- Vijay has some internet issues so will be slightly late
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Richard Updates
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LT separation code
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  - Debugged issues with Bill's code
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  - Inputs our root files, gets his root files out
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   - Need to update framework, some variable naming, etc. but otherwise the
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     modifications are complete
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   - Bill will be giving a talk to us next week
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   - GH suggests sending questions to Bill via email in advance
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Luminosity scans
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   - looked at new runs taken during SIDIS that Peter Bosted suggested in the
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     analysis meeting
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      - these are at 10.6 GeV with SHMS negative polarity, so very useful
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   - Runs 7948-7952 Carbon (neg polarity) shown
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      - rate dependence looks generally pretty good
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   IMPROVEMENTS MADE:
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   - Looked at ELCLEAN vs ELREAL in scaler analysis
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      - some rate dependences were improved, but others were worse, details not
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        given
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      - Switched back to ELREAL for now
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   - found an error in SHMS code, should have EventType=1&3 for everything,
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     some were missing #1 by mistake
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   - opened up current threshold for some runs
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   - GH: Was the 0.1 uA offset discussed previously added?  RT: No.
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     - carbon runs 7948-52 fairly flat ~5% variation, but a low current offset
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       of a few percent would make this even flatter
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      - 5uA run ~2% high?
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      - would match with suggested ~0.1uA offset
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   - runs 7954-60 show small evidence of LH2 boiling, consistent between both
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     spectrometers 
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   - 10.6 GeV runs 5154-5299 still have some weird effect on the SHMS carbon
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     runs
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      - HMS runs look very good
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      - runs 5175-5301 improved a lot after EventType fix
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   - 10.6 GeV runs Peter mentioned look very good overall (5351 - 5358)
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      - Highest current point looks odd (current cut issue?)
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      - Carbon basically done, LH2 needs a little fixing (plots)
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   - Cryotarget boiling correction should be the same at all beam energies
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      - Qualitatively, looks like this may be the case
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   - Dummy target Lumi scan up to 40uA available too
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   - Will post plots on Redmine
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Ali Updates
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HeeP Coin offset study update
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  - Peter looked at 6.2, 8.2 and 10.6 GeV pion/kaon data from KaonLT
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       Got a correction factor of 0.998 on HMS central momentum
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      - Calculated from Holly's formula
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      - Momentum correction was applied already in Holly's magnet setting
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        program in PionLT?
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         - *Jacob* will follow up with Holly and figure out when this was
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	   actually applied
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         - DG - At low momentum, this correction had some weird behavior
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   - Peter has a vertical angle offset in HMS (~2.7 mrad)
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   - No SHMS central momentum or angle correction
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   - His study showed pion/kaon MM peaks at roughly the correct place (~2-3 MeV
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     off)
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   - Ali shows his before/after plots (of W) for each beam energy using Peter's
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     offsets 
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      - 6.2 GeV, correction overcorrects the data.  No offset actually gives
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        best result
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      - 8.2 GeV, correction improves things a lot
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      - 10.6 GeV, correction improves things, but now the peak shift is in the
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        opposite direction than with no offset
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      - See slides for P_HMS/P_SHMS values
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   - Still need to add vertical angle offset, but this won't really shift W
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   - JM - 6.59 GeV/c central momentum offset for the HMS for the runs Ali was
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     showing changed a lot
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      - digs up some old tables from his earlier analysis to demonstrate this,
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        runs 4806-4825 (KaonLT 10.6GeV delta scan)
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      - DG points out that the angle was changing here too in some cases
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      - Even still, there are some run to run shifts in this scan
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      - NMR readback was shifting a lot in these runs, was the dipole actually
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       locked here?
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         - Is there an EPICS variable for the NMR lock?
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         - If not, there probably should be
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	 - The MyaPlot archive will show whether the NMR was locked or not for
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           these runs
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      - Run sheets indicate there was some adjustment of the HMS between 4806
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        and 4808
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	 - most likely the shift crew had the NMR locked, but hadn't waited
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          long enough for the HMS to settle and got an alarm after run 4806
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          (such as at beginning of junk 4807) and made an adjustment before
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          4808 to bring things to spec
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      - JM, AU, RT, VK will continue to *discuss* this offline
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   - Ali shows before/after emiss plots (with Peter's offsets)
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      - None of them look great
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      - 8.2 GeV looks "best", data looks broader
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      - 6.2 GeV looks worse than with no offset
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   - pmy looks quite different between data/SIMC
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      - No vertical offset applied here though
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   *IMPORTANT*
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   - RT - Peter has some different tweaks for SIMC, for example he
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     re-calculates all variables on his own to be sure things are done the same
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     way for both MC and data
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   - the fact that Peter sees good agreement between Data & MC but Ali doesn't
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     with same offsets should be a real concern
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      - the different variable definitions v.likely a contributing factor
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   - DG: Resolving this should be a priority!
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      - hcana variable definitions are more straightforward than in SIMC, so
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        suggestion is to modify SIMC to use identical formulas as hcana
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   - *Richard* will take a look at adding in new SIMC variables where they're
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     calculated to match hcana
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Vijay Updates
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Low energy lumi scan plots (runs 8456-70 carbon scaler analysis)
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   - generally things look promising, with ~5% variation
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   - Scaler yield shows increasing trend for HMS and SHMS carbon
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   - Will need to play around with beam current offset
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   - HMS and SHMS look different which is slightly odd
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   - For low current run, may just need to apply an offset
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   - Error bars for track yield lumi scans are very large
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   - Scaler yield - applying CPULT
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      - Should not be applying CPULT
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      - Only need to apply electronic LT correction
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      - Determine from comparison between CPU/EDTM LTs
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   - Should also be using ELCLEAN or ELREAL, not total triggers, which is too
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     loose at high rate
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      - ELREAL is probably best
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      - will discuss further offline
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GH leaves to go catch the bus to the airport
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Rest of notes by SJDK
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Jacob Updates
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Optics
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   - Met with Holly yesterday
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      - Target length and optical matrix
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      - Discussed using A1N/D2N matrix elements: shouldn't really affect us too
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        much
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      - Jacob will check and compare with what we have to confirm this though
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Scanning through kinematics for PionLT
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  - Making a master standard.kinematics file
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  - Updating angles/energy in same way as KaonLT
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Vijay Discussion - Scaler Tree
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   - Scaler current plot
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   - Clarification of scaler reads
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   - Richard shows in his code how this is done - scaler.py
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   - A little less intuitive in how these are counted and the sum is determined
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   - Can't just integrate over the tree
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      - Need to explicitly go through the tree one event at a time
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Stephen Updates
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- Added in RF-time corrected for flight time according to particle mass
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   - e/pi/K/p
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   - In hcana, runs ok
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   - Need to test and check it looks OK
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      - Flat vs beta for each particle type (with PID cuts for particle)
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      - Will try to make some plots and show in an upcoming meeting
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   - Implementation differs slightly from Shuo, will discuss
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