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Garth Huber, 12/15/2022 01:31 PM

 
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                 Dec 14/22 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
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                           (Notes by GH and SJDK)
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                    Today: PionLT will be discussed first
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Please remember to post your slides at:
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https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Kaon_LT_Meetings
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Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Stephen Kay, Ali Usman, Alicia Postuma, Nathan Heinrich
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CSULA - Konrad Aniol
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CUA - Richard Trotta, Tanja Horn
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JLab - Dave Gaskell
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Jacob Updates
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- HMS Optics Matrix Element (ME) updates
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   - Met with Holly last week
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   - Making improvements to PolTar ME --> Optimized PolTar
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      - Comparing Recon 2018 (used for online except highest momentum), 6.6
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        GeV/c matrix, PolTar
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      - Sieve plane with Optimized PolTar is reasonable, some holes have a
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        weird tilt
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      - Upstream foil: -ve delta resolution is fairly bad
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      - Central foil: additional holes at lower right (+Ys,-Xs) since more
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        events pass (Ytar vs delta) cuts
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   - Discussion: More events now, why?
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      - Reconstructed to the wrong place?
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      - apply xpfp vs xfp cuts to identify sieve holes
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      - fit new ME, Ytar is known from foil target coordinate
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      - recalc what target quantities should be, check if Xtar is all right
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      - Ytar resolution is improved, peak is sharper and more events pass
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        narrow Ytar cut
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   - Showed result to Holly, doing a second pass fit, use "new" sieve holes to
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     try to get further improvement
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      - optimized the cuts
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      - No improvement in yfp for upstream/downstream foils
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      - Only improvement seemed to be on the central foil
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      - Second optimisation improved sieve rows Ys 1, 7 (slightly)
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- working on a write-up for his thesis, will distribute
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- making improvements to scripts so easier for someone else to do optimizations
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  in the future
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   - next step is to add in higher order elements and see if solver can do new
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     fit
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- Holly is working on SHMS high momentum ME
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- Will be presenting Optics updates at Hall C meeting in January
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- almost done std.kin checks
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Nathan Updates
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- will start with Detector time optimizations after Finals (next week)
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   - Ref times etc
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   - Most cuts wide open, they work but could be narrowed
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   - will replay runs from different settings to see if Ref time jumping around
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   - following Carlos Yero instructions
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- Nathan is giving the LT talk at the Hall C meeting (both expts)
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   - KaonLT: TH comment, its *very important* we present a plan on progress
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     toward cross sections, can't just keep giving the same talk, the data
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     taking was completed some time ago and people are eager to see progress
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      - RT can send efficiency plots almost immediately
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      - Jan 3 *Deadline* to send NH: some rough/preliminary cross section plots
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   - PionLT: initial analysis, try to stick to new material, not just online
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   - Meet with Ali/Richard and others next week to try and decide on the
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     structure of the talk
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Junaid 
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- Still away, sent fancy pictures from his wedding in Pakistan
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Vijay
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- returning Dec 24 from his father's funeral in India
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Richard Updates 
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- Bill updated LT Separation directory containing all his datasets and scripts
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  not in GitHub
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   - can more easily see his iteration procedure now
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   - located at: /work/eic/users/billlee/omega_analysis
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   - Stephen needs to move this to a group/accessible area
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- SIMC/hcana PMiss, EMiss discrepancies
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   - Adding in hcana calculations into SIMC
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   - In hcana, it uses the Boost function for TLorentz vectors to get them in
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     the right frame
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      - No such functions exist in SIMC so doing these manually
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      - TH: Analytical boost functions should already be in SIMC
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         - RT will check with Dave G or Mark Jones
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Ali Updates
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- fairly busy with end of semester teaching stuff
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- Modifying error calculations (from Gaussian to Binomial) in report template
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  files
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   - Will improve error bars on all future replays
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- Need to add correction factor for EDTM livetime that Dave G mentioned in the
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  last meeting
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- HMS calorimeter efficiency study needed
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Alicia Updates
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- No new updates, courses/end of term keeping Alicia busy like lots of others
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- Next on the table is the dummy target subtraction for the asymmetries
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   - Need to check error bar propagation
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- Will replay many other data settings over break with the helicity enabled
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- Comparisons of BSA data to models
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   - Alicia will run VR/VGG models to get LT' values at some point
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   - GH has contacted Kroll & Goloskokov re. GPD model calcs, no reply yet
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      - NOTE: Peter Kroll responds on Dec 15.  He's interested in the data, but
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        it will be some months before he has time to look at it
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   - GH will also contact B-G Yu in Korea about Regge-based model
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Discussion of JLab 20+ GeV Upgrade
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- GH: Hall C can do a lot without upgrading spectrometers to around ~18 GeV
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  beam energy, dictated by sum of HMS(7)+SHMS(11) momenta
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   - For exclusive reactions at least anyway, SIDIS has weaker constraint and
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     can use HMS+SHMS to even higher energy
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   - GH also looked at impact of replacing HMS with a new spectrometer capable
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     of smaller angle and higher momentum.  Its impact was fairly limited in
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     comparison to what you can do with HMS+SHMS and 18GeV beam
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- Pion form factor reach extended to Q2~11.5 GeV with an 18 GeV beam
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   - improvements are due to larger delta-epsilon because of higher upper beam
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     energy, and larger virtual photon flux at a given Q2
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   - conclusion from Aug 20+ workshop was that 16-18 GeV e- beam gives you the
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     12 GeV GPD program properly!
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Next Meeting
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Wed Dec 21 @ 9:00 Eastern/8:00 Regina/6:00 Pacific
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- KaonLT will go first
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- GH will distribute a poll soon to pick a time for meetings after Jan 10
(145-145/416)