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Garth Huber, 05/03/2024 06:53 PM

 
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                May 2/24 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
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                                (Notes by GH)
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                     Today: PionLT will be discussed first
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Please remember to post your slides at:
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https://redmine.jlab.org/projects/kltexp/wiki/Kaon_LT_Meetings
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Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Nathan Heinrich, Nacer Hamdi, Ali Usman, Muhammad Junaid,
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   Vijay Kumar, Zach Sullivan
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CUA - Casey Morean, Tanja Horn
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JLab - Dave Gaskell
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CSULA - Konrad Aniol
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York - Stephen Kay
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UVa - Richard Trotta
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FIU - Pete Markowitz
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Nathan
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BCM calib results for PionLT
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- Dave Mack impressed with Nathan's fast progress
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  - DM loked at NH's 2021 results, calculated some numbers to use
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  - NH looked at 2022 results, calculating his own numbers to show DM
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- BCM4A 2021-22 data
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  - DM, NH get similar calibration constants
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- BCM2 looks good, DM & NH numbers almost identical
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  - NH shows fit of BCM Rate vs Unser Current and Residuals
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  - Time vs Residual plot uses time of BCM runs themselves, to check for time
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    dependence in fit residuals
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  - residuals vs time look pretty stable, which is good news
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- the residuals plot that is concerning is BCM4A, 2021 data
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  - shows a small (2-3 sigma) trend in residual with time
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  - two BCM calib for runs 12500-12900 very consistent, so also are two BCM
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    calib for runs 13700-14100, but a noticeable change between these two sets
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    - no obvious reason why these 2 sets are different, or even where to put a
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      time break between them
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  - pushed calib param to HallC_replay
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    - BCM4A uses error weighted average of these 4 2021 points
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    - also takes weighted average of 4 2022 points
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    - obvious break between these two sets is the end of 2021/start of 2022
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      running
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- Conclusion:
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1) can use BCM2 or BCM4A, they have similar saturation @ high current
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  - DM adds a quadratic term above 50uA
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    - DG: Nathan should use the quadratic correction already in hcana, it was
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      determined with a current source and should be still valid
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    - Nathan will apply DM's quadratic correction and see if it works
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  - after this, Nathan will replay all Lumi data
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2) Nathan has not calibrated BCM4B
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  - 2022 gain is very large, saturates at high current, but it might be very
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    useful for low current LD2 data
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  - this will be left for a future student looking at LD2 data, we need to be
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    sure to leave an obvious note so this is not forgotten!
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3) BCM4C should not be used at all
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  - less stable than BCM4A and similar gain
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- everything seems sensible so far, we look forward to seeing the Lumi results
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  after the replay, to confirm the calibration and non-linear correction
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Junaid
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PionLT Heep OOP offset results
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- followed Garth's method for KaonLT data
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- get similar offsets
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  - phi_HMS=+2.28mr, phi_SHMS=-0.41mr
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- error bars seem very small, and this could affect the fitting results
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  - GH needs to review his notes and let Junaid know what errors to use
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- GH gave Junaid a set of in-plane Heep offfsets, not yet implemented
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Vijay
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Low Q2 PionLT L/T-separations
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- changed MM lower cut from 0.93 to 0.91, as per last week's feedback
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- showed cointime for all 3 epsilon, and diamond cuts
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- did 15 iterations since last week
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  - cross sections are stable now, which is good, but there are some anomalies
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    in the phi-distributions and Data/MC ratios
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  - most likely, the fitting function needs to be adjusted to get a better fit
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    - e.g. sigT is just a simple linear dependence in t right now
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  - Garth and Vijay need to discuss this early next week
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Richard
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KaonLT L/T-separations
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- concentrating now on Q2=3, W=3.14 data, after it's working better will move
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  next to high stats Q2=2.1 setting, and the lower statistics high Q2 settings
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  will be last
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- tried customizing t-binning a bit more
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  - observes a significant Q2-shift with t-bin, and this influences the
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    parameterization
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  - still using previous equation for t_ave=0.1112+0.0066*log(Q2) used in sigT,
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    will need to revise this for KaonLT kinematics
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- GH thinks that the function for sigT is too complcated, should try a simpler
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  function, as Vijay has done
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- Richard is giving a talk on Meson Structure @ EIC in Nanjing, May 14-17
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  - 25+10 min talk
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  - has old slides to use
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  - needs to circulate a draft soon
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piDelta BSA analysis
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- looking at MM fits again after fixing recon_hcana to use m_pi instead of m_p
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- Q2=5.5 will have one t-bin, -t<1.05, excluding 1.05-1.60 region
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  - gets reasonable phi coverage now
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  - varied t-cut and then looked at MM distribution, to see what t-cut to use
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  - Center setting: all 8 phi-bins are filled
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    - shape study fits generally consistent w/shape of data
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    - data have some fluctuations (statistics?) and the MC smoothly goes
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      through the trend
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  - Right setting: data fill 4 phi-bins, 2 have lower statistics, but MM fit
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    still does a reasonable job
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  - Left setting: data fill the other 4 phi-bins, 2 with low statistics
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    - fit fails for the 2 low stats phi bins also because MM range is limited
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    - however, these bins are filled w/center data, so overall will be OK
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- will redo shape study for other (Q2,W) kinematics
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- Garth: the SIMC resolution tuning was done when recon_hcana had wrong mass
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  - did you rerun your scripts to check that things are OK?
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  - yes, checked that MC did not over-estimate tail for any t-phi bin
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Low Q2 KaonLT analysis
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- looked at Lumi scripts written by Richard
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  - had to do some path tweaks to get them to work in his account
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  - Richard will point Nacer to special Lumi runs done later by Mark Jones &
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    Peter Bosted @ 10.6 GeV
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  - this exercise is mostly for Nacer's overall understanding, next step would
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    be to look more closely at the Heep data taken with 3.8, 4.9 GeV beam
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Hall A/C Summer Workshop discussion
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- it seems they are looking for talks about "publication ready" results
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  - Richard, Vijay, Ali results not yet at this stage, maybe January workshop
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    would be better
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  - Alicia has done further BSA work since January update, and plots she shows
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    should be the same ones as in the paper
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    - Tanja will reply
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    - workshop is July 15-16
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Next Meeting
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- Thur May 9 @ 15:00 Eastern/13:00 Regina
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  - KaonLT will go first
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