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                       Aug 15/24 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
 
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                                  (Notes by Dave and Alicia)
 
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                           Today: PionLT will be discussed first
 
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      DG, Junaid, Nathan, Nacer, Zachary, Alicia, Richard, Ali, Pete
 
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      Junaid
 
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      Showed Heep Em/Pm distributions vs. raster y and x.  
 
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      - After flipping sign on raster y calibration constants, correlation is greatly
 
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        reduced (XEM2 also had to flip the sign).  
 
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      - Still some small remaining correlation.  
 
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        - DG suggests flipping sign on raster x calibration also - might impact
 
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          reconstruction due to "ExtTar" corrections.
 
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      Zachary and Nathan
 
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      Lumi scans from 2021.  
 
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      - Able to look at C and LH2 for 2nd scan, but only LH2 from 1st scan due to
 
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        report output issues.
 
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      - Scan 2:
 
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        - Carbon yields are flat for all quantities (scalers, events w/out tracking,
 
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        - LH2 scalers look "ok", but other qunatities show anti-boiling.  
 
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        - Total live time looks not plausible for some cases 
 
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        - DG suggest just using simple computer live time for 1st pass.
 
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      - Scan 1: LH2 shows similar anti-boiling here.
 
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      Nacer
 
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      Looking at 8.2 GeV Heep data.  
 
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      - Large DATA/SIMC ratio (1.122+/-0.006).  
 
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      - Observed strange shape in HMS yptar distribution in data 
 
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        - excess at larger yptar.  
 
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        - Tried to look at that region to see if there are some strange
 
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          backgrounds.  Interestingly, when just looking at events from radiative
 
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          tail, the yptar distribution looks more reasonable.
 
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      - DG notes that he's seen similar issues in the DIS data from 2022-2023.
 
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        - Suspect matrix element problem (we are using new matrix elements fit in
 
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        - Higher HMS momentum settings that use Jacob's matrix elements look better.
 
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      - DATA/SIMC ratio likely not due to this yptar issue 
 
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        - DG is suspicious of the large dead time from the EDTM. 
 
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      Shows results from his analysis of same Heep data.  
 
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      - Has even large DATA/SIMC ratio (~1.2), but this is likely due to smaller
 
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        3/4 efficiency in SHMS (Richard sees ~92%, whicle Nacer sees ~97%).  
 
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        Nacer's analyses.
 
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      - Richard/Nacer will meet this week to discuss discrepancies between their
 
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        - EDTM LT drops to 90% for the 8.2 GeV run period, otherwise is stable around
 
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      Plots of sigL, sigT, sigLT, sigTT vs -t
 
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        without better understanding the W-dependence (higher order terms may be
 
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        2.95) and W=2.5 (2.32, 2.74)
 
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      - BSA paper still under review
 
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      - No update, writing thesis
 
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      - Thur Aug 22 @ 15:00 Eastern/13:00 Regina
 
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      - KaonLT will go first
 
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