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Garth Huber, 11/15/2024 06:21 PM

 
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                 Nov 15/24 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
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                                (Notes by GH)
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                     Today: KaonLT will be discussed first
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Present
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Regina - Garth Huber, Nathan Heinrich, Alicia Postuma, Ali Usman,
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   Muhammad Junaid, Nacer Hamdi
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JLab - Dave Gaskell
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Virginia - Richard Trotta
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Richard
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KaonLT function fitting update for LT separation
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- looking only a Q2=3.0, W=3.14 data
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- changed t-binning to get more info on t-dependence
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  - for now, 10 bins from 0.2 to 0.4
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  - after the tests, plan to go to 6-7 bins
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  - *NB* GH: t-range 0.2-0.4 is surprisingly narrow, assumes the experimental
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    acceptance (after diamond cuts) is wider than this, encourages to use the
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    full t-range
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- trying a new set of functions for TT
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  - TT=(p13+p14*Gaussian)*sin^2(theta) where the centroid and width of the Gaussian
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    are free parameters
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  - this does a better job of fitting the t-dependence above 0.3, but does not
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    have proper form at t-min when p13.neq.zero
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  - nonetheless, gives lowest chi-square of all functions tried to date, due to
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    better fit for higher -t
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  - shows the extracted t-dependence of TT using this function
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    - *NB* GH: maybe a 4th order polynomial would do a similar job and have
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     better form at low -t?
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Ali
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- making good progress on thesis writing, hoping to give 2nd drafts of chapters
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  to GH soon
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Alicia
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- checked APS author portal for status of BSA paper
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  - reports recently received from 2 referees
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  - a 3rd referee was contacted on Nov 6 after these two reports were received
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- proton absorption MC
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  - hoping to have time to work on this next week
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Nacer
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KaonLT Heep singles
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- offsets were applied incorrectly for singles
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  - offset units issue fixed, but maybe still some ambiguity on correct sign of offset
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  - *NB* will check w/ Junaid on correct implementation in SIMC input file
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- W comparison between Data and MC
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  - Ali's resolution tuning parameter has been used
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  - cut ranges: 0.8<W<1.05
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  - elastic peak comparison looks very good for 3.6-8.4 GeV data, for both peak
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    alignment and width
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  - 10.6 GeV peak is much wider than other energies, data is shifted compared
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    to SIMC
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    - *NB* DG: you will need to apply a shift to either data or MC so the peaks
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      line up correctly before applying the W-cut
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- singles Data/MC yield ratios
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  - HMS ratios consistently above 1 (3.8-8.2 GeV beam energies)
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  - SHMS also consistently >1
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  - DG: very interesting that both Singles and COIN have the same Ratio issue
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    - this greatly reduces the number of possibilities on what is wrong
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    - *NB* one possibility is that the applied boiling correction is too large
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      - applied correction is 8%/100uA from Richard's analysis
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      - see 23-Sept-07 RedMine
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        https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2119
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	https://redmine.jlab.org/attachments/2118
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  - AU: another possibility is the error in Heep parameterization at higher Q2
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    - DG: new high precision Heep cross sections from Hall A have just been
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      published, can compare them to SIMC prediction to see if model is off
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      - *NB* Dave will look more into this
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- Mark's tracking algorithm improvements
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  - Mark sent notes on the new procedure earlier this week
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  - Junaid thinks it will be straightforward to apply the changes, looking into
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  - it
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PionLT Lumi studies
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- plots of LH2 singles Lumi, combined over all settings
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  - results from different settings fall into several categories
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  - HMS: red points suggest anti-boiling
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    - green+black points are consistent with each other and have flat
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      dependence
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  - SHMS: green+black points look reasonably consistent
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    - red points are weird
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    - combined fit (lots of scatter) gives (6.5% +/- 1.1%)/100uA
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  - looking into whether it is justifiable to discard the red points
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  - not good that SHMS and HMS see different dependences for black+green points
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- Coin Lumi analysis using SIDIS+DEMP settings
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  - some outliers that need investigating
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  - with outliers removed, get two clusters of points:
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    - cyan(SIDIS)+yellow(DEMP) -- less boiling (3-4%)
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    - black(DEMP)+green(DEMP)+red(SIDIS) -- more boiling
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    - blue -- strong anti-boiling
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  - still need to investigate rate-dependence, see what is the reason why two
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    different correlations seen
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    - *NB* DG: should confirm that the target fan speed is the same for all of
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      these settings
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Junaid
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- working on PhD committee meeting reports
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- will implement Mark's tracking algorithm next week
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Garth
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- comparing Vijay's Q2=0.38 thesis data to Ackermann Q2=0.35 results
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  - some questions that need to discuss with Vijay when he returns
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  - working on preliminary fit of VGL model to sigL data
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  - outstanding issues:
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    - Vijay was looking at changes to LT,TT parameterizations before he left,
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      trying to get flatter ratios vs phi for higher t-bins
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    - proton absorption correction not yet applied: this will just be a scale
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      factor
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    - systematic uncertainties not yet included in errors
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Next Meeting
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- Thur Nov 21 @ 16:00 Eastern/15:00 Regina
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  - *NOTE* meeting time moved earlier by 30 minutes until early January
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  - PionLT will go first
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