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                       Jan 9/25 PionLT/KaonLT Analysis Meeting Notes
 
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                                      (Notes by GH)
 
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                           Today: PionLT will be discussed first
 
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      Present
 
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      Regina - Garth Huber, Ali Usman, Alicia Postuma, Nathan Heinrich,
 
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         Nacer Hamdi, Vijay Kumar
 
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      Ohio - Julie Roche
 
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      JLab - Dave Gaskell
 
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      Virginia - Richard Trotta
 
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      FIU - Pete Markowitz
 
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      Nathan
 
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      PionLT luminosity studies
 
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      - plots of singles scaler yield vs current and rate
 
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      - correlation with rate is much clearer than vs current
 
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      - HMS scalers give nice straight line vs current
 
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        - ELLT checks done, now get 2.8%/100uA slope for LH2 boiling
 
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      - apply this boiling corr to SHMS, HMS scaler yields and replot vs rate
 
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        - get a slope of 3.8%/MHz, consistent for both HMS and SHMS
 
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        - interestingly, without the LH2 boiling correction, the HMS has a different
 
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          rate dependence due to the lower rates at high current.  When the LH2
 
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          boiling corr is applied, HMS and SHMS look pretty consistent
 
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        - *NB* need to confirm whether 3/4 or ELREAL rate is used on x-axis
 
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      - took difference of global fit slope and individual settings, with statistical
 
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        error removed in quadrature, as an estimate of the systematic uncertainty
 
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        - obtained +/-0.7%/MHz
 
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      - *NB* will apply this rate correction to Carbon Lumi data to confirm there is
 
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        no anti-boiling
 
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      - Dave: this suggests there is a source of DeadTime that we're missing
 
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        - we see it in scaler analysis, so it would have to be in the trigger legs,
 
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          not FADC or CPU
 
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          - most likely culprit would be the 3/4 trigger
 
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          - *NB* Carlos did find some anomalously high DeadTimes, Dave Mack did a
 
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            study in response.  
 
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            Take a look at:
 
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            1. Dave Mack's presentation on explaining the larger than expected dead
 
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               time from Carlos' data:
 
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               https://hallcweb.jlab.org/doc-private/ShowDocument?docid=1063
 
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            2. Casey's application of this calculation:
 
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               https://misportal.jlab.org/ul/publications/downloadFile.cfm?pub_id=20620
 
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               Page 88 or so.
 
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      - Julie: in your plot vs rate, is there any indication of a flat part at low
 
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      - Coin Lumi vs rate and vs current
 
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        - *NB* plotted vs COIN rate, but if the DeadTime is in the trigger leg, it
 
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          needs be the equivalent 3/4 rate integrated over both arms
 
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        - *NB* Richard, Vijay should apply Nathan's rate dep to their Lumi data and
 
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      BSA revisions, PLB vs PRC
 
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      - journal length limits are very different
 
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      - will prepare revisions assuming PLB and then see if can address the referee
 
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        comments in that limit, or if we need PRC length instead
 
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      - found that MM is shifted ~50 MeV compared to SIMC
 
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        - Garth: suggests to start by checking standard.kinematics, since it must be
 
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        https://hallcweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/Kaon_LT_Status_Page#Kaon_LT_Physics_Status_at_Ebeam_.3D_3.8.2F4.9_GeV
 
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      For the rest of the meeting, we reviewed draft presentations by Richard and
 
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      - Thur Jan 16 @ 16:00 Eastern/15:00 Regina
 
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        - we also need to check if people's availability has changed after Jan 16, or
 
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          if we can keep this time until daylight savings time change in March
 
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